newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

TPercy wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Kp is the potential star those thinking jerian could be a star might be mistaken. I'd keep him along the lines of what we have seen in fa. Solid if there is upside from solid fantastic

Why should we be mistaken that Jerian Grant can't be a star?
-He's the second best passer coming out of the draft
-He's a high impact player on BOTH ends of the court
-He has been a leader for all teams he plays for, not to mention like Porzingis, his family breathes basketball
-Great athletcism
- Very good at creating his own offensive and offensive for others
The only thing that held back his draft position, much like your mans Kaminsky was that he was a senior.

We'll have to see how jerian shoots in the nba. He was a porous 3 point shooter in college. Also don't overestimate his speed or athletic ability. He's smart has good size good mentality but I don't see him as a star type in the nba. His best case scenario would be a Derrick Harper which would be great but his downside is a 2 nod stringer who has trouble finishing against nba caliber players and not hitting his outside shot. I thought his pre draft workout that I saw compared to others was excellent

Come on now. You're really gonna say what grant will be before the kid even steps foot on a NBA floor?? You're not Nostradamus so please lets not start telling the future when you don't know the future.

Knixkik wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Our potential success comes down to developing these 2 players. If we are able to develop them into high quality players then everything falls into place.

-Melo-KP-Grant as primary options.
-Quality role players in Lopez, Quinn, Affalo, Galloway.
-Projected 20mil in cap space next off season
-Depending what we do next off season more cap flexibility/space the following.
-Big time players if they see we have talent like a KP & Grant to go with Melo as well as quality role players in place. They will be more interested in coming.

Guys like Lopez & Quinn also are rugged enough protect KP as he develops these next few yrs.

Maintain the cap flexibility to sign a big time player and develop KP & Grant. Our best and only shot at being a contender at the end off all this.

If these guys were ready to contribute at a high level right now than a lineup of

Lopez
Porzingis
Melo
Afflalo
Grant

Would be very interested. It's well balanced and has a ton of talent. But unfortunately you can't rely on that this season. Maybe next season. KP will have to be a 15-17 ppg stretch 4 sooner rather than later and grant could be a very solid pg at the same level as jrue holiday. If we could sign a guy like Conley next summer and KP starts to show some star upside we could be very very good.

The One plus for KP is that his jumper is legit and he's 7'3". Hard to see anyone bothering his jumper if he's able to get just a little space. It's just too high above his head and the release is too quick. KP needs to get the Reggie Miller treatment. You do everything you can to get him open and let it rain. IMO it totally changes a defenses approach when you have shooting and low post scoring. It's gonna be hard for defenses to focus on KP and Jerian with Melo and Afflalo out there too. It's a much more potent starting 5 than we had before.

newyorknewyork wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Kp is the potential star those thinking jerian could be a star might be mistaken. I'd keep him along the lines of what we have seen in fa. Solid if there is upside from solid fantastic

Grant wouldn't need to be a star. As it stands he would be a 3rd option. If we are able to land a big time player with the cap space we will have next yr or the following then he would be moved to 4th option under these circumstances. If he does become a star all the better, Id settle for Defense, Heart, and Unselfishness.

earthmansurfer wrote:I think thinking that Grant can't be a star in this league is short sighted. I'm not saying he will be one, mind you, but the guy is oozing with talent and overflowing with heart and determination on the court.
He is a very athletic guy but not top notch. There are many guys who have other skills other than athleticism that make it. His shot is solid but not his 3pt shot. Hey, that is sort of normal.

He see's the court INCREDIBLY well. Guys are overlooking just how well he does that. When he gets the chance to drive, we will get to see just how well that is.
We don't really have a known #2 on this team so that is up for grabs. I wouldn't be shocked if KP or Grant eventually fall into that role. Lopez is gong to get a lot of touches, but probably is not going to be a go to guy on offense. Grant and Kp, can to a point, create their own shot. Grant can drive and usually pull up and KP can shoot over most guys.

Hey, Pat Riley considered drafting the guy and Phil did, let's have some faith here...

As a guard that can run a team and also score in various ways it's more likely than not that he's going to have an impact. Having Jerian and Galloway is a good tough couple of guards. I like the disposition of those 2. It's gonna only help KP to have guards who can do what they can on both ends. Jerian to KP should be a pretty common expression over the years.