"This website almost unanimously agrees he doesn't put effort into improving his game. I don't agree or disagree with this board's opinion on DWill's effort.

He got better with shooting the 3."

"Derrick is really not as bad as some of you are making him out to be, he's a NBA player that once in a while can swing a game and his 3point shot is improving. Not a bad signing at all for NY."

"As long as the Knicks don't need Williams to score, defend, rebound, hustle, pass, plays physical, or stretch the floor; he'll do ok. "

"Thank you Williams!

AS for the Knick fan, I think you guys will love and hate Williams. Sometimes he shows up and puts up good numbers and highlight reel plays and sometimes he doesn't show up and pretty much puts zeros across the board.

He won't cause issues with players though and always seems to have a smile on his face. He belongs in the NBA, definitely, but I wanted a better rebounding big backing CUZ/JT (when JT was here). If he could rebound and block a couple shots he would have been perfect for the Kings. Alas, he's not what we need at this time so we let him go."

"Oh, come on! There's one thing Derrick does well, and it's sort of "good" scoring, since it's either transition or off-the-ball, but that's roleplaying type, and, you're right, Williams can't do any of the other stuff, support guys need to do well, which makes Derrick a player with close to 0 impact. Too bad none of the contenders signed him to this contract. "

"Goodbye Derrick "the Coke Machine" Williams "

TPercy wrote:"Better. Has found a bit of a niche as a pure open court scorer. Tremendous athlete. Might be getting his 3pt game back a little. But oh my is he soft. Soft and pretty and just about the dunks really. No defense at either position. Not enough quickness at SF, not enough toughness at PF. The rebounding is actually remarkable -- went on a late season streak for us where he grabbed 18 total rebounds over an 11 game stretch while playing 20+ min a night? Just wants no part of the physical work.

Flamboyant flyer, just real questions if he's about winning. As long as you run you'll get your money's worth of highlights though. "

"Just don't expect defense. You can expect him to hit the highlight reels on a regular basis, however. "

"He has a cool hairstyle..... "

TheGame wrote:We would have been better off going after Jordan hill

Jordan Hill aint signing for 5 mil....

Koufus/Biyombo, Wesley Jonhson, could be GREAT additions that would elevate our DEFENSE with their length/athleticism/mobility and VERSATILITY, that we can still sign with the rest of our CAP space and using Cole Aldrich to get the FULL MLE or just under 3m (2year deal on BI ANNUAL EXEMPTION AKA LLE, not sure if we can have BOTH THE LLE and MLE *do not think so though*)

ON TOP OF THAT, GRAB the 3 D LEAGUE TALENTS that I have been asking for MONTHS NOW, along with other steals, possibly to 2-3years
With 2 Guards that could SHOOT and learn off Affalo, another SF/PF, maybe even some Center when teams go small with Benimon

1- Jerrelle Benimon SF, SF/PF, strech 4, maybe a Lamor Odom type player as a triple double threat
2- Jarell Eddie, G/F, a Danny Green type talent on shooting SG/SF
3- Scotty Hopson, G/F, another G/F that can shoot and score/penetrate/facilitate, decent versatile game as well SG/PG

On top of that other BIGS include Thabeet, McGee, Larry Sanders, and even Andray Blatche (at least 3m + which makes that in China)

Then there are also positions to add from our Summer League Roster as well as James Johnson to target in a trade
UFA with the length/athleticism of Utah's high flyer Jeremy Evan's, where Millsap and DeMaRRe CaRRoLL both developed their games, Evan's could break out this season like Carroll did

With the way we utilized our cap space, it would put us in the MIDDLE at best (the worse position to be in, with little draft picks and 0 draft picks next season)
Not sure how many Trade Exemptions we have left either

We grabbed a bunch of ROLE PLAYERS with no STAR impacts with players approaching 30, (a very dangerous age to be as players physically decline)

These moves puts us in HORRIBLE situations to be in this upcoming season and hurts our salary flexiblity for the next 2 seasons
While I would much rather have looked for CAP FRIENDLY contracts instead, if not find the next and risk compeltely striking out rather than overpaying for ROLE PLAYERS

Then with so many role players that are overpaid already, do we sign more role players that have experience in the triangle like Lou Amundson, Lance Thomas, Jason Smith (for the vet min, if we do sign them for a 1year vet deal, we would have early bird rights for them next that would allow us to have the FULL MLE to utilize next summer, which would be upwards of 7-8m

Then with the rest of our cap do we use it to sign/resign players like Shved or Lin, along with AB?
Not only did we overpay for Lopez but we overpaid for Derrick Williams
Now I like Derrick Williams for a LOW contract, for the VET MIN or 2.5m at BEST if especially with a player option, HE HAS NO LEVERAGE
Instead of using our roster that could give players an incentive to sign for LESS, with our lack of talent, we used it to overpay for talents that could hurt us 2years down the road with negative trade value players

I question if he even actually had a plan that he said TO BEGIN WITH
Signing Affalo FIRST, screwed up ANY POSSIBLE CHANCE to BUILD 2 TOP TEIR/2nd Tier Talents like Monroe/LA and Jordan, along with RFA's as well
We should have been able to get multiple contracts for a TEAM OPTION that would have more future trade value's as well

Optimism from some of these UK posters makes me wonder if they are posters that work for MSG with these HORRIBLE ways we failed to build a roster/without future TEAM OPTIONS that could become trade bait
We did NOT add in VALUE players on TOP OF IT

knicks1248 wrote:This is a suspect signing, especially with a coach like fisher, and still no leadership. Need to put some veterans around this kid

Are you paying attention or trying?

Afflalo, Jose, RoLo with Lance, Admoundson as reals pros too if they are kept. Grant Gallo are kids but they have good work ethics.

All while Wesley Johnson is the BETTER player and more versatile talent, a team mate of Williams
I think Johnson and Koufous are the 2 best talents left that we could use, both of which are UFA's and are better than some of the acquisitions we signed and overpayed for