holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Uptown wrote:I don't necessarily disagree about perhaps moving him, but he may have been misrepresented Isola and the likes...While their reports say, people around Melo didn't like the pick, Melo says out of his on mouth (or his own keyboard) that he thought the Zinger was a steal and he "Can't wait to play with him."

It doesn't have anything to do with message boards non sense..If folks get caught up in that stuff, more power to them..If you are building a Championship you have to be all in..Phil is hedging right now..He brought in a kid that can't help Melo if a team was to be built around him...If this kid is a few years away then do what Philly is doing..Forget about free agents and add young pieces and picks..You can't built two parallel teams...

We weren't winning a championship with either mudiay or Winslow and if anyone thinks we were ur foolin yourself this is a multi year process

The fact remains that you can't build two teams..One for today and one for five years from now...

whatever team is going to be assembled here with melo involved IS NOT GOING TO WIN THE TITLE. melo gets the money he wanted and now he gets team he deserves. your hysteria is merely misdirection.

you are as compartmentalized as melo is.

StarksEwing1 wrote:Melo is starting to remind me of marbury. Both terrific offensive talents with limitations in the other areas. Both havent been successful in postseason. Id love to trade but that contract might be tough to move

The cap is exploding next season. $20 million per will probably be the max contract for guys coming off their rookie deals. Melo's money will be peanuts, relatively speaking.

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Melo is starting to remind me of marbury. Both terrific offensive talents with limitations in the other areas. Both havent been successful in postseason. Id love to trade but that contract might be tough to move

The cap is exploding next season. $20 million per will probably be the max contract for guys coming off their rookie deals. Melo's money will be peanuts, relatively speaking.

Would this make him easier to trade, then?

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Melo is starting to remind me of marbury. Both terrific offensive talents with limitations in the other areas. Both havent been successful in postseason. Id love to trade but that contract might be tough to move

The cap is exploding next season. $20 million per will probably be the max contract for guys coming off their rookie deals. Melo's money will be peanuts, relatively speaking.

Even by the largest estimates of cap increase, Melo would still be almost 1/4th of the cap. That's a lot to give 1/15th of the roster, especially in his 15th and 16th years in the league.

That's still better than a third of the cap, which his salary currently is.

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

misterearl wrote:

holfresh wrote:
One thing is that you are not being fair saying catering to Melo's whims..
Phil made a choice..Be a man and say we are moving on..Melo lets help get you to a contender...No need to disparage Melo..

holfresh - not trying to disparage Melo in any way. He is who he is. This is not about his supreme athletic ability. This is about the sideshow that detracts from a young team finding its own voice, without the background noise.

It may sound harsh or unfair, but is is an unflinching look at how this franchise needs to clear the air and how Phil MUST fulfill his stated mission to "change the culture."

Trade Melo now.

You and I have zero proof in terms of what was said or who said it..None..The sideshow was created by the media..If you are pointing fingers without any proof, it's irresponsible...If you want to move on then just do so...Don't make up excuses...

Then he should have stepped up and said something. Guilt by silence.

His lack of reaction or denial is more than telling, IMO. At the very least he would have one of his mouthpieces deny what was "allegedly" said.

Isola and other reporters are not going to put out something like this without a confirming source,unless, of course, Anthony made the comments directly to a reporter. You do understand this, don't you. The way things are done now, they could lose their bloody jobs.

Anthony's lawyers would have already filed a libel suit if there was no truth...give me a break.

You have to deal with the consequences one way or the other.

A man would have stepped up and spoke to the allegations directly...but Anthony has not done this, has he.

So he should throw away hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers just to make you feel better about a non-issue?

And for the record he went on the record to admonish people for claiming he has been anything other than supportive of the pick.

TripleThreat wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Would this make him easier to trade, then?

The only practical trade scenario where Melo would even consider waiving his No Trade Clause would be to the Lakers.

The Knicks would get maybe 10-15 cents on the dollar in any Melo trade. Melo might be a low IQ selfish diva chucker, but his agent is at least smart enough to make sure Melo doesn't go to a completely gutted team.

If the Knicks could get Julius Randle straight up, that would be a massive win. A practical trade would likely be less than that though value wise.

Given he had surgery and ended his season, the soonest he could move is at the deadline, and likely only after a protracted war in the press with Phil Jackson, in which Melo would lose. I'm not sure even CAA and Leon Rose can protect Melo from Zen Master in the press. It's the ONE THING that Phil Jackson does well over every other GM in the league - he can manipulate the press like no one else.

It's unlikely to happen at all.

The soonest it could happen would likely be the trade deadline this season.

Knick's fans have to be realistic and understand you are looking at 10-15 cents on the dollar in any kind of return. The NTC is just too much leverage to use against the Knicks.

I've been saying Melo is a problem for a long time now, sort of interesting the pro Melo contingent on the board are suddenly so silent when the groundswell has started to get him off the roster.

I think the Heat would willingly give up Justise Winslow for Melo and I'd happily oblige. They've already identified $10 million in contracts they don't want (Mario Chalmers and Chris Andersen) to grease the wheels on a trade. $7 million more (Loul Deng) and they'd have a deal.

Personally, I'd do that in a heartbeat and then use our cap space to acquire veterans on one year deals that can help our young guys be professionals (looking at you, David Lee).

NardDogNation wrote:

Uptown wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

misterearl wrote:

holfresh wrote:
One thing is that you are not being fair saying catering to Melo's whims..
Phil made a choice..Be a man and say we are moving on..Melo lets help get you to a contender...No need to disparage Melo..

holfresh - not trying to disparage Melo in any way. He is who he is. This is not about his supreme athletic ability. This is about the sideshow that detracts from a young team finding its own voice, without the background noise.

It may sound harsh or unfair, but is is an unflinching look at how this franchise needs to clear the air and how Phil MUST fulfill his stated mission to "change the culture."

Trade Melo now.

You and I have zero proof in terms of what was said or who said it..None..The sideshow was created by the media..If you are pointing fingers without any proof, it's irresponsible...If you want to move on then just do so...Don't make up excuses...

Then he should have stepped up and said something. Guilt by silence.

His lack of reaction or denial is more than telling, IMO. At the very least he would have one of his mouthpieces deny what was "allegedly" said.

Isola and other reporters are not going to put out something like this without a confirming source,unless, of course, Anthony made the comments directly to a reporter. You do understand this, don't you. The way things are done now, they could lose their bloody jobs.

Anthony's lawyers would have already filed a libel suit if there was no truth...give me a break.

You have to deal with the consequences one way or the other.

A man would have stepped up and spoke to the allegations directly...but Anthony has not done this, has he.

Actually, he has....on his Instagram page, he said, Kris is a "Steal" and he "Can't wait to play with him." Those were his words not Isola or Screamin' A or People around him....

+1. It seems that people actively try to make stuff up to hate Melo for.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Uptown wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

misterearl wrote:

holfresh wrote:
One thing is that you are not being fair saying catering to Melo's whims..
Phil made a choice..Be a man and say we are moving on..Melo lets help get you to a contender...No need to disparage Melo..

holfresh - not trying to disparage Melo in any way. He is who he is. This is not about his supreme athletic ability. This is about the sideshow that detracts from a young team finding its own voice, without the background noise.

It may sound harsh or unfair, but is is an unflinching look at how this franchise needs to clear the air and how Phil MUST fulfill his stated mission to "change the culture."

Trade Melo now.

You and I have zero proof in terms of what was said or who said it..None..The sideshow was created by the media..If you are pointing fingers without any proof, it's irresponsible...If you want to move on then just do so...Don't make up excuses...

Then he should have stepped up and said something. Guilt by silence.

His lack of reaction or denial is more than telling, IMO. At the very least he would have one of his mouthpieces deny what was "allegedly" said.

Isola and other reporters are not going to put out something like this without a confirming source,unless, of course, Anthony made the comments directly to a reporter. You do understand this, don't you. The way things are done now, they could lose their bloody jobs.

Anthony's lawyers would have already filed a libel suit if there was no truth...give me a break.

You have to deal with the consequences one way or the other.

A man would have stepped up and spoke to the allegations directly...but Anthony has not done this, has he.

Actually, he has....on his Instagram page, he said, Kris is a "Steal" and he "Can't wait to play with him." Those were his words not Isola or Screamin' A or People around him....

+1. It seems that people actively try to make stuff up to hate Melo for.

i said previously that i dont care if he said it or not. However he should stay off the social media and just focus on basketball. If he buys in to what phil is doing thats good but if not then id be more than happy to stockpile assets in a trade

I wasn't talking about you. You routinely seem to have a grounded take on things.