crzymdups wrote:Frank Isola is posting stuff that Melo was not happy about how the draft went down. He apparently called THjr to let him know. We should've just let Melo go and done a full rebuild.

But I am glad Phil is not letting Melo the GM make decisions. That was definitely one of my worries.

Exactly

mreinman wrote:

wargames wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Frank Isola is posting stuff that Melo was not happy about how the draft went down. He apparently called THjr to let him know. We should've just let Melo go and done a full rebuild.

But I am glad Phil is not letting Melo the GM make decisions. That was definitely one of my worries.

I don't think anyone would take Melo at this point

Teams would still take Melo, he was an All star last year and still has a few more years of high production left. The real question is would Melo waive his no trade clause to go to those teams? Hell honestly if he asked to be traded it might be a blessing in disguise. The knicks would get a pretty damn good haul for him.

don't think they would get that much for him. If they would, they would dump him in a heart beat (though Dolan will not allow it because how much money he makes for MSG, but if he starts/continues to stink, dolan would dump him in a ny second)

They can't dump him in a heart beat he has a no trade clause. They wouldn't even seriously look into trading for him unless he fell off or he himself asks for a trade because if he said no they would be stuck with him and it would poison the relationship. If he asks for a trade now and the knicks make it known he is available they'll get offers from probaly 20 teams at the minimum. The issue is would Melo be willing to go to the team.

Lets see what happens

1- Houston
2- Bulls
3- Cleveland

4- Clippers
5- Miami

- Lakers
- Bobcats (he can build his Jordan brand with Jordan) Bobcats have a very solid roster this year if AL Jefferson can come back healthy with Kemba/Battum/MKG
- Mavs
- Spurs
- GS
- OKC
- TWOLVES *they have a lot of YOUNG TALENT and it sounds as a joke but the youth and potential of TWOLVES would allow them to contend with many high potential YOUNG TALENTS*

Sure there are others, but those are less likely like

Bucks
Suns
Detroit
Kings

Portland
Magic

Philly, IF LEBRON wants to go to Philly with CA and with 55 picks to use to improve, some in trades, with many young talents and possible TOP/2nd TIER PF/C's
Probably could also FIT another player such as WADE as well, not a MAX for Wade but about 12-15m, they would have to unload some salaries like Embid, Wroten, though and they have the assets to do so

PG Lebron
SG maybe even Covington *WHICH I WANT BACK, along with MANY MANY MANY DRAFT PICKS*
CA
Noel
OK4 *TAKING OK4, COVINGTON and MANY DRAFT PICKS, Phil Jackson owns CA despite his no trade clause*

Still like Tony Wroten too, could unite Grant with his brother or cousin?

Wroten
Covington
OK4

ALL UNPROTECTED PICKS PERIOD as well
2 1st rounders, 8 future 2nd rounders
If they say no for OK4, I want 10 1st rounders LOL

Lebron and CA are very good friends, basically ANYWHERE TOGETHER they go, they could be contenders

Portland can be as well with Lilliard being their BIG 3, PG/SG to spread the floor as CA and Lebron would allow Lilliard to shoot MANY WIDE OPEN 3pters
With Lebron being able to POST UP or PENETRATE with the shooters they have and a stretch 4/5 in Meyers Leanard

So basically teams that have the ability to sign Lebron and TRADE for CA could unite them together to contend

Teams with BOLD are teams that have NO STATE TAX so he can earn much more money with the 15% trade kicker as well

DrAlphaeus wrote:With his business interests in Puerto Rico, I wonder about Florida, particularly Miami.

Miami does have a 2016 1-10 protected pick next year.

5 mins ago - via New York Post

Carmelo Anthony upset with Phil Jackson?

Carmelo Anthony feels “completely hoodwinked and betrayed by Phil Jackson’’ after the Knicks traded Tim Hardaway Jr. and selected European project Kristaps Porzingis with the fourth pick of the draft, according to a radio report by ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith.
Draft, Phil Jackson, Stephen A. Smith, Trade, Carmelo Anthony, Kristaps Porzingis, Tim Hardaway, Tim Hardaway Jr, New York Knicks
5 mins ago - via New York Post

The report cited sources close to Anthony, who is currently in Las Vegas for his wife La La’s birthday. “All they said was he’s furious, he’s livid, he feels completely hoodwinked and betrayed by Phil Jackson,’’ Smith said. “He feels like he was lied to and sold a bill of goods. He’s willing to concede he wanted his money, but he didn’t know it would be like this and this bad. He can’t believe the second season for Phil Jackson he has to look forward to being worse than last season was.”
Las Vegas, Phil Jackson, New York Knicks

5 mins ago - via New York Post

Anthony’s frustration with the Jackson regime would be nothing new. The Post reported in December he was so depressed about the team’s losing record, he would consider waiving his no-trade clause if the Zen Master came up with a deal. After the season, Anthony admitted he had “second-guessed’’ his decision to resign with the Knicks as a free agent before Jackson put him at ease during a January dinner in London.
Free Agency, Trade, New York Knicks

5 mins ago - via Twitter JaredZwerling

Jared Zwerling: Source: Clips & Mavs front-runners for D. Jordan. To meet w/ Clips, Mavs, Lakers, Bucks & possibly NYK. Mavs = possible sign-&-trade option.
Free Agency, Trade, DeAndre Jordan, Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Clippers, Los Angeles Lakers, Milwaukee Bucks, New York Knicks
This rumor is part of a storyline: 1 more rumor

2 hours ago - via RealGM

The Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks have also been long known as interested teams for Harris.
Free Agency, Tobias Harris, Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks, Orlando Magic

3 hours ago - via Twitter IanBegley

Ian Begley: Derek Fisher on #Knicks free agency: “I don’t think it’s any secret that we need some size up front.” Says that will be a focus for NYK.
Free Agency, Derek Fisher, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter NotoriousOHM

Ohm Youngmisuk: Phil on LA taking D’Angelo over Okafor: “I think it is a sign that they are looking to their conference (and style of play).”
Draft, Phil Jackson, D'Angelo Russell, Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter NotoriousOHM

Ohm Youngmisuk: Phil also says Lakers probably “took out the tape measure” on Okafor’s height and thinks Lakers “made a fine choice” with D’Angelo
Draft, Phil Jackson, D'Angelo Russell, Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter FisolaNYDN

Frank Isola: Carmelo, according to source, called Tim Hardaway Jr. late Thursday to express his displeasure with Phil Jackson’s draft night moves. Oh boy
Draft, Phil Jackson, Trade, Carmelo Anthony, Jerian Grant, Kristaps Porzingis, Tim Hardaway Jr, Atlanta Hawks, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter FisolaNYDN

Frank Isola: Carmelo feels Phil needs to make moves that can help immediately. “He said, ‘we have to wait three years for this guy?'” Knick source claims
Draft, Phil Jackson, Carmelo Anthony, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter ScottCacciola

Scott Cacciola: Phil says, “Carmelo’s always on my mind.” But emphasizes that he also needs to do what is best for the franchise long-term.
Draft, Phil Jackson, Carmelo Anthony, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter IanBegley

Ian Begley: #Knicks president Phil Jackson said adviser Clarence Gaines saw Porzingis over the winter and texted Phil that he had to draft him.
Clarence Gaines, Draft, Phil Jackson, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter HerringWSJ

Chris Herring: Phil: Top scout Clarence Gaines suggested to him that Porzingis presents a “once in a lifetime” opportunity in terms of how talented he is
Clarence Gaines, Draft, Phil Jackson, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter HerringWSJ
Chris Herring: Asked if Porzingis is starter’s material, Fisher says, “You don’t get guaranteed playing time in June.” But says he was picked for a reason.
Draft, Derek Fisher, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter IanBegley

Ian Begley: #Knicks Phil Jackson believes Porzingis should help create space on the for Carmelo to operate because he’s a threat as a shooter.
Draft, Phil Jackson, Carmelo Anthony, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter AdamZagoria

Adam Zagoria: Mitch Kupchak on #Knicks’ Porzingis: ‘We know him very well & he’s gifted in a lot of ways. He’s a legit 7-1, very tough competitor,loves to
Draft, Mitch Kupchak, Kristaps Porzingis, Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter IanBegley

Ian Begley: #Knicks Phil Jackson says there were “DNA” considerations for drafting Jerian Grant. His uncle is Horace Grant, ex-Bull who played for Phil.
Draft, Phil Jackson, Horace Grant, Jerian Grant, New York Knicks

3 hours ago - via Twitter IanBegley

Ian Begley: #Knicks Phil Jackson, asked about the triangle and Jerian Grant, jokes that “I think they use squares at Notre Dame.”
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3 hours ago - via Twitter HerringWSJ

Chris Herring: Fisher says he’s going to coach the summer league team again this year
Coaching, Summer League, Derek Fisher, New York Knicks

4 hours ago - via Twitter IanBegley

Ian Begley: Hardaway Jr. was at Clyde Frazier’s restaurant w/#Knicks fans when he got the trade call. Carmelo was among 1st to contact him afterward.
Trade, Tim Hardaway Jr, Atlanta Hawks, New York Knicks

4 hours ago - via Twitter SpearsNBAYahoo

http://wpid-i_50_74_77_kristaps_porzingis.jpg

Marc J. Spears: The Knicks told forward Kristaps Porzingis prior to the draft that they planned to select him with the 4th pick, a source told Yahoo Sports.
Draft, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

4 hours ago - via Bergen Record

“It’s in my hands,” Porzingis said. “They’re booing me because maybe they don’t know me or they don’t want a European on their team. It’s in my hands to make those booing fans into applauding fans and cheer for me.”
Draft, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

4 hours ago - via Yahoo! Sports

Derrick Byars believes Porzingis will get the last laugh. “Hearing the boos made me feel like they have no idea that they’re getting a hell of a player,” said Byars, who used to play for the Miami Heat and San Antonio Spurs. “He has potential to be the best talent from this draft when all is said and done. I knew there would be some boos because of fears of European busts. It’s near New York City. I’m sure they wanted Emmanuel Mudiay or Justise Winslow or a name that they were familiar with.
Draft, Derrick Byars, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

7 hours ago - via New York Post

The Knicks sent two second-round picks for the Sixers’ 35th pick and took 6-11 center Guillermo Hernangomez, who will stay in Europe, where he plays for the same Seville team Porzingis did.
Draft, Willy Hernangomez, New York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers

15 hours ago - via Twitter ScottCacciola

Scott Cacciola: Source says the Knicks acquired Willy Hernangomez for two future second-round picks. #willy
Draft, Trade, Willy Hernangomez, New York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers

15 hours ago - via Twitter StevePopper

Steve Popper: Knicks acquire Sixers 2nd round pick – Willy Hernangomez, who played in Spain – as a draft and stash player.
Draft, Sevilla, Spain, Trade, Willy Hernangomez, New York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers

15 hours ago - via Twitter AdamZagoria

Adam Zagoria: Guillermo Hernangomez won’t play for the Knicks this year, source confirms.
Draft, Sevilla, Spain, Trade, Willy Hernangomez, New York Knicks, Philadelphia 76ers

15 hours ago - via Twitter chadfordinsider
Chad Ford: Willy Hernangomez was teammates with Kris Porzingis. Scouts got lots of looks looking at Zinger. Reminds me of Zaza Pachulia.
Sevilla, Spain, Kristaps Porzingis, Willy Hernangomez, New York Knicks

16 hours ago - via Twitter CVivlamoreAJC

Chris Vivlamore: CMB says Hawks have had eye on Hardaway for some time.
Mike Budenholzer, Trade, Tim Hardaway Jr, Atlanta Hawks, New York Knicks

16 hours ago - via Twitter IanBegley

Ian Begley: Have to wonder how the Porzingis pick impacts Knicks reported interest in Greg Monroe. A Melo-Porzingis front line could use a plus-defender
Free Agency, Greg Monroe, Kristaps Porzingis, Detroit Pistons, New York Knicks

16 hours ago - via Twitter NotoriousOHM

Ohm Youngmisuk: Jerian Grant says he will speak to his uncle Horace about Horace’s experiences playing for Phil and in triangle
Phil Jackson, Horace Grant, Jerian Grant, New York Knicks

16 hours ago - via Twitter KBergCBS

Ken Berger: Phil on Porzingis: “The risk is there, but the reward is there, too.”
Draft, Phil Jackson, Kristaps Porzingis, New York Knicks

Love this:

“It’s in my hands,” Porzingis said. “They’re booing me because maybe they don’t know me or they don’t want a European on their team. It’s in my hands to make those booing fans into applauding fans and cheer for me.”

Hearing that right away was music to my ears. Guy is already a gym rat

franco12 wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Frank Isola is posting stuff that Melo was not happy about how the draft went down. He apparently called THjr to let him know. We should've just let Melo go and done a full rebuild.

But I am glad Phil is not letting Melo the GM make decisions. That was definitely one of my worries.

I don't think anyone would take Melo at this point

The Cavs when Love walks in FA

I think Cleveland is perfect. Maybe we can get Mozgov back?!?

S&T Love, Melo - maybe a third team as I'm not crazy about Love? Is that even feasible.

Love wouldn't have to be a part of it. He could simply walk in FA. From what I gather, free agents dont get that extra year in sign and trades anymore so the incentive to do them isn't as large. But in the case of this hypotherical trade he'd probably have to be part of it to match Melo's salary. Love for Melo would be fantastic IMO, but I doubt it'd happen. I dont think Love has any interest in coming to a lottery team. But it could also be a multi-team trade with Love going somewhere else, sure.

Why do this crap on one of the best nights for the franchise and right before Free Agency when we need to show a united front in order to convince Free Agents to come here. This is an act of sabotage in terms of free agency. There's almost no chance you can sign good players if you are having an internal war with your team's best player. This is HORRIBLE timing. Melo better fix this right now.

franco12 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I don't think Melo gets traded this off-season.

I think he'll make a go of it in 2015-6 season and then maybe ask for a trade the following year if it seems like the Knicks aren't going to be contenders.

I think Phil will help Melo mellow out. Phil has the right sorts of pharmaceuticals to make this happen.

Plus- there are so many teams with cap room after this season - I agree, if Melo goes - either because we want him & talk him into it, or he does- its not this year, its next year.

And I would say remote chance at this deadline if we are sucking horrible, I could maybe see a deal happen.

Man we need Melo to fix this and make a public statement cuz we can't get Free Agents to come here with an open war going on. That's the more important factor.