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NYKBocker
Posts: 38420 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
6/26/2015 1:50 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:mreinman wrote:I really like this guy and believe that he can be a solid rotation player in the triangle. I see Scola in his game as well. Except Willy is more physical. |
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
6/26/2015 1:56 PM
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:In a perfect world GH is the andrew Bynum to Kristaps, Pau Gasol. Really, He reminds me of a faster Marc Gasol. The dude really runs the floor well it seems. I'm talking about when Gasol entered the league not Gasol now. People forget where players started from sometimes. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/26/2015 1:59 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:In a perfect world GH is the andrew Bynum to Kristaps, Pau Gasol. Really, He reminds me of a faster Marc Gasol. The dude really runs the floor well it seems. Thank you. That's all I was saying too. We know he's not as developed as Marc is now. |
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
6/26/2015 2:09 PM
nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:In a perfect world GH is the andrew Bynum to Kristaps, Pau Gasol. Really, He reminds me of a faster Marc Gasol. The dude really runs the floor well it seems. Also, Marc had a better feel for the game and could handle slightly better. He too came in at 22 y/o the same age GH will be when he comes over next year. |
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LivingLegend
Posts: 25763 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
6/26/2015 2:20 PM
Saw someone compared him to ZaZa which I take as a compliment.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/26/2015 2:22 PM
LivingLegend wrote:Saw someone compared him to ZaZa which I take as a compliment. I think he's got way more actual skill than Za Za. Yeah he's physical but he's not just a big lug. He actually has come skills. |
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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
6/28/2015 4:42 AM
Guillermo won't be coming over till 2016/2017 it looks like:
Hernangomez’s buyout is too hefty so he will stay one more season. Porzingis said they communicate often and was excited to hear of the selection. http://nypost.com/2015/06/27/porzingis-will-have-a-buddy-on-the-knicks-just-not-next-season/ The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30169 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
6/28/2015 8:18 AM
NardDogNation wrote:When was Willy projected to go in the draft? I don't mind him but I think that BPA is always the say to go. Even if it's a talent that doesn't fit your culture, you can always get utility via a trade for additional assets. I like what I see from Willy but I'm not sure if he's better value (or fit for that matter) than Rakeem Christmas who looks like a sane-Larry Sanders clone. Week before the draft he was the 25th pick in NBADraft.nets mock draft. I remember clicking on the profile as he came out nowhere and into the first round. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
6/28/2015 9:56 AM
More on Willy,
Matt Kamalsky of draftexpress.com says: “Standing 6’11 with a 7’1.5 wingspan and a 255-pound frame, Hernangomez has nice size for a center. He’s not a particularly explosive athlete, but moves fairly well for his size and has plenty of potential to continue getting stronger. Hernangomez’s physical profile, coupled with his budding offensive skill level makes him a serviceable, fairly well-rounded offensive center, even if he still has plenty of room to grow. Half of Hernangomez’s possessions come from a balanced diet of post ups and rolls to rim, with another significant portion of his offensive production coming from cuts and put backs. He was the only player in the ACB to use 80 total possessions in both situations according to Synergy Sports Technology—evidence of how his ability to exploit his size and mobility helped him on the offensive end.” http://philadunkia.com/?p=13886&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=draft15-go-big-or-go-home I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
6/28/2015 1:10 PM
In 3-4 years he will be a fan favorite. Not a star, but the kind of guy who is going to be in the mix all the time.
You see the photo of him with K. Martin and you see an extremely youthful look- he has some definition, but he looks young for his age.
He already does the P&R stuff, but he has a back to the basket game, too.
M. Gasol has carved out a nice career with skills, brains and average athletic ability. He might be the model for Willie to emulate. Anthony called KP a "steal," and many of us have said the same about Grant, but maybe Hernangomez eventually becomes the steal from this draft. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
6/28/2015 1:45 PM
NardDogNation wrote:When was Willy projected to go in the draft? I don't mind him but I think that BPA is always the say to go. Even if it's a talent that doesn't fit your culture, you can always get utility via a trade for additional assets. I like what I see from Willy but I'm not sure if he's better value (or fit for that matter) than Rakeem Christmas who looks like a sane-Larry Sanders clone. Doesn't that contradict your position against drafting the Zingatron? According to most draft boards he was top 5, what then is your issue against him? I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
6/28/2015 2:20 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:NardDogNation wrote:When was Willy projected to go in the draft? I don't mind him but I think that BPA is always the say to go. Even if it's a talent that doesn't fit your culture, you can always get utility via a trade for additional assets. I like what I see from Willy but I'm not sure if he's better value (or fit for that matter) than Rakeem Christmas who looks like a sane-Larry Sanders clone. There’s no real surprise here. That said, multiple NBA scouts who have spoken with TheKnicksBlog.com and SNY.tv have said that if Hernangomez were guaranteed to come over this coming season, there’s no doubt he would have been a first round pick. Now this was something I had not heard before. So you might make a case that we had 3 #1s, this year, or that when he comes over next year, with more strength and experience, it will as if we are getting a 20-30 1st. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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dacash
Posts: 21141 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 10/17/2006 Member: #1179 |
6/28/2015 2:51 PM
http://prospectsforthenbadraft.blogspot.com/2015/04/scouting-kristaps-porzingis-and.html
hope it works scouting report for both players before draft good read |
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
6/28/2015 3:01 PM LAST EDITED: 6/28/2015 3:05 PM
dacash wrote:http://prospectsforthenbadraft.blogspot.com/2015/04/scouting-kristaps-porzingis-and.html EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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blkexec
Posts: 28347 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
6/28/2015 10:25 PM
Hes not a scorer like him but he moves around the court like luis scola. Hes doesnt play above the rim but hes affective. Typical backup center you would see on the 90s bulls. Phil was a roll player himself so he knows how to fill the bench with reliable talent. Plus he gives KP a buddy to lean on while in ny. Phik loves those win....win picks.
And for the record i said this b4....picking 4th might be a blessing in disguise. KP has the potential to be more impactful to his team overall in multiple categories than the guys picked ahead of him. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
6/28/2015 11:27 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:In 3-4 years he will be a fan favorite. Not a star, but the kind of guy who is going to be in the mix all the time. He will be Kurt Thomas on offense I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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H1AND1
Posts: 21747 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/9/2013 Member: #5648 |
6/29/2015 1:18 AM
NardDogNation wrote:When was Willy projected to go in the draft? I don't mind him but I think that BPA is always the say to go. Even if it's a talent that doesn't fit your culture, you can always get utility via a trade for additional assets. I like what I see from Willy but I'm not sure if he's better value (or fit for that matter) than Rakeem Christmas who looks like a sane-Larry Sanders clone. BPA on draft night is subjective. Every team has a different opinion. |
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
6/29/2015 2:08 AM
H1AND1 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:When was Willy projected to go in the draft? I don't mind him but I think that BPA is always the say to go. Even if it's a talent that doesn't fit your culture, you can always get utility via a trade for additional assets. I like what I see from Willy but I'm not sure if he's better value (or fit for that matter) than Rakeem Christmas who looks like a sane-Larry Sanders clone. (Ex-Knicks scout Tim) Shea also commended Jackson on trading for the rights to 6-11 center Guillermo Hernangomez, 21, who will spend one more season in Spain, likely shifting from Sevilla to Real Madrid. The Knicks purchased the Sixers’ 35th pick for cash and their 2020 and 2021 picks. “His father was a player. His mother was a national team player, his brother was a player,’’ said Shea, who mentors Spanish coaches. “He’s strong, loves playing, bangs inside. Not a great athlete, not quick, but he’s a banger. He gets fouled a lot. An important statistic in the [Spanish league] is how many times you commit fouls to get fouled. It’s double the times he gets fouled.’’ EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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