s3231 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Did Kiki Draft Skita?

Haha he did (Kiki worked with Dirk in Dallas and probably saw some similarities).....I wanted to bring that up to him but wasn't able to ask question as time ran out. Kiki did fleece us though in that draft and took Nene so he kind of made up for it a little bit.

If I remember correctly, Skita was also highly recommended by D'Antoni who had worked for the Nuggets either at that time or right before it.

nixluva wrote:

s3231 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Did Kiki Draft Skita?

Haha he did (Kiki worked with Dirk in Dallas and probably saw some similarities).....I wanted to bring that up to him but wasn't able to ask question as time ran out. Kiki did fleece us though in that draft and took Nene so he kind of made up for it a little bit.

If I remember correctly, Skita was also highly recommended by D'Antoni who had worked for the Nuggets either at that time or right before it.

To my knowledge MDA was never in a position of authority in Denver. He had a cup of coffee as a coach. 50 games in one season.

Before he coached, he was actually Denver's director of player personnel and he was familiar with Skita from his time in Europe. I remember reading it in a book about the Suns and found below story that supports it. It's crazy to think about....I just think of D'Antoni as a coach now.

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2013/9/5/4692668/nba-most-hyped-nikoloz-tskitishvilis-dramatic-disappointment

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Nalod wrote:Arvydas Sabonis at 19 was skinny too!!!!
In his prime before he got to the NBA he amazing! His high post passing and ability to shoot the 3 at 7-3 was incredible and it opened things up. He was much better than in prime Pau.
Im not saying Kris can be this guy, but he has potential to be special.

if we got Sabonis I'm going to feel like a moron later. Zingy better hit that gym starting today

Yea Sabonis wasn't exactly good.

Are you insane? How long have you been watching NBA games? Sabonis was better than "good".

No. I'm mentally still capable.

I've been watching NBA basketball since 1991.

His career numbers are 12 and 7 in 7 NBA seasons.

Doesn't take a lot to impress you I guess?

Gotta do your homework on this guy. He was 31 when he got here and played until 38, avged 24 min a game and had bad knees.
He killed David Robinson in the olympics. This guy was amazing. Forget the stats, watch some video and some old russian team stuff.
He is in the HOF.
He would have been an MVP type here. This guy was the real deal.

Im sure your not easliy convinced but given his condition, age and miles on those knees It was a pleasure seeing him play. Was a great passer!!!!

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Nalod wrote:Arvydas Sabonis at 19 was skinny too!!!!
In his prime before he got to the NBA he amazing! His high post passing and ability to shoot the 3 at 7-3 was incredible and it opened things up. He was much better than in prime Pau.
Im not saying Kris can be this guy, but he has potential to be special.

if we got Sabonis I'm going to feel like a moron later. Zingy better hit that gym starting today

Yea Sabonis wasn't exactly good.

Are you insane? How long have you been watching NBA games? Sabonis was better than "good".

No. I'm mentally still capable.

I've been watching NBA basketball since 1991.

His career numbers are 12 and 7 in 7 NBA seasons.

Doesn't take a lot to impress you I guess?

He started playing here at age 31, at a time when his body was deteriorating. He still managed to play until 38.

Think they put a guy with the stats you quoted into the Hall of Fame if that was all he ever did?

I won't say that you are insane, but you are uninformed.

WaltLongmire wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Nalod wrote:Arvydas Sabonis at 19 was skinny too!!!!
In his prime before he got to the NBA he amazing! His high post passing and ability to shoot the 3 at 7-3 was incredible and it opened things up. He was much better than in prime Pau.
Im not saying Kris can be this guy, but he has potential to be special.

if we got Sabonis I'm going to feel like a moron later. Zingy better hit that gym starting today

Yea Sabonis wasn't exactly good.

Are you insane? How long have you been watching NBA games? Sabonis was better than "good".

No. I'm mentally still capable.

I've been watching NBA basketball since 1991.

His career numbers are 12 and 7 in 7 NBA seasons.

Doesn't take a lot to impress you I guess?

I'm 60+, so you know how long I've been around. This guy was a monster in his prime. I know you are not someone who believes basketball didn't exist before you started following it.

He started playing here at age 31, at a time when his body was deteriorating. He still managed to play until 38.

Think they put a guy with the stats you quoted into the Hall of Fame if that was all he ever did?

I won't say that you are insane, but you are uninformed.

Let's just be real. We all like the Porzingis to KD and Dirk comparisons.

The Sabonis ones just aren't as sexy.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Nalod wrote:Arvydas Sabonis at 19 was skinny too!!!!
In his prime before he got to the NBA he amazing! His high post passing and ability to shoot the 3 at 7-3 was incredible and it opened things up. He was much better than in prime Pau.
Im not saying Kris can be this guy, but he has potential to be special.

if we got Sabonis I'm going to feel like a moron later. Zingy better hit that gym starting today

Yea Sabonis wasn't exactly good.

Are you insane? How long have you been watching NBA games? Sabonis was better than "good".

No. I'm mentally still capable.

I've been watching NBA basketball since 1991.

His career numbers are 12 and 7 in 7 NBA seasons.

Doesn't take a lot to impress you I guess?

I'm 60+, so you know how long I've been around. This guy was a monster in his prime. I know you are not someone who believes basketball didn't exist before you started following it.

He started playing here at age 31, at a time when his body was deteriorating. He still managed to play until 38.

Think they put a guy with the stats you quoted into the Hall of Fame if that was all he ever did?

I won't say that you are insane, but you are uninformed.

Let's just be real. We all like the Porzingis to KD and Dirk comparisons.

The Sabonis ones just aren't as sexy.

Here are some clips in his prime.

Nobody wanted to mess with him either.

Here is the best collection highlight film of Sabonis in his prime.

Hope this helps.

WaltLongmire wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Nalod wrote:Arvydas Sabonis at 19 was skinny too!!!!
In his prime before he got to the NBA he amazing! His high post passing and ability to shoot the 3 at 7-3 was incredible and it opened things up. He was much better than in prime Pau.
Im not saying Kris can be this guy, but he has potential to be special.

if we got Sabonis I'm going to feel like a moron later. Zingy better hit that gym starting today

Yea Sabonis wasn't exactly good.

Are you insane? How long have you been watching NBA games? Sabonis was better than "good".

No. I'm mentally still capable.

I've been watching NBA basketball since 1991.

His career numbers are 12 and 7 in 7 NBA seasons.

Doesn't take a lot to impress you I guess?

I'm 60+, so you know how long I've been around. This guy was a monster in his prime. I know you are not someone who believes basketball didn't exist before you started following it.

He started playing here at age 31, at a time when his body was deteriorating. He still managed to play until 38.

Think they put a guy with the stats you quoted into the Hall of Fame if that was all he ever did?

I won't say that you are insane, but you are uninformed.

Also, 12 and 7 isn't bad when you consider he did it 24 mins a game. His knees and age prevented him from playing big minutes.

nixluva wrote:

MS wrote:I think it's reasonable. How many quality European bigs have there been with similar skill sets. The knicks never seem to get it right, so there is cause for concern.

Denver reached on a kid like this and got burned. Bargs was a bust. Darko.

Same thing happen's when a white kid is drafted out of college, everyone compares, Morrison, Jimmer, Reddick, Doug McDermout, Frank the tank etc

One thing has nothing to do with the other. The success of KP is completely isolated from what has happened with other players. This is a new regime so the old "knicks never seem to get it right" thing is just a cliche and has no basis in fact with regard to what will happen with this group of coaches and trainers. We're talking about totally different leadership teams. There is no continuity with this groups style of teaching nor the system they're teaching.

KP has enough actual skills and game experience to where he should be able to contribute. He's been playing pro ball and should be able to make the transition. As for him being skinny he's not the only player to come in with his slender physique.

Based on what criteria? You're literally making **** up.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Nalod wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Nalod wrote:Arvydas Sabonis at 19 was skinny too!!!!
In his prime before he got to the NBA he amazing! His high post passing and ability to shoot the 3 at 7-3 was incredible and it opened things up. He was much better than in prime Pau.
Im not saying Kris can be this guy, but he has potential to be special.

if we got Sabonis I'm going to feel like a moron later. Zingy better hit that gym starting today

Yea Sabonis wasn't exactly good.

Are you insane? How long have you been watching NBA games? Sabonis was better than "good".

No. I'm mentally still capable.

I've been watching NBA basketball since 1991.

His career numbers are 12 and 7 in 7 NBA seasons.

Doesn't take a lot to impress you I guess?

Gotta do your homework on this guy. He was 31 when he got here and played until 38, avged 24 min a game and had bad knees.
He killed David Robinson in the olympics. This guy was amazing. Forget the stats, watch some video and some old russian team stuff.
He is in the HOF.
He would have been an MVP type here. This guy was the real deal.

I'm not questioning his international play, I'm sure it was great.

Just not impressed with his short NBA career and production. I'm sure you weren't either.

How is that relevant to the comparison with Prozingis? Sabonis was an excellent player, we would be lucky if the Zinger develops into anything like that.