blkexec wrote:SwishAndDish13 wrote:blkexec wrote:SwishAndDish13 wrote:If they plan to draft him at 4, they really should look to trade down or dump the pick. That's a waste and an insane reach.
If Phil has a mock draft where picks 4-10 are basically on the same level, then how can Kaminsky, Stein and whoever else in that range be a reach?
The NBA mock should be like this.
1 Towns
2 OK4
3 Russell
4 Mudiay
4 Zinger
4 Winsl
4 WCS
4 Kaminsk
4 Turner
4 Payne
4
12
12
12
12
16
16
16
16
Anybody with the same number, is not a reach! If we are picking 4th.....then we can pick anybody with the number 4. This is just an example to say, our pick is at the top of the next tier of players. Phil should look at the draft in groups. Our pick is probably the biggest group of talent in the entire draft. 4-10 range.
He has no upside and you can get a similar or better player without spending much in FA. That is an awful pick. Outside of a few supporters on this board nobody really has him that high (saw you added Payne, that was creative). When was the last time a player like him came into the league and made an impact to justify the high draft status?
The risk of finding a franchise player after the top 3 is very high.
The risk of finding a solid role player after the top 3 is very low.
It depends on Phil risk level.....After Russell and OK4 are gone, all you have is two groups.
High risk to high reward (Zinger, Mudiay, Mario, etc..)
Low risk to medium / high reward (Kaminsky, Stein, Winslow, etc..)
Will Phil pick from the low risk group.....Also called the low bust group. I think Winslow could be a star NBA player. Kaminsky could be a star as well.....They just don't fill one of our major needs that we've had for a long time since Patrick Ewing....(a defensive center). Winslow does at the SG/SF position. And he might be the BPA for what we need. But don't sleep on the high risk high reward group! How must risk is Phil willing to take? Or will he pick the player that Orlando and Kings want? It's pretty easy to get some intel on what other teams are looking to pick. Philly is making it known they want Russell....Either they want LA to draft Russell, so that OK4 falls to Philly? Or they really want Russell.....Philly is really sitting in a nice position, since they need a big and a small.
I agree with your whole assessment. I'm just not high on Kaminsky at all (I see him as high risk given the position people are discussing picking him at). I see him as more of a spread the floor 4 at the NBA level, I don't think he'll bring much else. I wasn't impressed when he faced other comparable talents. Too many similar players in the last few years haven't brought much to the NBA. That said, outside of Kaminsky, I would be comfortable with any of the other options.