BRIGGS wrote:

tj23 wrote:I'm guessing Justise Winslow right now. Phil WAS talking about taking a big but now he has been talking about switching it up. I personally want Mudiay but I am predicting Winslow.

Id be very surprised. He talked about a mature game. Im not sure Winslow even knows what he is. He played 4 in college and is not a great shooter at 6-5. I think he is a good ballhandler but nothing special and well have to wait and see if he can take guys off the dribble. Hes not a polished player. We just traded away a guard who wasnt the best shooter at5 6-5 220 Iman Shumpert.

Out of curiosity, what aspect of WCS's game is mature that makes you think he the odds on favorite to be selected? I've personally never seen a player of his caliber have extended periods at the college level where he was unguarded, but couldn't take advantage.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

tj23 wrote:I'm guessing Justise Winslow right now. Phil WAS talking about taking a big but now he has been talking about switching it up. I personally want Mudiay but I am predicting Winslow.

Id be very surprised. He talked about a mature game. Im not sure Winslow even knows what he is. He played 4 in college and is not a great shooter at 6-5. I think he is a good ballhandler but nothing special and well have to wait and see if he can take guys off the dribble. Hes not a polished player. We just traded away a guard who wasnt the best shooter at5 6-5 220 Iman Shumpert.

Out of curiosity, what aspect of WCS's game is mature that makes you think he the odds on favorite to be selected? I've personally never seen a player of his caliber have extended periods at the college level where he was unguarded, but couldn't take advantage.

That is a good question. Im going on Phill past statements of wanting a young Tyson Chandler.

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think there is a 90% chance that we draft WCS with a pick somewhere from 4-7 but probably 4.

Ill give a 7 % chance to Frank Kaminsky with a pick from 4-7

2% chance that its Porzingis

and 1% to Winslow

I dont think that Mudiay or Hezonga have any chance to be Knicks

The first 3 guys taken are the names that are out there with no change.

We will buy a pick in late 40's and take an obscure name or one of the Harrison's

You gotta give it to Phil though cause there isn't many times when every single draft expert, writer and everyone else has no idea what so ever what the team picking at #4 in the draft is gonna do with that pick. Even F.Asshola was on sportsNite after the Mets game last night and he has no idea what the Knicks will do.

If I had zen Id pick Kaminsky. But only Phil is zen. Porzingis has slight upside on Frank and I hope that the Knicks can see WCS isnt a triangle fit.

BRIGGS wrote:

rpknicks wrote:

Just wonder if some of you guys actually listen to and understand what Jackson says when he gives a press conference.
Jotted down some notes from the recent press conference:

He commented on the Euro leagues and specifically mentioned the preeminence of the Spanish leagues at this time. And that the Euros coming in to the draft have been playing against men. He feels college players might be more athletic, but the Euros are much stronger physically as most are men.

Talking about Euros- "there have been comparisons with other players who come through the draft... that people don't have the time/patience to wait for and Guys become 10 yr all stars... you don't want to walk away from that.

He said the knicks are looking for "Mature kids who have a reasonable understanding of their skills."

He's looking at Personalities, how they fit together as teammates.

He wants to Get a sense of family structure, education, comprehension, and understanding the concepts (of the Triangle).

He says that a kid staying in school can have an advantage, and he is looking at the mental ability and how they can be trained physically and socially.

Read into this whatever you want. Its late, hope I didn't make any mistakes interpreting…might have, though.

Sounds like kaminsky to me. WCS doesn't have it upstairs or in his chest and a guy like Phil can see that through all the hype about a 7 foot pterodactyl on defense.

He's going to shock the world. Frank the tank at 4 (if he can't trade down that it is..and he 's letting everybody know the draft market is not as liquid as most fans think ( or hope) it is.

If we get Kaminsky at 4 why would that be a shocker? The guy is 7-1 and has more versatility and skill other than Russell. If the market doesnt let us trade down--its a solid pick if thats the avenue.

WAKEUPKNICKS2015 wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:Despite Fisher's rookie snafu, the basketball gods will still show favors to the Knicks and bless us with D. Russell. Philly will find it too good to pass on the 7 feet Przinski

Who the F is przinski? Dude there's Kaminsky and Porzingis. Get it right.

His real name is Porzingis? I am not his freaking dad, so it is what it is:::))

newyorker4ever wrote:I'm one of the few that actually is in favor of a trade down whether it's to get a veteran player and a later lottery pick or if it's for multiple picks. If we could trade down and bring back one of T.Lawson or K.Faried and still get that 7th pick i'm all for it.

Dude you want Lawson??? I thought you were better then that... We need two way players not a volume shooter

Knicks1969 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:I'm one of the few that actually is in favor of a trade down whether it's to get a veteran player and a later lottery pick or if it's for multiple picks. If we could trade down and bring back one of T.Lawson or K.Faried and still get that 7th pick i'm all for it.

Dude you want Lawson??? I thought you were better then that... We need two way players not a volume shooter

Lawson can play in the triangle and i don't see dropping from 4 to 7 that big a drop in this draft especially since i don't think Phil wants a Mudiay or Porzingis. A big name free agent would also look at coming and teaming up with a Melo and Lawson or Faried more than he would at just Melo. I'm not in love with Lawson but i definitely see him as a asset.

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

WAKEUPKNICKS2015 wrote:briggs, the ultimate Knicks local drunk lmao. How are you so sure that a guy slotted to be picked outside the top 10 will be the Knicks pick at 4, along with another guy out the top 10 in Kaminsky. You change your mind more than a girl in forever 22 brah. Take a Xanax and try not to start more than 10 threads between now and Thursday about your "final" mock draft. We're going Mudiay or Porzingis...unless somehow okafor or Russell fall in our lap. Mudiay will be a star for the Knicks, as long as Jackson somehow has the balls to fire Fisher...who is afraid to stand up to melo. And we NEED a coach willing to stand up to melo, for our coach to gain respect.

I hate to break it to you--but eIve liked Kaminsky longer than anyone her and my original thoughts of months ago--of trading down to get Kaminsky and perhaps 2-3 extra picks. Ive also said that I think the "Knicks" like WCS and I believe that is their main target based on what I heard PJ say long ago.

Anyone who thinks we are drafting Mudiay is off. Not saying what he can cant do--but I feel confidant he wont be a Knick.

If it was my choice I think Id lean slightly towards Porzingis over Kaminsky. Im not a big of fan of WCS as I think the Knicks are but we need a C. Its one of those 3 with a huge lean towards Stein(what i think the Knicks will do) despite his mock average right now of 11+.

Ummmmmmm no you haven't like Kaminsky longer than anyone here. You just talked about him and made many threads about him on here and you're on here more than anyone else on here. I'm pretty sure there's many people on here that have liked him from the beginning just not at the 4th pick and i'm one of them but just cause you're on here talking about him every single day doesn't mean you've liked him longer.

Right go back and check that 1--I think you will find what Im saying is true.

I don't need to go back and check to see if you've liked Kaminsky longer than i have cause i know i've been a fan before the college year was even over so there's no way at all you can say you've liked him longer than me.

Have you started 1 post where you said you liked Kamnisky for our pick dating back to April--even 1? Show me one post where you say Id be fine taking him at 4? Ive stated I would take him at 4 if need be. This is a good draft many players are good. But there are only like 4-5 people on either of these boards that like Frank Kaminsky AND willing to take him at 4.