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CrushAlot
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6/19/2015  11:19 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
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Phil Jackson: I see Steve as the future of this franchise.
Ouch.

Translation "I see Steve as the future of the franchise, because Dolan sees Steve as the future of the franchise."

I wish someone else was the future. We have experienced the past with Mills. Twelve mil a year to set the table for Mills is quite disappointing.
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6/20/2015  9:23 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Phil Jackson: I see Steve as the future of this franchise.
Ouch.

Translation "I see Steve as the future of the franchise, because Dolan sees Steve as the future of the franchise."

I wish someone else was the future. We have experienced the past with Mills. Twelve mil a year to set the table for Mills is quite disappointing.

With Isiah looming around, I might accept Mills as the future. It's like envisioning an America led by President Lincoln Chafee instead of President Rick Perry.

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6/20/2015  10:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2015  10:33 AM
nixluva wrote:
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PresIke wrote:He's not saying we aren't taking a big, he's saying he thought for certain he was aka Towns or Okafor.

So whereas before I was like, O.K., we’re going to draft a big, now we have to be open to what’s there for us that makes our team different. So that changes up our look now and our look next week when we go into the free-agent chase. So we’ve had to do a lot more work.

Yeah, we have no big men. So we’re seeing what can we add to our team that will move us along and make us a better team, and we’ll have to fill out that big possibility with some free agents if we end up going smaller with wings and guards in the draft.

Like i said in my post.....there's another article on chat sports that has other comments he made where he said they'll have to fill out the big possibility with free agents if we end up going smaller with wings or guards in the draft. I guess it can be taken a couple different ways but you can definitely take it as he's planning on drafting a wing or guard in the draft. Here's the link to the article i'm talking about but once again this is the only message board that my links can't be clicked on for some reason so someone will have to repost it.

Are you using the URL coding button and putting the link inside of the code. It works fine for me.
http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knicks/a/Phil-Jackson-Draft-drop-dramatically-changed-offseason-0-11526256

Basically Phil isn't saying what the team is actually going to do. He's just saying that the choice would've been simple at #1 or #2 cuz you take a big there either Towns or Okafor. Now he's saying that other options are on the table down at #4

Nix i appreciate you trying to help me with these links but i'm not really a computer guy and i have no idea what a URL or it's coding button even is LOL. I wish i did cause it bothers the shat out of me that this is the only message board that my links don't work on but thank you for reposting it for me and trying to help. What i do is a right click on the title of the article and then i click on copy link address and then i right click in the spot that i'm placing the article and i paste it and that's it and it works on every other message board.

About his comments......i see that he doesn't blatantly say it but he does imply it in a way and i just left chat sports and now they have a new article with the title is: Knicks draft plans might not be 'Big' so it's just that he shouldn't even be making it sound in any way which way he's leaning in the draft cause it can really mess up any trade offers they could receive.

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6/20/2015  11:04 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:
nixluva wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
PresIke wrote:He's not saying we aren't taking a big, he's saying he thought for certain he was aka Towns or Okafor.

So whereas before I was like, O.K., we’re going to draft a big, now we have to be open to what’s there for us that makes our team different. So that changes up our look now and our look next week when we go into the free-agent chase. So we’ve had to do a lot more work.

Yeah, we have no big men. So we’re seeing what can we add to our team that will move us along and make us a better team, and we’ll have to fill out that big possibility with some free agents if we end up going smaller with wings and guards in the draft.

Like i said in my post.....there's another article on chat sports that has other comments he made where he said they'll have to fill out the big possibility with free agents if we end up going smaller with wings or guards in the draft. I guess it can be taken a couple different ways but you can definitely take it as he's planning on drafting a wing or guard in the draft. Here's the link to the article i'm talking about but once again this is the only message board that my links can't be clicked on for some reason so someone will have to repost it.

Are you using the URL coding button and putting the link inside of the code. It works fine for me.
http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knicks/a/Phil-Jackson-Draft-drop-dramatically-changed-offseason-0-11526256

Basically Phil isn't saying what the team is actually going to do. He's just saying that the choice would've been simple at #1 or #2 cuz you take a big there either Towns or Okafor. Now he's saying that other options are on the table down at #4

Nix i appreciate you trying to help me with these links but i'm not really a computer guy and i have no idea what a URL or it's coding button even is LOL. I wish i did cause it bothers the shat out of me that this is the only message board that my links don't work on but thank you for reposting it for me and trying to help. What i do is a right click on the title of the article and then i click on copy link address and then i right click in the spot that i'm placing the article and i paste it and that's it and it works on every other message board.

About his comments......i see that he doesn't blatantly say it but he does imply it in a way and i just left chat sports and now they have a new article with the title is: Knicks draft plans might not be 'Big' so it's just that he shouldn't even be making it sound in any way which way he's leaning in the draft cause it can really mess up any trade offers they could receive.

newyorker4ever, when you go to use the Quote or Post New Reply you will have a series of boxes above the area that you print your text next to the word "Format:" and you should see the URL box. After you paste your URL into the text area, all you have to do is select that URL and then click the URL box above and it will wrap your URL with the proper codes.

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6/20/2015  11:12 AM
http://deadspin.com/what-the-hell-is-phil-jackson-even-talking-about-1712566653?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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6/20/2015  11:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2015  11:43 AM
http://www.chatsports.com/new-york-knicks/a/Phil-Jackson-Knicks-draft-plans-might-not-be-big-0-11527642

You're the man Nix. I really appreciate the help with posting my links. I knew we were both WCS fans for a reason. LOL

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6/20/2015  3:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2015  3:01 PM
Phil said he was expecting votes for GM of the year..He said he was serious..He said Mitch Kupchak got a vote for the job he did and he thinks he deserves at least a vote for getting rid of the fat(salary).
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6/20/2015  3:14 PM
holfresh wrote:Phil said he was expecting votes for GM of the year..He said he was serious..He said Mitch Kupchak got a vote for the job he did and he thinks he deserves at least a vote for getting rid of the fat(salary).

I believe Phil was joking when he said that, just like when he insisted "goink" wasn't a typo. Otherwise it's very worrying!

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6/20/2015  3:40 PM
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holfresh wrote:Phil said he was expecting votes for GM of the year..He said he was serious..He said Mitch Kupchak got a vote for the job he did and he thinks he deserves at least a vote for getting rid of the fat(salary).

I believe Phil was joking when he said that, just like when he insisted "goink" wasn't a typo. Otherwise it's very worrying!


Not sure that his dry "dead pan" humor is recognized when he is communicating with interviewers/writers.

I expect that he was hinting at the fact that Kupchak's Lakers, who had been in the finals in 2009 (Under Jackson, of course), had as bad of a season as the Knicks but somebody still gave him recognition, even though he had finished in the lottery last year, too.

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6/20/2015  4:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/20/2015  11:58 PM
Rosey wrote:This interview article made me chuckle. -snip- Like it or not, he's shaping the Knicks into a team with a unique identity that's different from the league trends. (I guess it's better than no identity at all except being a treated as a league joke). Phil is probably gone before his contract ends so it's a matter of what he leaves in place. He is worried about his legacy and has too much ego to be lazy and in it just for the $$$. I think his limitations are health related and that's why he didn't totally clean house with the Knick management. -snip-

I think Phil realizes that the process he starts will have a trajectory that far exceeds his tenure and will bear fruit for others. I have never read anything in Phil's interviews saying he might not fulfill the contract he signed. If anything he's more committed than anyone to what he's building.

But yes, his health and lifestyle choices make his exercise of leadership unique, enigmatic, and can lead those of the figurative theology to take his words as absolute - thereby mistaking metaphor for motivations.

Phil is "All In", nothing the beat writers say to the contrary changes that.

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6/21/2015  1:01 AM
I also thought this interview snippet was worth revisiting;

Jackson said he had originally planned to work out only 12 to 15 prospects, back when the Knicks had the best odds of securing one of the top two picks in the draft. But that pool has since expanded to upward of 30 players. Whether the Knicks keep the pick or trade it, the draft will offer them an opportunity to begin to reshape their roster before the onset of free agency.
“I have a definite idea about how I want a team to look and what kind of skills the players need to have,” said Jackson, who remains as wedded to the triangle offense as ever. “When everybody else says, ‘Well, this might be their best pick,’ we’re not going that way at all. We’re going with what we feel will be the best player for us at this particular time.”

Here he redefines BPA to be BPA ["for us at this particular time"]. I don't think this is a positional redefinition. In other words, let's identify say a center. I think the player selected will be a missing puzzle piece from what they already believe is a make-shift, post-FA roster.

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6/21/2015  2:09 AM
mills doesn't strike me as a good basketball mind... his background was pretty much non-basketball related all the way up until he filled the gm seat for the knicks which made it a curious decision from my view....

i think jackson is pretty much trying to mentor mills on the basketball side until jackson's ready to leave... i dunno how i feel about that..

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6/21/2015  4:01 AM
FistOfOakley wrote:mills doesn't strike me as a good basketball mind... his background was pretty much non-basketball related all the way up until he filled the gm seat for the knicks which made it a curious decision from my view....

i think jackson is pretty much trying to mentor mills on the basketball side until jackson's ready to leave... i dunno how i feel about that..

I put Mills in the same kind of category as Layden- good at doing the ground work, but lacking any sort of vision or fire

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6/21/2015  1:23 PM
At first i was totally in disagreement that phil came here for the $, but now i'm 100% convince that's the cast. $60 fkng million for a consultant because that's all he is.
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6/22/2015  8:37 AM
Q. No offense to Steve, but why weren’t you the team’s public face on the dais at the draft lottery?

JACKSON: I see Steve as the future of this franchise. I mean, I’m here for a time, and I’m trying to help turn it around the best way I can. But I can see Steve having a lasting tenure here, and this is one of the things that’s good about our relationship, that we can grow from our teamwork. I couldn’t believe that there was some kind of hue and cry over whether I should have been there to watch what in effect had taken place in a back room, where they had some balls rolling around in a hamster cage.

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Phil Jackson interview in the Times

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