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Knicks need to identify the teams below who like Porzingis and what they will give up.
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JrZyHuStLa
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6/17/2015  2:42 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Id keep Porzingis at 4 but I know the Knicks won't. So we need to identify who does and what would make sense for the Knicks. I think Oraldno is the team that makes the most sense since they are 5 and tried to get him last year.

If he does indeed slip to 4 they should grab him EVEN if they want someone else. If we take him at 4 and Orlando is hemorrhaging for him at 5 we can ask for 2 #1(2016 and 2018) and then we can swap to 5. We need to be smart here and keep the cards in

Another prediction! How do you know this? What is the secret to your powers of prophecy?

Hahahaha yeah a lot of people on here need to stop saying they KNOW anything that will happen in this draft or how any of these kids will be at the next level cause they absolutely 100% do not know and they should start using the IMO or saying "i think". It's really annoying when people act like they know when they don't and that i can say that i know 100%.

I know whoever the Knicks draft will bust.

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newyorker4ever
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6/17/2015  2:44 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Id keep Porzingis at 4 but I know the Knicks won't. So we need to identify who does and what would make sense for the Knicks. I think Oraldno is the team that makes the most sense since they are 5 and tried to get him last year.

If he does indeed slip to 4 they should grab him EVEN if they want someone else. If we take him at 4 and Orlando is hemorrhaging for him at 5 we can ask for 2 #1(2016 and 2018) and then we can swap to 5. We need to be smart here and keep the cards in

Another prediction! How do you know this? What is the secret to your powers of prophecy?

Hahahaha yeah a lot of people on here need to stop saying they KNOW anything that will happen in this draft or how any of these kids will be at the next level cause they absolutely 100% do not know and they should start using the IMO or saying "i think". It's really annoying when people act like they know when they don't and that i can say that i know 100%.

I know whoever the Knicks draft will bust.

I know you're wrong and you're not a true Knicks fan.

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6/17/2015  2:49 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Id keep Porzingis at 4 but I know the Knicks won't. So we need to identify who does and what would make sense for the Knicks. I think Oraldno is the team that makes the most sense since they are 5 and tried to get him last year.

If he does indeed slip to 4 they should grab him EVEN if they want someone else. If we take him at 4 and Orlando is hemorrhaging for him at 5 we can ask for 2 #1(2016 and 2018) and then we can swap to 5. We need to be smart here and keep the cards in

Another prediction! How do you know this? What is the secret to your powers of prophecy?

Hahahaha yeah a lot of people on here need to stop saying they KNOW anything that will happen in this draft or how any of these kids will be at the next level cause they absolutely 100% do not know and they should start using the IMO or saying "i think". It's really annoying when people act like they know when they don't and that i can say that i know 100%.

I have 15 years of Knick history behind my thought process.

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6/17/2015  3:12 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
wargames wrote:I feel Porzingis is more important because he fills up a big ? mark on the top #5 mock. I can't see LA or Philly not going for one of the agreed upon top #3 guys. Even if Russell goes to LA, How does Philly say no to Okafor with Embiid possibly out again next year? However Orlando would love Porzingis and are so close to the knicks at #4 I doubt they would be willing to give up anything substantial to move 1 pick up. I am pretty sure Porzingis would be taken #5 by the magic. They are a young team who can spend the next 2-3 seasons letting him grow and he would fit great next to Vucevic. At #6 I am also pretty certain WCS would be taken because Demarcus Cousins loves him and they have that UK connection. So at #7

Knicks In:#7/#12/Trey Burke
Knicks out:#4/Jose Calderon/THjr

Nuggets In:Jose Calderon/#4
Nuggets Out:Ty Lawson/#7

Jazz In:Ty Lawson/THjr
Jazz Out:#12/Trey Burke

with #7 the knicks can pick Winslow, stanley johnson, or Henzonja and with #12 they can choose from Trey Lyles, Kaminsky, Looney, or Payne. All of those players are players they've been attached too. Plus Trey Burke could be a upgrade at PG or another trade piece. #7, and #12 for #4 is a fair deal. Thats two players for a little less than a mil more in starting salary than the #4 pick would make. So Cap Wise its also a smart move. Hell just to make the casuals feel good Denver can throw in the Portland first rounder that is 1-14 protected. The odds of it not becoming a second rounder is low because if LMA leaves Portland is going to immediately Tank.... but it will look good in the newspapers and could be flipped for something else.


I will be ecstatic if we could pull that off but the three team trades are tough to pull off.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/35jyp7/up_in_down_out_the_effectiveness_of_draft_day/

Here is a link of draft trades since 2006 for top 25 picks. IT shows some noticeable trends. No one trades out of the top ten into the middle of the draft directly. Sometimes trading back in the top 5 is good (OJ Mayo for Kevin Love was 3 for 5) and sometimes its bad (Tyrus Thomas for LMA was 4 for 2). The Last 3 team trade was in 2012 and involved a lot of players besides just the pick. The biggest drop in the top 10 was on average 3 picks.

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6/17/2015  3:29 PM
Looks like briggs and kaminsky had a falling out. The euro is the new future star lol
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6/17/2015  3:38 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Looks like briggs and kaminsky had a falling out. The euro is the new future star lol

BRIGGS loves them and leaves them

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6/17/2015  3:40 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Looks like briggs and kaminsky had a falling out. The euro is the new future star lol

Hey watch his video again . I cannot deny his talent and I'm surprised others can't see it? Kaminsky right now after the nba finals I think Kaminsky is around the 6-8 area

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6/17/2015  3:45 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Looks like briggs and kaminsky had a falling out. The euro is the new future star lol

Hey watch his video again . I cannot deny his talent and I'm surprised others can't see it? Kaminsky right now after the nba finals I think Kaminsky is around the 6-8 area

GS would die to get him, Briggs...they would have a dynasty in the waiting, IMO.

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6/17/2015  3:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/17/2015  3:47 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Looks like briggs and kaminsky had a falling out. The euro is the new future star lol

Hey watch his video again . I cannot deny his talent and I'm surprised others can't see it? Kaminsky right now after the nba finals I think Kaminsky is around the 6-8 area

im not denying he has talent but im very leary of taking euro players so high. Lets be fair most euro players taken this high havent worked. Also we would be passing on a good amount of talent like mudiay, winslow, and possibly one of the big 3 if they fall
Knicks need to identify the teams below who like Porzingis and what they will give up.

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