Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Nalod wrote:GS did not blow me away. Very good team who stayed healthy in the west.
Can't take that away from them. Good depth and cool shooters under pressure.

SAS conf finals would have been a good test for them. Playoffs are part tournament and match ups matter.
Worthy champs but we'll have to see if this trend of ball continues.

Maybe they don't come across as special but they played the highest level of basketball all season and post-season. Even in the playoffs, the had the highest winning % and the by far the highest point differential (+7.8 per game with Cleveland in 2nd at barely half that). I think by all measures they were well above the competition.
I'll admit that I'm not sure what would have happened if Lebron was still superhuman and he had a healthy Irving and Love though.

It would be funny if he weren't in charge of the Knicks.

I was thinking the same thing. You can't make up a story about a GM being this wrong in his first 15 months. If it were any other team, it would be hilarious.

Only Knick fans judge their GM this harshly before they've even had one offseason with cap space and an actual draft pick. Zero perspective.

smackeddog wrote:Warriors caught so many breaks with opposing teams injuries- Conely and Allen vs the Griz, Beverley vs the Rockets, and then Kyrie and Love vs the Cavs. Steph was great, but he lucked out in not having to face any PGs or top rate defenders

So do you lose on purpose when a "break" presents itself to you?

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Nalod wrote:GS did not blow me away. Very good team who stayed healthy in the west.
Can't take that away from them. Good depth and cool shooters under pressure.

SAS conf finals would have been a good test for them. Playoffs are part tournament and match ups matter.
Worthy champs but we'll have to see if this trend of ball continues.

Maybe they don't come across as special but they played the highest level of basketball all season and post-season. Even in the playoffs, the had the highest winning % and the by far the highest point differential (+7.8 per game with Cleveland in 2nd at barely half that). I think by all measures they were well above the competition.
I'll admit that I'm not sure what would have happened if Lebron was still superhuman and he had a healthy Irving and Love though.

It would be funny if he weren't in charge of the Knicks.

I was thinking the same thing. You can't make up a story about a GM being this wrong in his first 15 months. If it were any other team, it would be hilarious.

Only Knick fans judge their GM this harshly before they've even had one offseason with cap space and an actual draft pick. Zero perspective.

You must have misunderstood my comments. I'm judging what has happened in the first fifteen months, not making a final judgment.
Whether it's fifteen seconds or months, you can judge what has happened. You just have to have appropriate qualifiers based on how large or small the time period of observation is.

I'm really baffled at how people are judging phil on his future moves, like the 1st 15 months was a bad dream that has already cost dolan $20 million in which he has already paid phil plus the 5 million for fisher.

So dolan has paid out $30 mill to phil and fish and his staff, and all he has to show for it is a 17 win season, a 4th overall pick, a overpaid star, and a suspect prospect in early anthony.. I guess 30 million doesnt get you what it use to.

In fact by giving fisher 5 mill a yr (the most for a rookie coach at the time) it has set the min salary for coaches with zero coaching experience. Thats 1 million less then pop made the last yr..

smackeddog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Nalod wrote:GS did not blow me away. Very good team who stayed healthy in the west.
Can't take that away from them. Good depth and cool shooters under pressure.

SAS conf finals would have been a good test for them. Playoffs are part tournament and match ups matter.
Worthy champs but we'll have to see if this trend of ball continues.

Maybe they don't come across as special but they played the highest level of basketball all season and post-season. Even in the playoffs, the had the highest winning % and the by far the highest point differential (+7.8 per game with Cleveland in 2nd at barely half that). I think by all measures they were well above the competition.
I'll admit that I'm not sure what would have happened if Lebron was still superhuman and he had a healthy Irving and Love though.

It would be funny if he weren't in charge of the Knicks.

I was thinking the same thing. You can't make up a story about a GM being this wrong in his first 15 months. If it were any other team, it would be hilarious.

Only Knick fans judge their GM this harshly before they've even had one offseason with cap space and an actual draft pick. Zero perspective.

You must have misunderstood my comments. I'm judging what has happened in the first fifteen months, not making a final judgment.
Whether it's fifteen seconds or months, you can judge what has happened. You just have to have appropriate qualifiers based on how large or small the time period of observation is.

I'm really baffled at how people are judging phil on his future moves, like the 1st 15 months was a bad dream that has already cost dolan $20 million in which he has already paid phil plus the 5 million for fisher.

So dolan has paid out $30 mill to phil and fish and his staff, and all he has to show for it is a 17 win season, a 4th overall pick, a overpaid star, and a suspect prospect in early anthony.. I guess 30 million doesnt get you what it use to.

In fact by giving fisher 5 mill a yr (the most for a rookie coach at the time) it has set the min salary for coaches with zero coaching experience. Thats 1 million less then pop made the last yr..

If you actually care about Dolans millions, then fine, but you'll find the salary and luxury tax saving Phil got him via the roster purge have pretty much paid for his salary.

We'll find out what the cap space and the pick land us this offseason. of course if you think it makes sense to judge the moves before we find out the outcome of them then thats your crazy prerogative.

Yeah.. it took a hell of a lot of negotiations to buy Amare out, and trade JR and shumpert for 2029 2nd rnd pick.

We sure will find out in less then 2 wks, but im not holding my breath. He will probably draft some Euro that was on no ones list (i didn't here or see one person on this board list early anthony on there wish list)

Congrats to Warriors/SKerr and staff. great D,court awareness,team play and it's a wrap.

- Phil Jackson (@PhilJackson11)