fishmike wrote:I figure we are privy to about 30% of the relevant data. We get to see game footage, and that counts for a lot. We get edited and selected workout footage. We don't see practice. We don't see individual workouts meant to gauge specific skills... I mean who knows? It comes down to gut feeling, and after the big three of Towns/OK4/Russell my gut says its a go between of WCS and Mudiay. I want someone who can really impact the game and both of those guys represent impact on one side of the ball or another. I just don't know... they all have concerns. They also have high ceilings...

Yeah that's why i was saying it's kinda silly to GUESS who will be the best 5. There's probably at least 20 players that have the talent to be one of the top 5 players in 4/5 years. You have the obvious kids in OK4 and Towns and then i can see a C.Payne end up being the top PG in this draft or S.Johnson being the top SG/SF to come out of this draft and i can keep going cause there's so many that have great talent but who knows who will get drafted into a bad system for their talents or who will get injured or whatever so that's some of the reasons why i said this is silly.

Towns
Russel
Ok4
Perzingis

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Towns
Okafor
Russell
Winslow

No change from a few weeks ago. These 4 min clips don't mean much to me.

2nd verse same as the 1st:

Towns
Okafor
Russell
Winslow

Workouts don't impress me; even benchwarmers look awesome when no one's guarding them. And hell, we're not even able to watch the whole workout so we don't what what was missed. A couple weeks ago Chad Ford has posted a clip of Mudiay hitting a bunch of 3s during a workout to hype him up; when a larger portion of the video was posted he was missing shots all over the place.

What matters more than anything else is production on the court. After that, it's how you feel those skills translate to the NBA. Adam Morrison, for example, was an undeniably great college player but I never thought for a second we was a legit NBA player (of course, I also thought the same thing about Steph Curry so what the **** do I know).

I keep saying: Remember when Yi Jianlan destroyed that chair in the workout and people where absolutely drooling at "the next so and so"?

1) Towns
2) Russell
3) Okafor
4) Winslow

newyorker4ever wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I cannot copy paste my post from thread by Guns about him being set on picking Portzingis. Apple fail ! That don't happen often but yeah, it's there, if anyone could copy paste it please into this thread I would greatly appreciate it

Who's set on picking Zinger??

Would do it in a heartbeat, but would also love OK4, who has a good life story to root for, Kaminsky, the marginalized college star who is now a sleeper pick, and OK4's partner from Duke, who might someday become the human terminator.

WaltLongmire wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:Towns
Hezonja
Mudiay
Okafor
Fuzaro

This one should cause folks to look twice.

You know stuff we don't know, or are you throwing some kind of bone to Briggs?

I don't think Zinger handles the speed in the NBA, I call bust. But Fuzaro... Maybe he ducks out of his draft quietly waiting for free agency next year, but I think he is gonna be a stud. Hezonja isn't for my team this year, but I think he is the top SG coming out. I think Russell competes immediately while some of these guys have adjustment periods, but I think that he will end up getting lost in tweener land and eventually pushed to SG where his athleticism will be a liability. Russell really is the biggest risk reward in this draft and I would take him in a heartbeat and pray he is a Steph Curry clone. Mudiay is likely to be great some day, I am not sure I can wait. This draft is so deep that we will be looking at guys like Trey Lyles and Cameron Payne as they make their 3rd all star games and laugh that they barely crack the top 10 best players in the draft.

So best players, see above. Best value on a rookie scale contract? Different question.