WaltLongmire wrote:holfresh wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Can't vote until I see some recent video of Winslow working out, as well as Porzingis, who should be doing a workout in a couple of days.I'm assuming that Towns and Russell won't be available, but OK4 might be, and Mudiay will be.
I would be choosing from Winslow, Porzingis, and Kaminsky.
This is a poll I came across looking for the prospect workout schedule. Has not changed much since I cam across it a week ago: Scroll down to see the poll results.
http://www.nba.com/knicks/NYKDraft15
I'm confounded that you put so much stock in workouts or workout videos...
Actually, of the 3 guys I am leaning toward, two were in the finals of the NCAAs, and the other has done well against good Euro competition. All three have been successful, and done things in actual games- not just in workouts.
I need to see certain things.
From Winslow I need to see him shoot off the dribble and also know that he can catch and shoot accurately when under pressure. I would love to see him do the drill that OK4 did with LA- the one where most guys on UK completely misunderstood what they were seeing. Winslow was something like 2/19 shooting off the dribble. Is that what you want from your SG/SF?
Want to see if Porzingis has worked on an inside game, and see his movement on D. He's a freak, and comes from a basketball family. Barring injury he could be the best player from this draft 5 years down the road. One hesitations is his passing ability.
I'd also like to look at Kaminsky's footwork on D. He has the most well rounded and versatile game of any big man in this draft, and has shown actual improvement during his college career.
OK4 and Mudiay did not look great in those LA practices
So what exactly do you look at when you are evaluating a player? I want a well rounded player who can play on both ends of the court- you don't take one dimensional players at #4 and imagine what they will do at some point- I want guys who have already shown something and have the right fundamentals.
We should have been deciding between Russell and Towns, but that didn't happen- so I want a guy who has shown he can do a little of everything.
At this point, I lean toward Kaminsky, and I might even do that if OK4 is available.
Added- Both Winslow and Porzingis are in play for me if there is some way to see what they look like now, especially Winslow.
I look at how they played during the year before getting to the NBA and project their talents from there..It's not the same watching a player shoot..They all shoot well in isolation...I have seen many players shoot before games and they don't miss..In games it's completely different..
Also, most of these guys are college freshmen..They have a long way to go to become complete players...A single workout does not do justice to what they can be..What it can do is confirm a certain skill sets or lack there of, but it might not, might be an off day...It certainly doesn't tell the whole story...