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jbeachboy
Posts: 20253 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2015 Member: #6050 |
6/9/2015 7:30 PM
wait, why did phil trade tyson chandler then so he can draft cauley stein?
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jbeachboy
Posts: 20253 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2015 Member: #6050 |
6/9/2015 7:30 PM
or did he trade chandler just to get rid of felton?
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/9/2015 8:02 PM
jbeachboy wrote:or did he trade chandler just to get rid of felton? Phil explained that he wants a young big like Tyson but Tyson isn't even Tyson anymore. During a 45-minute presentation to season-ticket holders at the Garden’s Theatre, Jackson also was asked what he cherished more in a big man — the ability to pass and score or be a dominant defender. IMO WCS is an even greater athlete and help defender than Tyson. He's faster than Tyson, more agile and jumps higher than Tyson. 3/4 Sprint Agility Max Vert |
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martin
Posts: 76509 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
6/9/2015 8:03 PM
jbeachboy wrote:wait, why did phil trade tyson chandler then so he can draft cauley stein? Tyson has been injured and averages only 60 games a year over the past 10. Going to be 33 will a command rate of ~$13+M. Zero offensive skills outside of the dunk. Bad hands, bad attitude when in NY. WCS seems like a friskier version who can guard on the perimeter much better. And it seems *SEEMS* like maybe in a year or so that 15 footer could be legit. And he would be under a rookie contract for 5 years so that you could spend top dollar on other pieces. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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jbeachboy
Posts: 20253 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2015 Member: #6050 |
6/9/2015 8:05 PM
this is a guard or wing oriented league now, harder to find a mudiay or winslow
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
6/9/2015 8:08 PM
I think the Knicks "show" was too strong today. For a team who prides itself in privacy when they open their mouths its disaster.
Lets think about this for 1 second. Is there ANY and I mean ANY team who came out and said this guy is not s good as this guy no way hes going to be picked here. No--only the kNicks. If they do like Stein they are dealing with a tiger right above them who is probably wiling to take the best offer over making a pick. Theyve done that in 3 straight drafts RIP Crushalot😞
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jbeachboy
Posts: 20253 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2015 Member: #6050 |
6/9/2015 8:10 PM
hopefully they find a team dumb enough to give assets into moving up to 4 to get their guy
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/9/2015 8:21 PM
jbeachboy wrote:this is a guard or wing oriented league now, harder to find a mudiay or winslow There are always more guards and wings coming along every day. It's not even clear that Mudiay is going to be an elite guard. Winslow should be a good player tho he's not even a SG even tho he's SG size. IMO it's gonna be a tough call, but i'm looking at it from a team building standpoint. If I can get a super athletic 7' defensive anchor, who at least shows some flashes that he might be able to also score on more than dunks, they I have to take him. I think you should build from the inside out. 7'ers are rare and a 7'er that can move like Kenyon Martin is even more rare. People get enamored with guards and wings, which is fine, but Winslow isn't a Kobe or MJ type. We don't really even know what Winslow is at the NBA level. We hope he's like Butler or Kahwi. Even if Winslow is legit, IMO a big time Defensive Center is more important to building a great team. WCS impacts the team without the ball. Winslow also is very good without the ball, but he's not protecting your rim, which helps everyone. |
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
6/9/2015 9:21 PM
I sorry for being insulting, and I know OK4 is not known for his jumpers... and I don't necessarily want OK4, BUT
some of you guy are totally ignorant about the drill he was being put through! They are making him do the hesitation movement, that is why the shot is not pure. He is supposed to be doing a quick fake to put an opponent off balance before he shoots. Dribble-stop-pump fake-shot. I'm 5'10" and used to do this all the time if I ever got close to the basket with a defender on me. Good way for me to get him off balance, and for a non-jumper like me, I had to do it a lot. They are just making it more difficult for him than a simple jump shot. This is a drill designed to put him out of his comfort zone and see how he adjusts.
Totally surprised that nobody else understood the drill and the awkwardness from the shot. Try taking a foul shot that way, and see how less accurate you are than if you go through your regular shooting motion.
EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
6/9/2015 9:50 PM
OK4 needs to go to Horrors school of shooting, and just take his time and not rush
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
6/9/2015 9:53 PM
CrushAlot wrote:On his video he shoots a lot better than Mudiay. Mudiays video did not have the misses cut out so here is what phil is thinking ....
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blkexec
Posts: 28347 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
6/9/2015 10:11 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:I sorry for being insulting, and I know OK4 is not known for his jumpers... and I don't necessarily want OK4, BUT Ok....i agree that some of the guys on this site are not the best ballers in the park.....but i can speak up for the ballers......i have a very nice resume. And my hesitation from the free throw line is like a layup. Unfortunately thats not the issue with ok4.....granted i only watch 1:10 due to my bad signal. But his foot work is what the issue is.....the reason is because hes a post player with a set shot. But in this video hes forced to be a jumpshooter off the dribble. Thats not his game. But as a set shot...he can hit that jay. Hes just not a jumpshooter. His feet and shooting motion are not in sink. Its like teaching my 9 yr old to shoot of the dribble.....he will look the same way. Hes still a legit post man....just a pure old school version. Towns and wcs shoot like they used to be a guard then had a growth spurt. Ok4 was always a big dude..... Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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blkexec
Posts: 28347 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
6/9/2015 10:16 PM
Briggs....i finally realized why you make so many threads.....you only read your damn threads. Youve done that to me before. But this iscrazy. Nix posted that video multiple times....lmao
Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
6/9/2015 10:16 PM
blkexec wrote:Briggs....i finally realized why you make so many threads.....you only read your damn threads. Youve done that to me before. But this iscrazy. Nix posted that video multiple times....lmao he could give 2 shyts so here is what phil is thinking ....
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
6/9/2015 10:18 PM LAST EDITED: 6/9/2015 10:19 PM
jbeachboy wrote:wait, why did phil trade tyson chandler then so he can draft cauley stein? Forget that. Why did he waive Dalembert just to draft Stein?!  |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/9/2015 10:24 PM
mreinman wrote:blkexec wrote:Briggs....i finally realized why you make so many threads.....you only read your damn threads. Youve done that to me before. But this iscrazy. Nix posted that video multiple times....lmao Heck I thought it was something new at first. Now I know why BRIGGS seems to be ignoring points we make. He may never have saw them. LOL. |
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
6/9/2015 10:25 PM
nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:blkexec wrote:Briggs....i finally realized why you make so many threads.....you only read your damn threads. Youve done that to me before. But this iscrazy. Nix posted that video multiple times....lmao :-) and now he is giving himself a stein window so here is what phil is thinking ....
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