holfresh wrote:WCS is Robin Lopez 2.0..

Meh! I think that's underselling just how athletic WCS actually is. Of course they're very similar in terms of being defensive big men with limited offense, but I think WCS would be considered a much more talented Prospect. WCS has much more upside IMO. Robin has done pretty well given where he started. I think WCS can be a lot closer to what Tyson Chandler has been but with the chance to be better offensively.

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:WCS is Robin Lopez 2.0..

Meh! I think that's underselling just how athletic WCS actually is. Of course they're very similar in terms of being defensive big men with limited offense, but I think WCS would be considered a much more talented Prospect. WCS has much more upside IMO. Robin has done pretty well given where he started. I think WCS can be a lot closer to what Tyson Chandler has been but with the chance to be better offensively.

He isn't worth the 4th pick..He won't be a difference maker like Lopez when Winslow has a much higher upside...

crzymdups wrote:

blkexec wrote:
Lopez
Melo
Winslow
Carroll
Gallo

I could live with that lineup... but do you think Melo would really go back to playing PF? I feel like he's against that. His agency, CAA, spurred the Bargnani trade to get Melo out of the 4 spot. I do think Melo is best at the 4 and I'd be curious to see what he'd look like next to a Winslow or Tobias Harris.

I just feel like it's a lock that Melo will be at the 3 and Monroe at the 4 on opening night.

I believe Phil will build a flexible team where each player will play multiple positions. I believe Melo at the 4 will be better for his career health wise. Not sure how much pull CCA has but melo normally plays both forward spots.

Robin Lopez is very similar to WCS.....but not as fluent with his feet or agility. For example....Lopez is more like a tight end.....Stein is a fluent wide receiver. I would love to add him if available though. And i dont know about Monroe at 4.....Depends on who plays the 5. The problem is i dont like him ar 4 or 5......It would have to be a big like Bargs....Kaminsky. ....Porzingis to play next to him. ...becuase the paint would be too crowded......and transistion offense would be slow and boring. Stein or Winslow adds speed and youth. Need to follow that strategy.

blkexec wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

blkexec wrote:
Lopez
Melo
Winslow
Carroll
Gallo

I could live with that lineup... but do you think Melo would really go back to playing PF? I feel like he's against that. His agency, CAA, spurred the Bargnani trade to get Melo out of the 4 spot. I do think Melo is best at the 4 and I'd be curious to see what he'd look like next to a Winslow or Tobias Harris.

I just feel like it's a lock that Melo will be at the 3 and Monroe at the 4 on opening night.

I believe Phil will build a flexible team where each player will play multiple positions. I believe Melo at the 4 will be better for his career health wise. Not sure how much pull CCA has but melo normally plays both forward spots.

Robin Lopez is very similar to WCS.....but not as fluent with his feet or agility. For example....Lopez is more like a tight end.....Stein is a fluent wide receiver. I would love to add him if available though. And i dont know about Monroe at 4.....Depends on who plays the 5. The problem is i dont like him ar 4 or 5......It would have to be a big like Bargs....Kaminsky. ....Porzingis to play next to him. ...becuase the paint would be too crowded......and transistion offense would be slow and boring. Stein or Winslow adds speed and youth. Need to follow that strategy.

Re: Melo and CAA - I don't think CAA wants Melo to play the 3 necessarily. I think he's told them he wants to play the 3 and they are trying to get him what he wants as his agency.

I don't love Robin Lopez - he's certainly decent. I just think Stein could be an all-star level defender, which I do not see from Lopez. I think Stein has a chance to look like young Camby here - the 99 Camby who was flying all over teams in the playoffs.

Knixkik wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

blkexec wrote:
Lopez
Melo
Winslow
Carroll
Gallo

I could live with that lineup... but do you think Melo would really go back to playing PF? I feel like he's against that. His agency, CAA, spurred the Bargnani trade to get Melo out of the 4 spot. I do think Melo is best at the 4 and I'd be curious to see what he'd look like next to a Winslow or Tobias Harris.

I just feel like it's a lock that Melo will be at the 3 and Monroe at the 4 on opening night.

I think Monroe is a 5 and will be there opening night. The 4 position will belong to Bargnani, T Harris, or Melo if they put him there.

I'm just thinking about Phil's Lakers team - 7'0" Bynum at center, 7'0" Gasol at PF, 6'10" Odom at SF. I think Phil likes size at every position.

I could really see him going:

Galloway 6'2"
Carroll 6'8"
Melo 6'8"
Monroe 6'10"
WCS 7'0"

Or something like that. I think if Winslow was 6'8" he'd absolutely be the pick - instead he's like 6'6" in shoes, which is small for a small forward and I'm not sure he can play SG as far as lateral quickness and all that. If he can, I think he may be the pick.

newyorker4ever wrote:I'm fine with Winslow, WCS, Porzingis, Russell or Mudiay at 4.

I'm fine with Winslow, WCS or Payne (Russell won't be there)

fishmike wrote:tough one... it would be nice to get a playmaker. A guy who can create easier offense for other players. That or a bigman... but I guess were picking from the best of the rest.

I see Winslow as a Caron Butler type. Good player.

I'd forgotten about Caron Butler- he was really good in his prime, I'd take that.

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:WCS is Robin Lopez 2.0..

Meh! I think that's underselling just how athletic WCS actually is. Of course they're very similar in terms of being defensive big men with limited offense, but I think WCS would be considered a much more talented Prospect. WCS has much more upside IMO. Robin has done pretty well given where he started. I think WCS can be a lot closer to what Tyson Chandler has been but with the chance to be better offensively.

He isn't worth the 4th pick..He won't be a difference maker like Lopez when Winslow has a much higher upside...

Maybe he is Nerlens Noel 2.0?

Noel athleticism looks much more coordinated...Noel had much better numbers at KU...9.5 boards 4.4 blks 2.1 stls for a first year player..Stein's first year numbers weren't even close...

He did have better numbers but who's to say that Stein didn't improve or will surpass Noel. I will say Noel was a better ball handler, his straight line drives were pretty good but I think Stein can get there and may become the better shooter. Plus, most 7ft goes look more awkawrd doing the same thing 6'9 or 6'10 players do for some reason.

I still don't want Stein at 4 I do think he is better than Lopez though because of his mobility and offensive rebounding potential.

blkexec wrote:

holfresh wrote:WCS is Robin Lopez 2.0..

Lopez
Melo
Winslow
Carroll
Gallo

I've been thinking about the same but with different players:

WCS
Melo
Carrol
Middleton
Gallo

Overpay for Carrol/Middleton and hope for the best.

OR

WCS
Milsap
Melo
Carrol
Gallo

OR

Alexis Ajinca
WCS
Melo
Carrol
Gallo