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newyorker4ever
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6/8/2015  8:46 PM
nixluva wrote:Interesting but I don't see Phil doing this unless there was more to the deal. Rubio has been somewhat of a disappointment and I can't imagine how Phil could sell this as the best use of his #4 pick.

I can almost guarantee that Phil would get more back then just Rubio for the 4th pick. He could just draft Mudiay if he wants a PG that can't shoot but can pass and have him on a rookie deal instead of 14/15 million per.
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6/8/2015  8:47 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i would love rubio, but not for the #4 pick. if we're taking rubio's contract, i want something else, or the swap of #1, like briggs and martin said. rubio is only 24 and i do think he will develop a better jumpshot, but that's just my opinion. rubio playing in the garden would be pretty special i think. yes, he doesn't fit the mold of pjax's past PG's in the triangle, but that's not to say that adjustments to the scheme can be made. we gotta work with this roster and i think adding rubio is a good start.

dude! that would be a good start?

that would be a monumental disaster!

perhaps i still like rubio's chances of rounding out his game more than others? i do think his speed and court vision are some of the best in the league, it just needs to be harnassed and he needs to develop a better shot. maybe he can, maybe he can't, i just think he eventually will, but like i said, just my opinion.

thats like trading for bargs because you just know that he is on the cusp of putting "it" all together

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/8/2015  8:47 PM
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i would love rubio, but not for the #4 pick. if we're taking rubio's contract, i want something else, or the swap of #1, like briggs and martin said. rubio is only 24 and i do think he will develop a better jumpshot, but that's just my opinion. rubio playing in the garden would be pretty special i think. yes, he doesn't fit the mold of pjax's past PG's in the triangle, but that's not to say that adjustments to the scheme can be made. we gotta work with this roster and i think adding rubio is a good start.

dude! that would be a good start?

that would be a monumental disaster!

What if it was rubio and the #1 for our #4 and whatever it takes....future #1?....multiple 2nd rounders....

I know Phil is a bone head rookie but anything dealing with Minn and rubio has to include Towns.

How is that for a deal?

They probably value the 4th pick....because they can pick a need....Mudiay. ...winslow....Stein.....while getting rid of rubios contract.

it depends on the future package.

right now, rubio is like jose but worse ... horrible contract, injury prone, disaster shooter (and I was his biggest fan ... what the hell do I know)

But if rubio brings towns....its a good trade for both.

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6/8/2015  8:47 PM
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i would love rubio, but not for the #4 pick. if we're taking rubio's contract, i want something else, or the swap of #1, like briggs and martin said. rubio is only 24 and i do think he will develop a better jumpshot, but that's just my opinion. rubio playing in the garden would be pretty special i think. yes, he doesn't fit the mold of pjax's past PG's in the triangle, but that's not to say that adjustments to the scheme can be made. we gotta work with this roster and i think adding rubio is a good start.

dude! that would be a good start?

that would be a monumental disaster!

perhaps i still like rubio's chances of rounding out his game more than others? i do think his speed and court vision are some of the best in the league, it just needs to be harnassed and he needs to develop a better shot. maybe he can, maybe he can't, i just think he eventually will, but like i said, just my opinion.

thats like trading for bargs because you just know that he is on the cusp of putting "it" all together

well im glad you have a crystal ball; you sound like nixluva. congrats on that.

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6/8/2015  8:48 PM
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i would love rubio, but not for the #4 pick. if we're taking rubio's contract, i want something else, or the swap of #1, like briggs and martin said. rubio is only 24 and i do think he will develop a better jumpshot, but that's just my opinion. rubio playing in the garden would be pretty special i think. yes, he doesn't fit the mold of pjax's past PG's in the triangle, but that's not to say that adjustments to the scheme can be made. we gotta work with this roster and i think adding rubio is a good start.

dude! that would be a good start?

that would be a monumental disaster!

What if it was rubio and the #1 for our #4 and whatever it takes....future #1?....multiple 2nd rounders....

I know Phil is a bone head rookie but anything dealing with Minn and rubio has to include Towns.

How is that for a deal?

They probably value the 4th pick....because they can pick a need....Mudiay. ...winslow....Stein.....while getting rid of rubios contract.

it depends on the future package.

right now, rubio is like jose but worse ... horrible contract, injury prone, disaster shooter (and I was his biggest fan ... what the hell do I know)

But if rubio brings towns....its a good trade for both.

at what price?

if its just a swap for our #4 (our #4 for #1 plus eat rubio) then I do it but not if Ok4 drops. Not a chance I would do it then.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/8/2015  8:49 PM
I am going to scream and go into rage mode if this happens.
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6/8/2015  8:56 PM
that would tell you how wolves vvalue rubio if they trading him for 4th pick
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6/8/2015  8:57 PM
jbeachboy wrote:that would tell you how wolves vvalue rubio if they trading him for 4th pick

maybe, but i wouldn't call the t'wolves the picture of a great franchise. they've made mistakes left and right. giving rubio that contract might be a mistake, but trading him might also might be a mistake. i just wouldn't use them as any sort of indicator.

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6/8/2015  9:32 PM
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Moonangie wrote:Chad Ford is about as idiotic as can be.

Not sure it's quite that simple.

To be a legit league insider for any of the pro sports, you need to have a relationship with GMs, scouts, agents, players, the players families, college coaches, key people with brands like Nike or Adidas, key people in these training academies like IMG, key people at various networks and then, of course, former players and the media in general.

To quid pro quo, you are expected to occasionally plant stories you know have no real traction in order to maintain and foster those relationships.

This isn't any different than a restaurant comping some meals for the guys who do deliveries for them, or maybe an electrician or mechanic, etc, etc.

I knew a doorman for a fairly upscale hotel. He could get you anything. Hookers. Drugs. Firearms. A taxi. Tickets to a sold out game. Best seat in a nice restaurant. In order to do what he did, he had to have a network around him, in order to maintain that network, he had to kiss a lot of babies, shake a lot of hands and give out a lot of free swag. In return, a lot of people had to take care of him to maintain his pipeline as well.

Chad Ford does a favor for Rubios agent to basically announce he wants to be traded. In exchange, maybe the agent gives him first hand news or gossip about franchise X or situation Y. The rest of the sports reporting industry doesn't care, it gives them something else to talk about.

Ever met a bartender who has never given out a free drink in his life?

Of course it makes no sense for the Knicks, but using the Knicks makes sense in a sad way because nothing too completely stupid from a personnel perspective could actually be put past them.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/4/8728319/ricky-rubio-trade-rumors-timberwolves

Ricky Rubio denies that his camp asked for a trade from the Timberwolves

You are 100% correct! Nothing to worry about, unless Phil looses his brains!

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6/8/2015  10:27 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:this article is so weak it doesnt even make sense to post

They forgot to add in they need to swap 1 for 4 if they want us to take on 55mm then Id do it.

Exactly

Rubio a perfect fit...smdh..but needs to work on his shot...lol

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6/8/2015  10:34 PM
If they also take Calderon I'll think about it...Rubio's contract is a horrendous deal..
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6/8/2015  10:35 PM
holfresh wrote:If they also take Calderon I'll think about it...Rubio's contract is a horrendous deal..

so our #4 and Calderon for Rubio and you would have to think?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/8/2015  10:43 PM
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holfresh wrote:If they also take Calderon I'll think about it...Rubio's contract is a horrendous deal..

so our #4 and Calderon for Rubio and you would have to think?


Rubio and Towns..Rubio will be making close to 15 mil per in 2018/19..We won't have friendly contracts, we are going to need all our cap space..
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6/8/2015  10:56 PM
If this trade went down I wouldn't be a Knicks fan anymore. Well because my head would explode.

Seriously this is THE STUPIDEST trade I think I've ever seen proposed under the guise of a serious news report. Can Jackson be so dumb as to actually ponder this deal? As bad as some of his moves where I have a hard time believing he would consider something so blatantly dumb. We get a PG who can't shoot who is injury prone and all in all a massive disappoint for our only lottery pick for th next 2 years? Sure! Sign me up!

Seriously I'm done if this deal goes down. I wouldn't be able to handle it.

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6/8/2015  11:03 PM
Rubio and Kemba are up there for the NBA's worst contract award.
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6/8/2015  11:19 PM
My assumption of how Chad Ford gets his "Stories" - an agent takes Chad out and gets him drunk, writes **** down on napkins, shoves said **** in Chad's pockets. Chad wakes up, checks his pockets, writes story.
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6/8/2015  11:55 PM
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i would love rubio, but not for the #4 pick. if we're taking rubio's contract, i want something else, or the swap of #1, like briggs and martin said. rubio is only 24 and i do think he will develop a better jumpshot, but that's just my opinion. rubio playing in the garden would be pretty special i think. yes, he doesn't fit the mold of pjax's past PG's in the triangle, but that's not to say that adjustments to the scheme can be made. we gotta work with this roster and i think adding rubio is a good start.

dude! that would be a good start?

that would be a monumental disaster!

What if it was rubio and the #1 for our #4 and whatever it takes....future #1?....multiple 2nd rounders....

I know Phil is a bone head rookie but anything dealing with Minn and rubio has to include Towns.

How is that for a deal?

They probably value the 4th pick....because they can pick a need....Mudiay. ...winslow....Stein.....while getting rid of rubios contract.

it depends on the future package.

right now, rubio is like jose but worse ... horrible contract, injury prone, disaster shooter (and I was his biggest fan ... what the hell do I know)

But if rubio brings towns....its a good trade for both.

There is no way Minnesota gives up the top pick simply to ditch Rubios contract. That's a very nice dream, but a dream nonetheless.

Think about it if Minny wanted to ditch Rubio they could do it at a much lesser cost than giving up the top pick in the friggin draft. I doubt they care that Towns is a "east coast guy". That is irrelevant he isn't a RFA or have any leverage due to an impending free agency where they may lose him for nothing and a player gets leverage to force a trade. He a rookie totally at the behest of the team that picks him. Aka Minnesota. If they were to do this deal with NY I'd pinch myself to wake up.

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6/8/2015  11:56 PM

Ok, swap picks and we eat the contract, he takes 1,000 jumpers a day then we talk.
Otherwise its sounds like nonsense.
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6/9/2015  12:23 AM
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i would love rubio, but not for the #4 pick. if we're taking rubio's contract, i want something else, or the swap of #1, like briggs and martin said. rubio is only 24 and i do think he will develop a better jumpshot, but that's just my opinion. rubio playing in the garden would be pretty special i think. yes, he doesn't fit the mold of pjax's past PG's in the triangle, but that's not to say that adjustments to the scheme can be made. we gotta work with this roster and i think adding rubio is a good start.

dude! that would be a good start?

that would be a monumental disaster!

Well, if a pick swap is offered, I will take Rubio AND Towns. Otherwise, it's ridiculous. But if they want to dump that salary, it's a bargain. Towns is THAT good.

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6/9/2015  12:27 AM
H1AND1 wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i would love rubio, but not for the #4 pick. if we're taking rubio's contract, i want something else, or the swap of #1, like briggs and martin said. rubio is only 24 and i do think he will develop a better jumpshot, but that's just my opinion. rubio playing in the garden would be pretty special i think. yes, he doesn't fit the mold of pjax's past PG's in the triangle, but that's not to say that adjustments to the scheme can be made. we gotta work with this roster and i think adding rubio is a good start.

dude! that would be a good start?

that would be a monumental disaster!

What if it was rubio and the #1 for our #4 and whatever it takes....future #1?....multiple 2nd rounders....

I know Phil is a bone head rookie but anything dealing with Minn and rubio has to include Towns.

How is that for a deal?

They probably value the 4th pick....because they can pick a need....Mudiay. ...winslow....Stein.....while getting rid of rubios contract.

it depends on the future package.

right now, rubio is like jose but worse ... horrible contract, injury prone, disaster shooter (and I was his biggest fan ... what the hell do I know)

But if rubio brings towns....its a good trade for both.

There is no way Minnesota gives up the top pick simply to ditch Rubios contract. That's a very nice dream, but a dream nonetheless.

Think about it if Minny wanted to ditch Rubio they could do it at a much lesser cost than giving up the top pick in the friggin draft. I doubt they care that Towns is a "east coast guy". That is irrelevant he isn't a RFA or have any leverage due to an impending free agency where they may lose him for nothing and a player gets leverage to force a trade. He a rookie totally at the behest of the team that picks him. Aka Minnesota. If they were to do this deal with NY I'd pinch myself to wake up.

I think the point is that they get rid of Rubio AND get the player they really want @ #4. It's a win-win that way. Rubio's deal is caca, but if we get Towns, it's not THAT much worse than Calderon, and we have our guy. I'd even sweeten it with a future 2nd rounder or even throw in THjr.

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