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Report: Heat offered Dwyane Wade under $10 million per season
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yellowboy90
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6/2/2015  10:16 PM
Wade and Melo would have to convince Love. Its the revenge on Lebron.
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6/2/2015  11:07 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

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6/2/2015  11:08 PM
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

yeah ... what kind of douche gets hurt when his team needs him.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/2/2015  11:31 PM
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

yeah ... what kind of douche gets hurt when his team needs him.


Well before the injury, dude checked out..
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6/2/2015  11:34 PM
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

yeah ... what kind of douche gets hurt when his team needs him.


Well before the injury, dude checked out..

checked out of what?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/2/2015  11:36 PM
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

yeah ... what kind of douche gets hurt when his team needs him.


Well before the injury, dude checked out..

checked out of what?

Ok ..play stupid..Who was Bron talking to when he said "stop trying to fit out and just fit in"?

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6/2/2015  11:40 PM
crzymdups wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Did he terminate those two years and take less so the Heat could have more flexibility this year?

If true, that would mean he took less to be with the big three, and then gave up $10M over two years to help the Heat.

And now they would low ball him?

So much for loyalty.

I believe he opted out last off-season so they'd have flexibility to retain Lebron at a higher level. When Bron left, Wade took less so they could Max Bosh and add Deng. The assumption was that Riley would take care of him on the back end. Knicks fans can tell Wade how that last part works out.

Yeah he got taken care of on the back end, all right..

Zing! At least he didn't fax it to him

This falls under "When I call it a game you call it a business, when I call it a business you call it a game."

I call it back stabbing- Wade recruited, took less and then took less again.


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6/2/2015  11:44 PM
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.

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6/2/2015  11:49 PM
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

yeah ... what kind of douche gets hurt when his team needs him.


Well before the injury, dude checked out..

Lebron is quick to point fingers but maybe Love should have checked out and taken a two week vacay in Miami. "Attitude reflects leadership".

Also, that Love slump was like two months before the injury.

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6/2/2015  11:56 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.


Don't get me wrong, I'll take Love in a heartbeat..But I was really puzzled why he didn't step up on Cleveland..I think Aldridge is a better player..He is much more aggressive..You need a guy who can get his own shots and not be submissive to Melo..But as you say, we do need range..
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6/3/2015  12:10 AM
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
mreinman wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

yeah ... what kind of douche gets hurt when his team needs him.


Well before the injury, dude checked out..

checked out of what?

Ok ..play stupid..Who was Bron talking to when he said "stop trying to fit out and just fit in"?

ah so that meant "no heart"

sorry ... not used to this old school talk

Love had a good year on cleveland even if it was not as good as in previous years when he was the man. He missed lots of wide open shots that he usually hits and still was efficient just not as efficient.

Cleveland run and chuck offense does not really suit him that well.

his per 36: 17.5 and 10.4 are still very good and his 56.2 TS was good.

No heart? c'mon ... leave that crap at home.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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6/3/2015  12:41 AM
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.


Don't get me wrong, I'll take Love in a heartbeat..But I was really puzzled why he didn't step up on Cleveland..I think Aldridge is a better player..He is much more aggressive..You need a guy who can get his own shots and not be submissive to Melo..But as you say, we do need range..

Well, its hard to be effective surrounded by two ball dominating players. Chris Bosh warned people what it takes to be a 3rd fiddle with Lebron. Bosh was getting trashed that 1st year and only received praise when he stepped up in the 2nd yr playoff run. If you put Aldridge between Irving/Wade and Lebron I think you would see and even worse contribution than Love gave.

I do understand your hesitations with Love but for all of Aldridge's aggressiveness he only manage to score 7 more points on 7 shots in a down Love year.

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6/3/2015  2:53 AM
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Did he terminate those two years and take less so the Heat could have more flexibility this year?

If true, that would mean he took less to be with the big three, and then gave up $10M over two years to help the Heat.

And now they would low ball him?

So much for loyalty.

I believe he opted out last off-season so they'd have flexibility to retain Lebron at a higher level. When Bron left, Wade took less so they could Max Bosh and add Deng. The assumption was that Riley would take care of him on the back end. Knicks fans can tell Wade how that last part works out.

Yeah he got taken care of on the back end, all right..

Ha ha!

I still find it hard to believe the Heat would screw him like this- He has been their cornerstone for years, he got them multiple championships, he sacrificed money twice to help them win- there's no way they screw him over.

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6/3/2015  2:56 AM
One thing is, if true, I hope this puts a stop to players being criticised for trying to sign for the most money possible over winning, and this new found expectation that they should sacrifice millions of dollars so their team can sign more players.
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6/3/2015  7:58 AM
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.


Don't get me wrong, I'll take Love in a heartbeat..But I was really puzzled why he didn't step up on Cleveland..I think Aldridge is a better player..He is much more aggressive..You need a guy who can get his own shots and not be submissive to Melo..But as you say, we do need range..

At the max? I'm shocked to hear you say that.
I think Cleveland was a really bad fit for him. He can do so much on offense but they didn't use his strengths. I don't think a 3rd option behind Irving and Love would ever be highly productive - not beyond mid teens PPG.
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6/3/2015  8:03 AM
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.


Don't get me wrong, I'll take Love in a heartbeat..But I was really puzzled why he didn't step up on Cleveland..I think Aldridge is a better player..He is much more aggressive..You need a guy who can get his own shots and not be submissive to Melo..But as you say, we do need range..

it amazes me that the same guys that constantly rip the **** out of melo are quick to defend love. that seriously makes no sense to me.

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6/3/2015  8:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/3/2015  8:29 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.


Don't get me wrong, I'll take Love in a heartbeat..But I was really puzzled why he didn't step up on Cleveland..I think Aldridge is a better player..He is much more aggressive..You need a guy who can get his own shots and not be submissive to Melo..But as you say, we do need range..

it amazes me that the same guys that constantly rip the **** out of melo are quick to defend love. that seriously makes no sense to me.


If you look at the metrics, you will understand. You may not agree with it, but it should not be confusing or make no sense. There's probably only one person here rips the **** out of Melo, but I take your comment as an exaggeration anyway.
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6/3/2015  8:29 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.


Don't get me wrong, I'll take Love in a heartbeat..But I was really puzzled why he didn't step up on Cleveland..I think Aldridge is a better player..He is much more aggressive..You need a guy who can get his own shots and not be submissive to Melo..But as you say, we do need range..

it amazes me that the same guys that constantly rip the **** out of melo are quick to defend love. that seriously makes no sense to me.


If you look at the metrics, you will understand. You may not agree with it, but it should not be confusing or make no sense.

thanks bonn3pO

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6/3/2015  8:29 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
holfresh wrote:Wade, Aldridge and Melo....Add Stein in the middle...Maybe groom Winslow to spell Wade..I'm going to let that play for a while in my head...

no to aldridge but yes to kevin love. They need more range an not another midrange player plus Love's passing is better.

They do need more range..Love has no heart..

I disagree but I know your stance. As players there really is not anything Aldridge can do better than Love except shoot Fts and play slightly better D. The Fts kind of become even since Love usually gets to the line at a higer rate than Aldrige. I also like that Love is younger and lets remember Aldridge perception before Lillard.


Don't get me wrong, I'll take Love in a heartbeat..But I was really puzzled why he didn't step up on Cleveland..I think Aldridge is a better player..He is much more aggressive..You need a guy who can get his own shots and not be submissive to Melo..But as you say, we do need range..

it amazes me that the same guys that constantly rip the **** out of melo are quick to defend love. that seriously makes no sense to me.


If you look at the metrics, you will understand. You may not agree with it, but it should not be confusing or make no sense.

thanks bonn3pO


I'm just trying to help the confused
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6/3/2015  8:32 AM
That said, I would never ever give Love the largest contract in the league (and certainly not with a no-trade clause).
Report: Heat offered Dwyane Wade under $10 million per season

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