yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I think the Knicks were looking for a unique big small/power forward to play next to Melo. I think Grunwald was hoping Leslie and Bargs would be those guys. Porzingis might fill that role.

Draft Miles Turner. Rim protection, rebounding, and 3pt shooting.

Turner would be great. Four seems a bit high for Turner.

Way too high based on projections but if you want a big that can do all the things Phil has mentioned offensively and defensively he fits the bill more than anyone outside of Towns.

The problem with him is his awkwardness. He looks stiff in the lower body and he runs with a weird gate. Draftexpress has a great write up on him and I think it was diagnose that he has weak gluts but it's easily correctable.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Human-Movement-Science-and-the-NBA-Draft-and-Myles-Turner--4961

I have seen people complain about the way he was used at Texas as being a reason why he underperform. A lot of people like to look at H.S. rankings and I believe he was ranked ahead of Towns. So, if you are into that, that's something you can hang on to.

I personally, want the knicks to try to trade back and go after him. I really feel Charlotte would give up major compensation for pick 4. They could use Stein, Winslow, or Mudiay and their F.O. is not known for being the smartest bunch. Anyone who gives Kemba 12m have issues.

If I got 2 number 1s with very light restriction and Kaminsky from Charlotte--I would bite.

Forget Kaminsky, I'll do it for pick swap, 39th pick, and Noah Vonleh or a future 1st.

Nah I want to walk out of the draft with either Kaminsky Porzingis or Winslow up top. The trade down is VERY attractive if two number 1's come with it.

To each there own but Kaminsky, Porzingis, and Winslow are all about the same as Winslow to me. Turner and Winslow are the only one of those two that give you a defensive presence and Turner is a big body which phil wants so he wins the "tie"

Myles Turner is much more of a project at this point than the other 3.

Nope, I disagree.

Well he's no where near Kaminsky. Porzingis was the Euro rising star and played against men. He played a great game against FC Barcelona which beat an NBA team before and his team won the Eurocup. Winslow won a NC was one of the main cogs. Myles played very spotty year 1 on a team that severely under achieved. He had an awkward gate he played very hot and cold and against better teams he was very quiet. And then on the other side he has the physical nature with his skills to be a top 3 player in this draft--But as of now hes far behind these 3 guys. JMHO.

It gives us 1 big maybe the lengthiest player to come out for the 4-5 in many years.

It gives us a very good prospect for PG who uses both hands is well built and nearly 6-5

It gives us an under rated 3-D player who was the best athlete at the combine who shot 42.5 with volume 3's this year played great D and was one of the best 2g rebounders in CBB with a great fame 6-5 220

BRIGGS wrote:I like this draft

It gives us 1 big maybe the lengthiest player to come out for the 4-5 in many years.

It gives us a very good prospect for PG who uses both hands is well built and nearly 6-5

It gives us an under rated 3-D player who was the best athlete at the combine who shot 42.5 with volume 3's this year played great D and was one of the best 2g rebounders in CBB with a great fame 6-5 220

BRIGGS, you liked Hezonja for a while but seem to have cooled on him- what happened?

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I like this draft

It gives us 1 big maybe the lengthiest player to come out for the 4-5 in many years.

It gives us a very good prospect for PG who uses both hands is well built and nearly 6-5

It gives us an under rated 3-D player who was the best athlete at the combine who shot 42.5 with volume 3's this year played great D and was one of the best 2g rebounders in CBB with a great fame 6-5 220

BRIGGS, you liked Hezonja for a while but seem to have cooled on him- what happened?

I think there are 7-8 player who are really good in the top 10 or so but the best choice for us is a big. Saying you like 5-6 players or in this draft 12-14--you could be right on all of them. But the one's that matter are the one's that make most sense for our ballclub. I think for the last 3 months we've kind of had the mind set for the most part(or atleast me) was Okafor ?Towns than bang neither. So your thought process has to start all over. I really like Kamnisky but Ill concede that Porzingis may have more upside and may over time be able to morph towards the 5 while he starts his NBA career at the 4. He plays with men who have played in the NBA and he has played very well. Nothing against Mudaiy Russell or anyone else--I just think for the KNicks--we need a C/PF more than a PG. I think Ive found a PG who we can get in the 20's who has similar upside to Mudaiy and might just be a better player. I jsut learned of him 2 days ago.

Man, this draft is tough- I keep changing my mind day to day

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I like this draft

It gives us 1 big maybe the lengthiest player to come out for the 4-5 in many years.

It gives us a very good prospect for PG who uses both hands is well built and nearly 6-5

It gives us an under rated 3-D player who was the best athlete at the combine who shot 42.5 with volume 3's this year played great D and was one of the best 2g rebounders in CBB with a great fame 6-5 220

BRIGGS, you liked Hezonja for a while but seem to have cooled on him- what happened?

I think there are 7-8 player who are really good in the top 10 or so but the best choice for us is a big. Saying you like 5-6 players or in this draft 12-14--you could be right on all of them. But the one's that matter are the one's that make most sense for our ballclub. I think for the last 3 months we've kind of had the mind set for the most part(or atleast me) was Okafor ?Towns than bang neither. So your thought process has to start all over. I really like Kamnisky but Ill concede that Porzingis may have more upside and may over time be able to morph towards the 5 while he starts his NBA career at the 4. He plays with men who have played in the NBA and he has played very well. Nothing against Mudaiy Russell or anyone else--I just think for the KNicks--we need a C/PF more than a PG. I think Ive found a PG who we can get in the 20's who has similar upside to Mudaiy and might just be a better player. I jsut learned of him 2 days ago.

Man, this draft is tough- I keep changing my mind day to day

It took a couple of weeks but I think I have it down staright

1A Porzingis
1B Kamnisky
2A Winslow

Forget the PG's

Phil go get us another pick in the 20s and take Fuzaro--he can be our back up PG and he can play right away no issues.
Finally we need our own 3-D and I think Connaghuton is perfect because he also brings defense rebounding passing to the table.

This set up is perfect in my own opinion. There is no real pressure on any player but all should be able to help in year 1 right off the bat. Taking one of these PGs the expectation levels is going to be immense and leaves us still thin in the frontcourt. How many chances to you get at a guy like Porzinigs? No many.

I'm going to try and get you back on to considering Hezonja

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I like this draft

It gives us 1 big maybe the lengthiest player to come out for the 4-5 in many years.

It gives us a very good prospect for PG who uses both hands is well built and nearly 6-5

It gives us an under rated 3-D player who was the best athlete at the combine who shot 42.5 with volume 3's this year played great D and was one of the best 2g rebounders in CBB with a great fame 6-5 220

BRIGGS, you liked Hezonja for a while but seem to have cooled on him- what happened?

I think there are 7-8 player who are really good in the top 10 or so but the best choice for us is a big. Saying you like 5-6 players or in this draft 12-14--you could be right on all of them. But the one's that matter are the one's that make most sense for our ballclub. I think for the last 3 months we've kind of had the mind set for the most part(or atleast me) was Okafor ?Towns than bang neither. So your thought process has to start all over. I really like Kamnisky but Ill concede that Porzingis may have more upside and may over time be able to morph towards the 5 while he starts his NBA career at the 4. He plays with men who have played in the NBA and he has played very well. Nothing against Mudaiy Russell or anyone else--I just think for the KNicks--we need a C/PF more than a PG. I think Ive found a PG who we can get in the 20's who has similar upside to Mudaiy and might just be a better player. I jsut learned of him 2 days ago.

Man, this draft is tough- I keep changing my mind day to day

It took a couple of weeks but I think I have it down staright

1A Porzingis
1B Kamnisky
2A Winslow

Forget the PG's

Phil go get us another pick in the 20s and take Fuzaro--he can be our back up PG and he can play right away no issues.
Finally we need our own 3-D and I think Connaghuton is perfect because he also brings defense rebounding passing to the table.

This set up is perfect in my own opinion. There is no real pressure on any player but all should be able to help in year 1 right off the bat. Taking one of these PGs the expectation levels is going to be immense and leaves us still thin in the frontcourt. How many chances to you get at a guy like Porzinigs? No many.

We need to draft the BPA period... and I happen to think at 4 it'll be Mudiay by far... kid is nice man, I dont see how one can watch his high school and CBA clips and put him below Porzingis and Kaminsky and Winslow. Porzingis is just awkward do we really wanna use the #4 pick on him? Kaminsky had nice games at the end but is he really #4 material? Same thing with Winslow finished well but is he worth #4? I think Mudiay even in the limited clips of him there is something truly special there and I'd rather take a risk in him then take these other three guys who if were in another year with a strong draft more like #7-10. I think after Towns, OK4, Russell and Mudiay there is a big drop in talent. Actually I believe Towns, Russell and Mudiay will be franchise players... im not a fan of Okafor.