Williams isn't great at anything but sure if he'll take a min deal take a flier on him. But not one cent more.

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Derrick Williams is a bust. For some reason it takes a couple years for the predraft "upside" hype shine to wear off these guys as it's tempting to think they just need the right situation/coach/city/offense/depth chart position to finally break out and become an all star (Anthony Randolph? Remember him?).

Williams isn't great at anything but sure if he'll take a min deal take a flier on him. But not one cent more.

Can you describe to me how he looks like a bust?He looks like he gives good effort can play well above the rim has at least reasonable bb iq good form on his hand can handle. Go back and tell me demarre Carroll's stats st 23. It will cost teams 10-12 mm for DC it will cost 2-3 mm for Williams. You can't have everyone making 10m and calling someone a bust at 23 is ludicrous

Ok let me reiterate he is a bust as a 2nd overall pick. He's never gonna be a star. He'll be a vet min player is what I mean. A guy who comes in 5-10 min a game who does a couple things well enough to be generally useful at the end of the bench.

His problems: He is a tweener and he has to be a small ball of Cause he cannot play out on the wings due to having no jump shot or 3 pt shot (31%). He's not a good rebounder or shot blocker or passer. Basically he can score on fast breaks or in the post playing PF and dunking and that's it.

And id rather have Carrol yes even at a higher price because Carrol is actually WORTH $10 mil or so even at his "old" age of what 28? 29? Especially since salaries will skyrocket in a couple years. Carroll will go right back to being a bargain. So like i said, Carroll is a great defender, hits the three at 40% and has generally worked his ass off to become a versatile 2 way wing which you have to pay for in the NBA.

Derrick Williams is a one dimensional guy who happens to have a lot of untapped upside and its unlikely he'll ever realize it since he doesn't even show flashes of anything besides stuff we already know he is good at, like dunking. He sucks on D why hasn't he worked hard to improve there? He just doesn't have the mentality or drive to get better IMO. Aka a bust.

If im wrong and this guy develops into a above average player feel free to bump this and rub in my Face how wrong I was. I just don't see it watching the guy. But hey maybe he turns it around.

callmened wrote:when carroll was drafted there wasnt much expected of him. alot was expected from dwilliams as a lottery pick.

2nd - dwill is still young and has time to improve. but carroll thru out the years worked hard and improved. one cant expect every athlete to have that hunger (i.e. jeremy tyler). one cant assume that williams will improve or even work hard. therefore i cant compare the two at a younger age because one might have more hunger than the other

Carroll can make the case that he wasn't given many opportunities early in his career. He was a second round pick and people figured he'd be out the league in a few years. Derrick Williams has been given every opportunity to succeed and he hasn't shown any improvement. I'm not saying Williams can't turn it around, but the clock is ticking. And he better be happy with a minimum deal.