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Knicks have serious developmental issues...that's the main thing that needs to change
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fishmike
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5/19/2015  12:32 PM
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Nalod wrote:Langston named to 2nd team all rookie! 1st knick to go undraftedd to be named.
Since we trade them, its no surprise.

Not a franchise defining moment but "Thats the main thing that needs to change"......

dude, its changing!


We have had 4 players named all rookie in the past 5 years. It changes when we help that player take the next step. That was the whole point of the thread.
which one of those players do you think the Knicks failed to groom to the next level???

Well Fields, Shumpert, and Hardaway all performed their best on the offensive end in their rookie seasons. There are always exceptions, but that generally shouldn't happen. Players should improve from their rookie years.
well Fields got hurt. Shump is always hurt and has always been very streaky. I mean he shot 50% for awhile to start the season than went back to his more normal 4-12 type shooting nights. I dont think Hardaway is very good period. Its a dangerous assumption to expect all these guys to improve.

We will find out soon enogh though... its a very young roster and we are drafting a blue chip player so time will tell.

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5/19/2015  12:43 PM
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Nalod wrote:Langston named to 2nd team all rookie! 1st knick to go undraftedd to be named.
Since we trade them, its no surprise.

Not a franchise defining moment but "Thats the main thing that needs to change"......

dude, its changing!


We have had 4 players named all rookie in the past 5 years. It changes when we help that player take the next step. That was the whole point of the thread.
which one of those players do you think the Knicks failed to groom to the next level???

Well Fields, Shumpert, and Hardaway all performed their best on the offensive end in their rookie seasons. There are always exceptions, but that generally shouldn't happen. Players should improve from their rookie years.
well Fields got hurt. Shump is always hurt and has always been very streaky. I mean he shot 50% for awhile to start the season than went back to his more normal 4-12 type shooting nights. I dont think Hardaway is very good period. Its a dangerous assumption to expect all these guys to improve.

We will find out soon enogh though... its a very young roster and we are drafting a blue chip player so time will tell.


It is dangerous to expect them all to improve, but not even one of them? All of them were best as rookies? That's called a trend, not a one-off.
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5/19/2015  1:05 PM
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Nalod wrote:Langston named to 2nd team all rookie! 1st knick to go undraftedd to be named.
Since we trade them, its no surprise.

Not a franchise defining moment but "Thats the main thing that needs to change"......

dude, its changing!


We have had 4 players named all rookie in the past 5 years. It changes when we help that player take the next step. That was the whole point of the thread.
which one of those players do you think the Knicks failed to groom to the next level???

Well Fields, Shumpert, and Hardaway all performed their best on the offensive end in their rookie seasons. There are always exceptions, but that generally shouldn't happen. Players should improve from their rookie years.
well Fields got hurt. Shump is always hurt and has always been very streaky. I mean he shot 50% for awhile to start the season than went back to his more normal 4-12 type shooting nights. I dont think Hardaway is very good period. Its a dangerous assumption to expect all these guys to improve.

We will find out soon enogh though... its a very young roster and we are drafting a blue chip player so time will tell.


It is dangerous to expect them all to improve, but not even one of them? All of them were best as rookies? That's called a trend, not a one-off.

You realize that we're talking about different GM's and coaching regime's. It's really hard to group them all together. The young players we have now still have a chance to improve. Hopefully that is this coming season. It's not realistic to expect every prospect to be great but hopefully we'll get a few guys who can become productive rotation players.

Knicks have serious developmental issues...that's the main thing that needs to change

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