mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

You are copping out by constantly angling to Melo..This is not a Melo discussion...

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

you're saying that a guy who gets fouled while trying to shoot should have that count as an attempt?!?

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

You are copping out by constantly angling to Melo..This is not a Melo discussion...

of course it is ...

you can't have a retarded standard.

I call out Harden when he has a bad game or a bad series. He was BAD last year.

You make constant excuses for a guy you like and find excuses to reverse the same arguments against a guy that you don't like

Everything is in play.

Again, your arguments would get crushed in court.

Not counting FT's? Dude really?? The guy went to the lane 18 times today and you make it out to be almost meaningless? Ask Doc Rivers how silly that is. Do you know how many times those free throws stunted a run by LAC?

Oh and lets not forget that the guy shoots almost 95% from the line but who cares! ITS CHEATING!

C'mon man you can do SOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

they both had mediocre TS% so you might say they cancelled each other out. the real glaring problem was jamal crawford. he really hurt the clippers on both ends.

Game was long over before Jamal starting jacking up shots because no one else was helping CP3...57% is a great shooting night..

crawford came in with his team down by 1 and while he was in the lead grew to 7.
crawford continues to play halfway thru the second quarter as the lead balloons to 15.
crawford leaves the game and the clippers narrow the deficit to 8.
crawford finishes the half on the court as the lead goes back to 10.
crawford is on the bench for the start of 2nd half as the clippers get within 3 but then fall back by 8.
crawford enters the game halfway thru the 3rd with his team down 8 and stays in while they go down 17.
crawford leaves the game halfway thru the 4th with the team down 18.

so, no... jamal crawford hurt his team throughout the game and was on the floor the two times the rockets put a lot of distance between themselves and the clippers.

That game was bigger than Jamal Crawford...

Let me guess ... you really like Jamal and you want to give him a free pass?

He stunk and his defense always stinks.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

they both had mediocre TS% so you might say they cancelled each other out. the real glaring problem was jamal crawford. he really hurt the clippers on both ends.

Game was long over before Jamal starting jacking up shots because no one else was helping CP3...57% is a great shooting night..

crawford came in with his team down by 1 and while he was in the lead grew to 7.
crawford continues to play halfway thru the second quarter as the lead balloons to 15.
crawford leaves the game and the clippers narrow the deficit to 8.
crawford finishes the half on the court as the lead goes back to 10.
crawford is on the bench for the start of 2nd half as the clippers get within 3 but then fall back by 8.
crawford enters the game halfway thru the 3rd with his team down 8 and stays in while they go down 17.
crawford leaves the game halfway thru the 4th with the team down 18.

so, no... jamal crawford hurt his team throughout the game and was on the floor the two times the rockets put a lot of distance between themselves and the clippers.

That game was bigger than Jamal Crawford...

Let me guess ... you really like Jamal and you want to give him a free pass?

He stunk and his defense always stinks.

Who gives a flying sh!t about Crawford...No one played with heart except Paul..You guys are pinning the loss on a bench guy???

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

You are copping out by constantly angling to Melo..This is not a Melo discussion...

of course it is ...

you can't have a retarded standard.

I call out Harden when he has a bad game or a bad series. He was BAD last year.

You make constant excuses for a guy you like and find excuses to reverse the same arguments against a guy that you don't like

Everything is in play.

Again, your arguments would get crushed in court.

Not counting FT's? Dude really?? The guy went to the lane 18 times today and you make it out to be almost meaningless? Ask Doc Rivers how silly that is. Do you know how many times those free throws stunted a run by LAC?

Oh and lets not forget that the guy shoots almost 95% from the line but who cares! ITS CHEATING!

C'mon man you can do SOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS

I forgot..This is UK..All threads come under one banner..Melo...My bad...

Double Standard in the worst way ... you can try weaseling out of it by trying to play the poor Melo card but my argument still holds.

how about arguing the point.

You can't have it both ways.

If you want to say that you have a Melo bias and we should leave him out of it then that is fine but at least admit it.

I hold Melo to the same standard as everyone else. Whats excuses for him are excuses for everyone else and vice versa.

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

they both had mediocre TS% so you might say they cancelled each other out. the real glaring problem was jamal crawford. he really hurt the clippers on both ends.

Game was long over before Jamal starting jacking up shots because no one else was helping CP3...57% is a great shooting night..

crawford came in with his team down by 1 and while he was in the lead grew to 7.
crawford continues to play halfway thru the second quarter as the lead balloons to 15.
crawford leaves the game and the clippers narrow the deficit to 8.
crawford finishes the half on the court as the lead goes back to 10.
crawford is on the bench for the start of 2nd half as the clippers get within 3 but then fall back by 8.
crawford enters the game halfway thru the 3rd with his team down 8 and stays in while they go down 17.
crawford leaves the game halfway thru the 4th with the team down 18.

so, no... jamal crawford hurt his team throughout the game and was on the floor the two times the rockets put a lot of distance between themselves and the clippers.

That game was bigger than Jamal Crawford...

Let me guess ... you really like Jamal and you want to give him a free pass?

He stunk and his defense always stinks.

Who gives a flying sh!t about Crawford...No one played with heart except Paul..You guys are pinning the loss on a bench guy???

Didn't I start this thread by stating that the soft PF went to the line only twice to day and hit one FT in a game 7?

Crawford was a much bigger reason of why they lost tonight then Griffin. They got stuck on the famine side of a non defending chucker.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

You are copping out by constantly angling to Melo..This is not a Melo discussion...

of course it is ...

you can't have a retarded standard.

I call out Harden when he has a bad game or a bad series. He was BAD last year.

You make constant excuses for a guy you like and find excuses to reverse the same arguments against a guy that you don't like

Everything is in play.

Again, your arguments would get crushed in court.

Not counting FT's? Dude really?? The guy went to the lane 18 times today and you make it out to be almost meaningless? Ask Doc Rivers how silly that is. Do you know how many times those free throws stunted a run by LAC?

Oh and lets not forget that the guy shoots almost 95% from the line but who cares! ITS CHEATING!

C'mon man you can do SOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS

I forgot..This is UK..All threads come under one banner..Melo...My bad...

Double Standard in the worst way ... you can try weaseling out of it by trying to play the poor Melo card but my argument still holds.

how about arguing the point.

You can't have it both ways.

If you want to say that you have a Melo bias and we should leave him out of it then that is fine but at least admit it.

I hold Melo to the same standard as everyone else. Whats excuses for him are excuses for everyone else and vice versa.

Double standard in what way???..You are making a stupid argument that 57% shooting isn't really good..Melo's name is brought in as an attempted distraction/diversion...

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

you're saying that a guy who gets fouled while trying to shoot should have that count as an attempt?!?

I'm saying the reason he got to the foul line is that he was attempting to shoot..

and when that attempt is somehow thwarted or altered by contact that it should still count as a real attempt? and what about the points he scores from the line? do they not count as real points?

Whether or not the stat man decides to count fouls as shot attempts should not be the point..What actually happens is what actually happened...You guys are bowing to a stat that holds ft makes at a higher value than a regular make...You are rationalizing it by saying I'm scoring points and not really attempting a shot..But that's not really true is it??

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

You are copping out by constantly angling to Melo..This is not a Melo discussion...

of course it is ...

you can't have a retarded standard.

I call out Harden when he has a bad game or a bad series. He was BAD last year.

You make constant excuses for a guy you like and find excuses to reverse the same arguments against a guy that you don't like

Everything is in play.

Again, your arguments would get crushed in court.

Not counting FT's? Dude really?? The guy went to the lane 18 times today and you make it out to be almost meaningless? Ask Doc Rivers how silly that is. Do you know how many times those free throws stunted a run by LAC?

Oh and lets not forget that the guy shoots almost 95% from the line but who cares! ITS CHEATING!

C'mon man you can do SOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS

I forgot..This is UK..All threads come under one banner..Melo...My bad...

Double Standard in the worst way ... you can try weaseling out of it by trying to play the poor Melo card but my argument still holds.

how about arguing the point.

You can't have it both ways.

If you want to say that you have a Melo bias and we should leave him out of it then that is fine but at least admit it.

I hold Melo to the same standard as everyone else. Whats excuses for him are excuses for everyone else and vice versa.

Double standard in what way???..You are making a stupid argument that 57% shooting isn't really good..Melo's name is brought in as an attempted distraction/diversion...

the only one who is getting diverted is you because you can't answer for the ridiculous double standard.

it was not 57, it was 56 and my OP was about him going to the line only two times in a game 7. You happy with that? Prolly, cause you think FT's are stupid.

You prob didn't too well in math then....565 is 57 when rounded...I don't think fts are stupid..I think holding them at a higher value than a regular make as an offensive stat is stupid...

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Dude had 27 pts 11 boards and 6 asst..still didn't look like he was trying..

27 points on 23 shots is not really good.

he did make some very good passes.

still don't think they lost because of him though its easy to scapegoat him.

Reddick did not do much (offense or defense)
Crawford was bloody awful (on both ends)
austin rivers showed that he is a min player
matt barnes did zilch

right 13-23 isn't good but 7-20 is...thanks...Metrics told you shooting 57% isn't good huh...

I don't like 7 for 20 either. Harden did so many other things to make him extremely valuable even though his shot was off. THere was a reason that Ariza was wide open. Harden played a great game all around even though he had too many turnovers. He killed the clippers defense.

You really sound silly with this especially with you giving a pass for Melo who is not even remotely close. One day you will at least stand up and admit that its an illogical bias.

Harden missed a lot of shots and I would like to see him shoot better but the dude still finds away to be valuable and efficient enough even when he is off. His TS was 55.5 today. Griffins was 56.5 (which for Melo is a dream) but they needed a lot more from him.

You sound sillier saying a guy who shoots 57% isn't really good...But a guy scoring 31 pts on 29 attempts is good...

31 points on 20 shots (not 29) ... nice try though.

and, I never said that Harden shot well today. Again, nice try.

18 ft was because of 9 shot attempts they didn't count...

funny sh1t ... hahaha

In real terms not examining how any of us are looking at this from a statistical point of view..he made 29 attempts at scoring during game play that resulted in 31 points...That's real...Maybe we need another statistical column..Real Scoring...

if you want to choose to be on your own island and ignore FT's than your boy Melo is REALLY atrocious.

This is one of the most redeeming parts of his game ... but go ahead and wiggle out of that one.

You are copping out by constantly angling to Melo..This is not a Melo discussion...

of course it is ...

you can't have a retarded standard.

I call out Harden when he has a bad game or a bad series. He was BAD last year.

You make constant excuses for a guy you like and find excuses to reverse the same arguments against a guy that you don't like

Everything is in play.

Again, your arguments would get crushed in court.

Not counting FT's? Dude really?? The guy went to the lane 18 times today and you make it out to be almost meaningless? Ask Doc Rivers how silly that is. Do you know how many times those free throws stunted a run by LAC?

Oh and lets not forget that the guy shoots almost 95% from the line but who cares! ITS CHEATING!

C'mon man you can do SOOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS

I forgot..This is UK..All threads come under one banner..Melo...My bad...

Double Standard in the worst way ... you can try weaseling out of it by trying to play the poor Melo card but my argument still holds.

how about arguing the point.

You can't have it both ways.

If you want to say that you have a Melo bias and we should leave him out of it then that is fine but at least admit it.

I hold Melo to the same standard as everyone else. Whats excuses for him are excuses for everyone else and vice versa.

Double standard in what way???..You are making a stupid argument that 57% shooting isn't really good..Melo's name is brought in as an attempted distraction/diversion...

the only one who is getting diverted is you because you can't answer for the ridiculous double standard.

it was not 57, it was 56 and my OP was about him going to the line only two times in a game 7. You happy with that? Prolly, cause you think FT's are stupid.

You prob didn't too well in math then....565 is 57 when rounded...I don't think fts are stupid..I think holding them at a higher value than a regular make as an offensive stat is stupid...

I was taught to round down.

I said before that it was 56.5. You don't need to give yourself a boost by rounding it up to 57.

Why can't you just say 56.5?

I said 56 to see your response and sure enough, you knew it was 56.5 and not 57.

Honest and balanced reporting is all I asked LOL