Knicks need an experienced rim protector thats a true Center. No rookie Center is coming out of this draft and making us contenders. I don't see any of them having immediate impacts

Marc Gasol is most likely staying in Memphis. He's not young and very expensive which would leave us with less than 10mil to build. DeAndre Jordan just doesn't make sense. LaMarcus & Greg Monroe are power forwards and will also leave the Knicks with little room to build

The only Centers that are unrestricted that Knicks can get at a bargain is RoLo, Koufos, Ajinca, and Asik. IMO, Knicks should go after Koufos. Y'all should check out his per 36 numbers. He's a great rim protector that can average nearly 2 blocks per game, young, rugged, very mobile, got bounce, and is able to average a double x double as a starter. Most importantly, he's cheap. I'll take Ajinca as a backup over Aldrich for 1 mil.

The other unrestricted free agent the Knicks should go after at shooting guard is Danny Green IMO. He's a great defender, can shoot, and played in a system similar to the triangle. Wes Matthews injury concerns me and wouldn't be able to play till the end of the year.

Koufos, Danny, & Ajinca are worth about 15mil which would leave the Knicks about 11mil to spend. Knicks need an experienced power forward. What experienced power forwards are out there? Paul Millsap and Amir Johnson comes to mind. Anyone else? Amir seems to be cheep for about 8mil

I think Galloway is just fine as the Knicks starting pg. Shved could be a good backup.

koufos/ ajinca/ bachynski
amir / towns or kaminsky/ jsmith
melo/ lance/ early
danny/ hardaway/ thanasis
galloway/ shved / calderon

this is hard trying to figure this out

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I like all of those guys. Do you guys think a guy like Crowder would be better money spent than on DeMarre? I didn't think hs game would translate to the nba but I think he was the heart and soul of te celtics in the playoffs.

Carroll will cost 12-13mm
Koufus6-7mm
Schveyd 5-6 mm

I'd rather lose more games..

I'd like to see the point upgraded with a legit NBA PG--I'd rather throw the $10-13mm at Cory Joseph (or slightly more than half that amount at Jeremy Lin) over DeMarre Carroll. Bringing back Alexey Shved is a priority as well. Carroll's nice but I feel we can come up with a similar player or composite of several players that equate to Carroll elsewhere for much cheaper. Next, make Alexis Ajinca (our very own Roy Hibbert) and Lavoy Allen (a hybrid of Kurt Thomas/Mo Speights/David West -- the man can shoot, post up and rebound well) our 2 top frontcourt FA priorities -- we get both guys for a good price and sit back and watch each player's production soar next year with expanded roles/increased minutes. Finally, I'd like to see Phil reconstruct the rest of the roster using high-quality/low-cost NBA/DL FAs and a high 2nd round pick we acquire for either THJ or Early. Also, Jose Calderon needs to be stretched for the extra cash. It's imperative. Makes zero sense to keep him on board for $8mm or whatever he's on the books for next year. If it doesn't happen -- no good man. If Calderon's back, either one of two things: (1) Phil can't admit a mistake or (2) Dolan refuses to pony up the cash to make Calderon go away -- I don't know which is more frustrating from a fan's perspective. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Calderon back as a coach at some point, he seems very heady and engaging on the sidelines, talking to players etc. -- but not as a main cog player anymore...I wouldn't mind something like this:

5 - Alexis Ajinca
4 - Lavoy Allen
3 - Carmelo Anthony
2 - Alexey Shved
1 - Cory Joseph (or Jeremy Lin 2nd choice)
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5 - Jordan Bachynski (or resign Cole Aldrich 2nd choice)
4 - Thomas Robinson
3 - Eric Griffin (or Luke Babbitt 2nd choice)
2 - Scotty Hopson (or Kevin Murphy, Orlando Johnson, Dominique Jones -- if there's one position we don't need to spend a ton on to upgrade, it's the 2 spot)
1 - Joseph Young -- high 2nd rounder we acquire for either THJ and/or Early and/or cash (could we combine these assets for a low 1st rounder possibly?) -- the other player is dealt for a future draft pick
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5 - Earl Barron - underrated/skilled 7 footer that deserves a full-time gig in the NBA
4 - Jerrelle Benimon or Khem Birch (or we forget Barron and carry Benimon AND Birch. Allen can play some 5)
3 - Thanasis Antetokounmpo
2 - Ricky Ledo (or Kevin Murphy, Orlando Johnson, Dominique Jones)
1 - Langston Galloway

Not even counting our top-5 pick which obviously gets assimilated as a main rotation component, most likely as a starter. Not sure who that'll be at this point--either one of the top big men, a wing like Winslow/Russell or the big PG Mudiay (provided Phil doesn't trade the pick if it turns out being pick 4 or 5, something he keeps talking about doing--he better be right--if he brings back some high-salary player/package of players, it better be good enough or else he'll ruin this team for another 5 years minimum). I like the look of this team even sans the draft pick. It's got everything we need -- upgraded size; youth; big upgrade at the point with a good young, productive PG with championship experience that's ready to run his own team; upgraded rebounding with Ajinca/Allen/Robinson/Barron/Benimon/Birch; legit rim protection with Bachynski/Birch/Griffin; 2 standout individual defenders in Thanasis and Griffin; upgraded scoring across the board and quality depth at all positions all the way down to 15 -- all w/o overpaying any one guy individually which will give us flexibility should we have to break up the roster again on the fly or a part of it. With this group, I'd be looking to win 50 games, challenge for the Atlantic Division title and get past the 1st round in the playoffs. Then we evaluate a few things moving forward: who's worth keeping, who becomes legit trade bait, who assumes 2nd best player status on this team next to Melo (could be any number of new players including our top-5 draft pick), and what we need to go even further the following year when the cap expands -- quite a few good possibilities (maybe a Nicolas Batum in a Scottie Pippen-type role perhaps).

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/08/06/durant-heads-2016-free-agency-class-that-will-be-best-ever/.

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:U think Dolan had guys like that in mind as he was handing Phil a contract for 60 mil..

That's not answering the question. Who exactly do u think we can get?

There is no reason to fill cap space with players who aren't going to help you win..You are fielding a 30 win team at best with those signings...I would leave the cap space available for better options in 2016..And I certainly won't sign a guy who plays the same position as Melo and spending the most off season money on him..

Remember when we signed Tyson Chandler, later that year Chris Paul became available..We only had 13 mil in cap space but U never know..I prefer to keep my options open for a better move than just bringing bodies like we did with Amare..

BRIGGS wrote:That should be our free agency

It's so hard to keep up with all the threads that are about the same topics around here. Why can't we just open a free agency thread and talk all free agency in that thread instead of opening 25 threads about free agency??

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:That should be our free agency

It's so hard to keep up with all the threads that are about the same topics around here. Why can't we just open a free agency thread and talk all free agency in that thread instead of opening 25 threads about free agency??

Personally, I prefer lots of smaller threads than just one behemoth- it's much easier to catch up, rather than having to trawl through 10s of pages of the same thread- that's one of the reason i prefer this sight to realgm, as the latter are a bit overzealous with keeping everything in one thread. It's tough getting the balance right though

BRIGGS wrote:If we get towns and Kaminski does fall to 12-16 I'd be willing to use 12mms in cap to acquire him. I'd be very aggressive doing that and then just go after Carroll alone in free agency

That's why you're not a GM and sitting on a message board. LOL

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If we get towns and Kaminski does fall to 12-16 I'd be willing to use 12mms in cap to acquire him. I'd be very aggressive doing that and then just go after Carroll alone in free agency

That's why you're not a GM and sitting on a message board. LOL

callmened wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:That should be our free agency

Please stop Briggs.

Sorry we're not getting Jimmy butler. I'm dealing with reality

Lol. Another shot by BRIGGS. I said I had hoped for butler never said it was realistic

Also if you noticed I never knocked your suggestion (in fact I rarely do. I actually respect your opinions ). My question is would fans be satisfied with those guys

What are u talking about dude I wasn't talking to you I was answering legend. I have no idea who you like or don't like

Finestrg wrote:Not bad and certainly realistic -- I've got a slightly different take:

I'd like to see the point upgraded with a legit NBA PG--I'd rather throw the $10-13mm at Cory Joseph (or slightly more than half that amount at Jeremy Lin) over DeMarre Carroll. Bringing back Alexey Shved is a priority as well. Carroll's nice but I feel we can come up with a similar player or composite of several players that equate to Carroll elsewhere for much cheaper. Next, make Alexis Ajinca (our very own Roy Hibbert) and Lavoy Allen (a hybrid of Kurt Thomas/Mo Speights/David West -- the man can shoot, post up and rebound well) our 2 top frontcourt FA priorities -- we get both guys for a good price and sit back and watch each player's production soar next year with expanded roles/increased minutes. Finally, I'd like to see Phil reconstruct the rest of the roster using high-quality/low-cost NBA/DL FAs and a high 2nd round pick we acquire for either THJ or Early. Also, Jose Calderon needs to be stretched for the extra cash. It's imperative. Makes zero sense to keep him on board for $8mm or whatever he's on the books for next year. If it doesn't happen -- no good man. If Calderon's back, either one of two things: (1) Phil can't admit a mistake or (2) Dolan refuses to pony up the cash to make Calderon go away -- I don't know which is more frustrating from a fan's perspective. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Calderon back as a coach at some point, he seems very heady and engaging on the sidelines, talking to players etc. -- but not as a main cog player anymore...I wouldn't mind something like this:

5 - Alexis Ajinca
4 - Lavoy Allen
3 - Carmelo Anthony
2 - Alexey Shved
1 - Cory Joseph (or Jeremy Lin 2nd choice)
----------------------
5 - Jordan Bachynski (or resign Cole Aldrich 2nd choice)
4 - Thomas Robinson
3 - Eric Griffin (or Luke Babbitt 2nd choice)
2 - Scotty Hopson (or Kevin Murphy, Orlando Johnson, Dominique Jones -- if there's one position we don't need to spend a ton on to upgrade, it's the 2 spot)
1 - Joseph Young -- high 2nd rounder we acquire for either THJ and/or Early and/or cash (could we combine these assets for a low 1st rounder possibly?) -- the other player is dealt for a future draft pick
----------------------
5 - Earl Barron - underrated/skilled 7 footer that deserves a full-time gig in the NBA
4 - Jerrelle Benimon or Khem Birch (or we forget Barron and carry Benimon AND Birch. Allen can play some 5)
3 - Thanasis Antetokounmpo
2 - Ricky Ledo (or Kevin Murphy, Orlando Johnson, Dominique Jones)
1 - Langston Galloway

Not even counting our top-5 pick which obviously gets assimilated as a main rotation component, most likely as a starter. Not sure who that'll be at this point--either one of the top big men, a wing like Winslow/Russell or the big PG Mudiay (provided Phil doesn't trade the pick if it turns out being pick 4 or 5, something he keeps talking about doing--he better be right--if he brings back some high-salary player/package of players, it better be good enough or else he'll ruin this team for another 5 years minimum). I like the look of this team even sans the draft pick. It's got everything we need -- upgraded size; youth; big upgrade at the point with a good young, productive PG with championship experience that's ready to run his own team; upgraded rebounding with Ajinca/Allen/Robinson/Barron/Benimon/Birch; legit rim protection with Bachynski/Birch/Griffin; 2 standout individual defenders in Thanasis and Griffin; upgraded scoring across the board and quality depth at all positions all the way down to 15 -- all w/o overpaying any one guy individually which will give us flexibility should we have to break up the roster again on the fly or a part of it. With this group, I'd be looking to win 50 games, challenge for the Atlantic Division title and get past the 1st round in the playoffs. Then we evaluate a few things moving forward: who's worth keeping, who becomes legit trade bait, who assumes 2nd best player status on this team next to Melo (could be any number of new players including our top-5 draft pick), and what we need to go even further the following year when the cap expands -- quite a few good possibilities (maybe a Nicolas Batum in a Scottie Pippen-type role perhaps).

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/08/06/durant-heads-2016-free-agency-class-that-will-be-best-ever/.

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If we get towns and Kaminski does fall to 12-16 I'd be willing to use 12mms in cap to acquire him. I'd be very aggressive doing that and then just go after Carroll alone in free agency

That's why you're not a GM and sitting on a message board. LOL

If the Knicks got towns kaminsky and Carroll they would easily have the best offseason of any team. Not even close

Ummmmm what?? So please tell me how did the other 29 teams do in free agency since for some odd reason you already know?? Hahaha I am a fan of those three though but not sure how we'd get Towns and Frank the tank?