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Nice to have cap room but who will be our vet leader?
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Knicks1969
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4/27/2015  4:44 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
holfresh wrote:I don't buy all that stuff at all..You need talent, a good coach and a competent GM ..All else are a distance last..Riley was the leader with Ewing crew..

Sorry, but you're completely wrong on this, and you don't need to "buy it," its just the truth.


You can never underestimate the importance of player leadership. I've experienced this as an intermediate, high school, and college athlete and as someone who has coached one sport or another for about 28 years. Good player leaders are worth their weight in gold- I know this from talking to other coaches, as well as experiencing it on my own teams.

A good coach is important, as are the other things you mention, but having player leaders who can inspire, set an example, and keep teammates in line is as important a part of a good team as anything you mentioned, and in some cases, even more important. They might follow cues set by a coach, but their role and impact is a force unto itself.

There has to be a balance of many things for a team to be great, but you're fooling yourself if you deny the importance of player leadership.

Agree 200%

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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4/27/2015  4:51 PM
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:SA has no player leaders and they are fine..They are currently making Leonard the man, the go to guy and he is afraid of cameras..

Have you ever watched Tim Duncan during a game? He is the consumate team leader.


Every team discusses strategy, even our Knicks..

Jeremy Lin first interview in Houston he announced he was brought in to be the leader..


Tim Duncan is one of the consummate team leaders in the history of basketball. NAY, the history of organized sports. Seriously, he's one of the top five basketball players of all time. I mean, really? This is a question? There's a question about whether Tim Duncan, who has led his team for 16 years, is a leader? Really?


Yup...100%

Anyone who denies this, or thinks that player leadership is unimportant, is living a world other than this one.

I suppose that folks who manage fantasy league teams or play basketball video games don't worry about player leadership, but in the real world its essential.

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4/27/2015  4:54 PM
Here's another option, who may be relatively cheap...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brazilian-point-guard-marcelo-huertas-planning-move-to-nba-204453713.html

After years of playing significant roles in the Euroleague and on the Brazilian national team, point guard Marcelo Huertas is planning a move to the NBA next season, Yahoo Sports has learned.

Huertas, 31, a savvy, athletic 6-foot-3 playmaker and a deft shooter, is expected to be aggressively pursued as a backup guard in July free agency.

Huertas has been anchored to the Spanish ACB League the past six years with long-term deals that contained significant NBA buyouts, but finally is free of those hurdles. He hasn’t ruled out returning to FC Barcelona next year if the right NBA offer doesn’t emerge, but Huertas is determined to take a serious look at joining the NBA.
“This is the right time,” Huertas told Yahoo Sports.

Huertas has played six seasons for FC Barcelona of the Spanish ACB, leading Barca to three consecutive Euroleague Final Four appearances. He’s averaging 7.4 points and 4.9 assists for Barcelona this season. Huertas is a career 87 percent free-throw shooter.

Huertas has been Brazil’s point guard in numerous Olympic Games, World Championships and FIBA America tournaments. He averaged 11 points and five assists for Brazil in the 2012 London Olympic Games.

The natural comparison to Huertas will be Houston’s Pablo Prigioni, an Argentinian point guard who came to the NBA later in his European career at the age of 35.

“Prigoni is the guy most likely to get compared to me, because our career trajectory had been similar in Europe,” Huertas said. “And like him, I can run a team without worrying about scoring.”

Nevertheless, Huertas is a more dynamic playmaker than Prigioni and far closer to his prime at 31.

“There’s so much more space in the NBA,” Huertas told Yahoo Sports. “It’s not like Europe now, where you have one guy full-time in the paint. Space is harder to come by. One of my strengths is playing in the pick-and-roll, finding open guys and making shots in the mid-range game off the dribble.

“I think that part is harder to find now, because you mostly have guys who get all the way to the hole, or they’re three-point shooters. And if I’m open, and I can get my feet set, I’m going to make a lot of those kind of shots.”

Huertas thinks he can make a difference in the locker room, too, by mentoring young players and meshing with veterans chasing playoff runs. Barcelona’s season could run into late June, especially given its standing as one of the Euroleague’s top teams.

“If you look at NBA rosters, there are unbelievable starting point guards, but maybe not as many guys who can come off the bench able to run the team, score the ball – as well as being able to be a leader for young players,” Huertas told Yahoo. “Those are things I know I’ll be able to bring with me.”

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4/27/2015  4:56 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:SA has no player leaders and they are fine..They are currently making Leonard the man, the go to guy and he is afraid of cameras..

Have you ever watched Tim Duncan during a game? He is the consumate team leader.


Every team discusses strategy, even our Knicks..

Jeremy Lin first interview in Houston he announced he was brought in to be the leader..


Tim Duncan is one of the consummate team leaders in the history of basketball. NAY, the history of organized sports. Seriously, he's one of the top five basketball players of all time. I mean, really? This is a question? There's a question about whether Tim Duncan, who has led his team for 16 years, is a leader? Really?


Yup...100%

Anyone who denies this, or thinks that player leadership is unimportant, is living a world other than this one.

I suppose that folks who manage fantasy league teams or play basketball video games don't worry about player leadership, but in the real world its essential.

I will go one step further; anyone who thinks player leadership is unimportant just doesn't have a clue about team SPORTS.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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4/27/2015  4:57 PM
mreinman wrote:We know that Phil needs to bring in a leader.

There are not many out there but if we are going to overpay for someone, that person should be our VOCAL leader in the locker room.

Who can that be?

David West is probably the best option. I would overpay him since he is probably the best leader on the market.

Who else fits that bill?

Melo.....oh wait a minute.

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4/27/2015  4:58 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:The coach and the BEST player need to be great leaders for the team to be a success. We need to find a way to bring in a guy like J. Jack to play the point momentarily, until we can actually develop a pure leader. I can actually see Langston G or THJ become great leaders.

I also think Galloway could develop into a leader. He took charge on several occasions during the season even as a rookie.

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4/27/2015  4:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/27/2015  5:03 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
holfresh wrote:I don't buy all that stuff at all..You need talent, a good coach and a competent GM ..All else are a distance last..Riley was the leader with Ewing crew..

Sorry, but you're completely wrong on this, and you don't need to "buy it," its just the truth.


You can never underestimate the importance of player leadership. I've experienced this as an intermediate, high school, and college athlete and as someone who has coached one sport or another for about 28 years. Good player leaders are worth their weight in gold- I know this from talking to other coaches, as well as experiencing it on my own teams.

A good coach is important, as are the other things you mention, but having player leaders who can inspire, set an example, and keep teammates in line is as important a part of a good team as anything you mentioned, and in some cases, even more important. They might follow cues set by a coach, but their role and impact is a force unto itself.

There has to be a balance of many things for a team to be great, but you're fooling yourself if you deny the importance of player leadership.

Who is the leader in SA?..Popovic ..Who was the leader on the 90s Knick team, not Ewing or Oakley but Riley..

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4/27/2015  5:00 PM
nixluva wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The coach and the BEST player need to be great leaders for the team to be a success. We need to find a way to bring in a guy like J. Jack to play the point momentarily, until we can actually develop a pure leader. I can actually see Langston G or THJ become great leaders.

I also think Galloway could develop into a leader. He took charge on several occasions during the season even as a rookie.

I think Fisher sees a lot of himself in Galloway - he's a component to a winning team, but I think they need a veteran pressence.

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4/27/2015  5:02 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:The coach and the BEST player need to be great leaders for the team to be a success. We need to find a way to bring in a guy like J. Jack to play the point momentarily, until we can actually develop a pure leader. I can actually see Langston G or THJ become great leaders.

You have got to be kidding with THJ!!!!!

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4/27/2015  5:13 PM
LivingLegend wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:The coach and the BEST player need to be great leaders for the team to be a success. We need to find a way to bring in a guy like J. Jack to play the point momentarily, until we can actually develop a pure leader. I can actually see Langston G or THJ become great leaders.

You have got to be kidding with THJ!!!!!

That kid has leadership abilities; you don't believe me, ask Clyde. During the summer league, he led the young dudes. The problem with THJ this year is that he had a rough start. He had too many other guards infront of him which hindered his development this year. He lost his confidence early on due to poor coaching decision and THJ's ego

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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4/27/2015  5:36 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:The coach and the BEST player need to be great leaders for the team to be a success. We need to find a way to bring in a guy like J. Jack to play the point momentarily, until we can actually develop a pure leader. I can actually see Langston G or THJ become great leaders.
Galloway has been praised for his leadership qualities and apparently gravitates towards that role. It would be nice to add a vet leader as well.
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Nice to have cap room but who will be our vet leader?

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