knickscity wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Uptown wrote:Imo, Lance best position is pg/facilitator. He's ineffective without the ball in his hands. He is a horrible perimeter shooter so running off screens or driving and kicking to him is worthless. However, if you put the ball in his hands and let him facilitate the triangle, i think ha can average a near triple double. Lance can also guard 1-3. He also has the toughness to play and thrive in NYC. I would take a chance on him if the plan is to utilize his strengths.

Wow you think he can average a near triple double?? He would have to become almost Lebron like to even come close to averaging a triple double.

He might be able to have a few in a season, but I cant see him averaging more than 6 assists per game. We wants to score and isnt very good at it.

I think it depends on where Pjax and Fish place him. If they allow him to play big pg, which I think is his best position, he can play bully ball out top get to the foul line a lot. I think he can average anywhere between 13 and 15 pts per. As a pg I think he can average 7 or 8 asts per. Tariq Evans averaged 7 ast this year, Lance, i believe see's the floor just as well if not better. Last year in Indy, he averaged 7 rbs per. Yes, i know it was a contract yr, but i think he is capable of 6 or 7 rbs per.

knickscity wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Uptown wrote:Imo, Lance best position is pg/facilitator. He's ineffective without the ball in his hands. He is a horrible perimeter shooter so running off screens or driving and kicking to him is worthless. However, if you put the ball in his hands and let him facilitate the triangle, i think ha can average a near triple double. Lance can also guard 1-3. He also has the toughness to play and thrive in NYC. I would take a chance on him if the plan is to utilize his strengths.

Wow you think he can average a near triple double?? He would have to become almost Lebron like to even come close to averaging a triple double.

He might be able to have a few in a season, but I cant see him averaging more than 6 assists per game. We wants to score and isnt very good at it.

In not a fan of Lance at all but he did lead the league in triple doubles the season before this one (his last on the Pacers).

Knicks1969 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:The upside with Stephenson is tremendous. He is only 24, 16 days older than youth Travis Wear. Moving Jose and Tim for the potential of Lance is worth it in my opinion. Charlotte doesn't want Lance. Maybe you sweeten the deal with a 2019 second rounder but not much more. Lance, Melo, a top 5 pick and two or three free agents set the Knicks up nicely.

No one is taking in Calderon's toxic contract and treat it as an asset to be bartered.

No one.

To move Calderon's contract, the Knicks will need to package A REAL ASSET with Calderon to get him off the roster. And accept getting Calderon off the books is the return, not expecting to actually get a REAL ASSET from another team.

For example, sending out Early, THJr and Calderon for a conditional 2nd round pick is something that might be feasible. Thats if some team just loves and loves Early and thinks THJr can be fixed.

Calderon is one of the worst contracts in the league. Even some overpaid pivots can at least clog the lane for you. Or maybe give you six hard fouls. Calderon is an aging overpaid reserve who plays the position with the least overall positional value in the entire league.

I agree, no reason for Hornets to take Jose when they can just waive Lance rather then eat Jose's contract. Calderon's value is shot at the moment. Its best to see if we can bring it back up with an improve roster.

Why waste time and a roster spot on Calderon? Just trade him if possible or stretch him. I love Lance, but I don't want to trade future draft picks to get him. Calderon and THJ should suffice.

Not sure it would play out for him here. He had a great situation in Indy with good folks around him on and off the court, and walked away. At this moment the Knicks don't have the leaders to keep him in check, IMO.

You're playing with fire if you think he can thrive on the Knicks as presently constituted.

crzymdups wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:We know about JR Smith and NYC, we saw what happened with New Jersey born Copeland and some other NBA players at 4 AM in the morning, and we know that Lance had issues when living in NYC.

Not sure it would play out for him here. He had a great situation in Indy with good folks around him on and off the court, and walked away. At this moment the Knicks don't have the leaders to keep him in check, IMO.

You're playing with fire if you think he can thrive on the Knicks as presently constituted.

Anthony Mason did okay on the Knicks.

But I agree there is a severe lack of leadership on the roster and that could be a problem.

Yeah, surrounded by dudes like Oakley and Starks and the rest of the crew. Absolutely no comparison to the present day roster.

H1AND1 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:We know about JR Smith and NYC, we saw what happened with New Jersey born Copeland and some other NBA players at 4 AM in the morning, and we know that Lance had issues when living in NYC.

Not sure it would play out for him here. He had a great situation in Indy with good folks around him on and off the court, and walked away. At this moment the Knicks don't have the leaders to keep him in check, IMO.

You're playing with fire if you think he can thrive on the Knicks as presently constituted.

Anthony Mason did okay on the Knicks.

But I agree there is a severe lack of leadership on the roster and that could be a problem.

Yeah, surrounded by dudes like Oakley and Starks and the rest of the crew. Absolutely no comparison to the present day roster.

That is so true; veterans leadership is an important attribute that most teams need; specifically, teams without a valiant superstar. Since David West will be a free agent, why not consider giving him a contract to mold who so ever is the young man we draft; as well as, leading the entire squad?