CrushAlot wrote:Interesting stuff about looking into buying out contracts in Europe. Free agency could have some surprise signings.

I agree. I think there could easily be some hidden gems in Europe. I wish we has a young Pablo given how he was able to play at an advanced age. There are probably some quality reserves similar to foreign players in the NBA now. We need players with real skills and BB IQ. It should be very interesting.

I'm also very excited to see who we have in Summer League this year. I hope Labeyrie comes so we can see if he has game. Also watching Thanasis and our draft pick this summer should be fun. Gotta admit this is going to be one of the most exciting off seasons we seen. A draft pick plus a bunch of free agents being courted.

TripleThreat wrote:

nixluva wrote:On this forum there is a high level of knee jerk reaction to any quote and utterance made and often taken out of context. Seems to me that when you take the totality of the comments from Phil, Mills, Fish and Melo it's clear that most of the panic is wrong and not very helpful. We really don't need to have all of the ultra negative and panic strewn comments that the Media is all too happy to foment with leading articles and quotes taken out of context.

People are going to have different views and different opinions on what they see and hear about the Knicks from the press.

Your problem. ( It's YOURS, not anyone elses) Again, your problem is that you simply dismiss anyone with a different opinion as yours as either being

1) Ignorant
and/or
2) A total jack off

You're a condescending passive aggressive terrorist troll with an agenda. You intentionally needle people and then try to run and hide behind some thin veil you call "optimism"

I would just write off what you do to a simple but tragic case of too much ignorance mixed with an unhealthy dose of arrogance, but it's clear you are being willfully obtuse on purpose.

Notice, you never disagree with people, you simply dismiss them. You know what specific group excels at that kind of behavior?

Women.

I think where Splat failed is he gave you too much credit or simply took it for granted that he was dealing with a man or someone with a male mentality at it's core.

I've actually never seen you acknowledge on person, any person, who has had a different basketball opinion from yours. That's why your agenda is actually pretty transparent.

You don't actually respect other people's opinions but instantly run to claim the victim of some kind of fabricated intolerance to your own version of enlightenment. Again, that kind of wacky juju only starts to find clarity when one imagines your behavior like a womans and not a mans.

People are going to feel how they want to feel about the Knicks. Crazy as it sounds, it's actually ok to have a different opinion than yours. If someone disagrees with you, you write them off as "negative" or some other flaw in their character instead of just accepting sometimes people can actually agree to disagree.

Here's the difference between Splat and I.

Splat was just waiting for you to change your tampon.

I'm just waiting for you to stop menstruating.

Now you know what "direct" looks like. Here endeth the lesson.

dk7th wrote:
my beef is simple: phil jackson felt compelled to sign a:

30-yr-old
low bbiq
inefficient scoring
non-defending
non-playmaking
poorly-conditioned
isolation player
with a huge contract and a no-trade clause
who is breaking down
who has yet to prove he can play in the system the president and coach want to install

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:
my beef is simple: phil jackson felt compelled to sign a:

30-yr-old
low bbiq
inefficient scoring
non-defending
non-playmaking
poorly-conditioned
isolation player
with a huge contract and a no-trade clause
who is breaking down
who has yet to prove he can play in the system the president and coach want to install

Man I thought you were talking about yourself! Then I realized nobody would ever offer you a huge contract

there would be no point in doing so because, as an ethical person interested in winning, i have no interest in being courted, and i would proactively offer my services for less than what imbeciles think the market would dictate because i appreciate orders of magnitude where money is concerned. these are things that melo and his fanboys clearly do not understand.

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:my beef is simple: phil jackson felt compelled to sign a:

30-yr-old
low bbiq
inefficient scoring
non-defending
non-playmaking
poorly-conditioned
isolation player
with a huge contract and a no-trade clause
who is breaking down
who has yet to prove he can play in the system the president and coach want to install

never mind about the triangle being for so-called "lesser" players. the triangle relies on all the players, and is for all players.

the plan is clearly half-baked. he claimed he had a playoff team on his hands. he himself admitted the season was "a project gone awry" and that his "experiment has fallen flat on its face."

these are the reasons there's so much argument about which player to draft, should the knicks be so lucky as to have dibs, and which free agents to bring in, should there be any genuine interest among them to come into an extremely sketchy situation.

it's because the design or plan for the future contains a high probability of remaining untenable due to the alleged plan being both inchoate and chaotic, with no clear and strong leadership in place.

You forgot the attention whore, bitch type, playoff-useless rebounding.

Subtitles: I hate Melo, hence I will hate Phil.

It's both simple and clear; a plan and outlook that ignores reality, draft picks, cap space and past comparitive history. If the Knicks make the playoffs, it's fools gold jv nonsense. If the Knicks don't make the playoffs, it's vindication in the opinion that a hallmark player for the franchise is actually an untalented, greedy moron. And that any executive or coach or management type, that is on board with said player, no matter what their background may include, is suffering from alzheimers, insipient insanity, or worse.

But when you have hate, you really need not consider evidence. Other than the fact that you just know that your hate and inner shining light of BB altruism would be much better for all concerned. Because you are not arrogant about your own opinion and tremendous abilities. Despite the fact that real people are doing real NBA things and you are typing endless negative drivel on a fan board.

their record is real, the quotes are real, the contract is real. what are you babbling about this time?

April 26   -- NBA Draft Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET)
May 12-17  -- 2015 NBA Draft Combine (on court portion May 14-15)
May 19     -- 2015 NBA Draft Lottery
June 15    -- NBA Draft Early Entry Withdrawal Deadline (5 p.m. ET)
June 25    -- 2015 NBA Draft
July 1     -- Free Agent Negotiating Period
July 8     -- Free Agent Contracts can be signed
Summer League  

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:my beef is simple: phil jackson felt compelled to sign a:

30-yr-old
low bbiq
inefficient scoring
non-defending
non-playmaking
poorly-conditioned
isolation player
with a huge contract and a no-trade clause
who is breaking down
who has yet to prove he can play in the system the president and coach want to install

never mind about the triangle being for so-called "lesser" players. the triangle relies on all the players, and is for all players.

the plan is clearly half-baked. he claimed he had a playoff team on his hands. he himself admitted the season was "a project gone awry" and that his "experiment has fallen flat on its face."

these are the reasons there's so much argument about which player to draft, should the knicks be so lucky as to have dibs, and which free agents to bring in, should there be any genuine interest among them to come into an extremely sketchy situation.

it's because the design or plan for the future contains a high probability of remaining untenable due to the alleged plan being both inchoate and chaotic, with no clear and strong leadership in place.

You forgot the attention whore, bitch type, playoff-useless rebounding.

Subtitles: I hate Melo, hence I will hate Phil.

It's both simple and clear; a plan and outlook that ignores reality, draft picks, cap space and past comparitive history. If the Knicks make the playoffs, it's fools gold jv nonsense. If the Knicks don't make the playoffs, it's vindication in the opinion that a hallmark player for the franchise is actually an untalented, greedy moron. And that any executive or coach or management type, that is on board with said player, no matter what their background may include, is suffering from alzheimers, insipient insanity, or worse.

But when you have hate, you really need not consider evidence. Other than the fact that you just know that your hate and inner shining light of BB altruism would be much better for all concerned. Because you are not arrogant about your own opinion and tremendous abilities. Despite the fact that real people are doing real NBA things and you are typing endless negative drivel on a fan board.

their record is real, the quotes are real, the contract is real. what are you babbling about this time?

Their resumes are real, their rings are real, the cap space and the draft picks are real, the playoffs were real and the NBA is a real billion dollar industry with lots and lots of real millionaire players, coaches and GM's.

And you are what, again? Oh that's right, typing about being proactively ethical and smarter than people making millions of dollars doing things you can't and don't.

You know you are a real antagonist arsehole. Where I worked it was common to see 90% of everyone in their 20's millionaires. Guys/gals who were just making 3.37 an hour in school just a few short years before they started(Id say less than 30% were silver spoons). Does that make anyone there better than anyone else? Absolutely not. But those workers who are likely 90%+++ retired(I dont know anyone who still actively works) have held on to their nest eggs or enhanced them quite a bit while these athletes make stories every day that they are broke. Are you smarter than teachers fireman police officers nurses etc.. my bet is no. You're a silver spoon baby--don't forget it and stop putting others down you little man

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:This is a huge summer for us Knicks fans. Complaining about Melo is fruitless. Having a top 5 pick is making this one of the most exciting summers we've had in addition to having cap space to go after Free Agents.

April 26   -- NBA Draft Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET)
May 12-17  -- 2015 NBA Draft Combine (on court portion May 14-15)
May 19     -- 2015 NBA Draft Lottery
June 15    -- NBA Draft Early Entry Withdrawal Deadline (5 p.m. ET)
June 25    -- 2015 NBA Draft
July 1     -- Free Agent Negotiating Period
July 8     -- Free Agent Contracts can be signed
Summer League  

yes a big summer for sure. Now we will find out how good of a gm phil will be or not

The piece about possible foreign players they might try to sign was very interesting. It's a mystery since we don't know anything about the players they've been scouting overseas.
Sounds like they took it really serious sending a contingent over to personally check guys out, since they already have a foreign scout full time.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

nixluva wrote:On this forum there is a high level of knee jerk reaction to any quote and utterance made and often taken out of context. Seems to me that when you take the totality of the comments from Phil, Mills, Fish and Melo it's clear that most of the panic is wrong and not very helpful. We really don't need to have all of the ultra negative and panic strewn comments that the Media is all too happy to foment with leading articles and quotes taken out of context.

People are going to have different views and different opinions on what they see and hear about the Knicks from the press.

Your problem. ( It's YOURS, not anyone elses) Again, your problem is that you simply dismiss anyone with a different opinion as yours as either being

1) Ignorant
and/or
2) A total jack off

You're a condescending passive aggressive terrorist troll with an agenda. You intentionally needle people and then try to run and hide behind some thin veil you call "optimism"

I would just write off what you do to a simple but tragic case of too much ignorance mixed with an unhealthy dose of arrogance, but it's clear you are being willfully obtuse on purpose.

Notice, you never disagree with people, you simply dismiss them. You know what specific group excels at that kind of behavior?

Women.

I think where Splat failed is he gave you too much credit or simply took it for granted that he was dealing with a man or someone with a male mentality at it's core.

I've actually never seen you acknowledge on person, any person, who has had a different basketball opinion from yours. That's why your agenda is actually pretty transparent.

You don't actually respect other people's opinions but instantly run to claim the victim of some kind of fabricated intolerance to your own version of enlightenment. Again, that kind of wacky juju only starts to find clarity when one imagines your behavior like a womans and not a mans.

People are going to feel how they want to feel about the Knicks. Crazy as it sounds, it's actually ok to have a different opinion than yours. If someone disagrees with you, you write them off as "negative" or some other flaw in their character instead of just accepting sometimes people can actually agree to disagree.

Here's the difference between Splat and I.

Splat was just waiting for you to change your tampon.

I'm just waiting for you to stop menstruating.

Now you know what "direct" looks like. Here endeth the lesson.

agreed. Its good to have different opinions and its realistic. We all love the knicks and despite understandable frustration want things to turn around this summer

BRIGGS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:my beef is simple: phil jackson felt compelled to sign a:

30-yr-old
low bbiq
inefficient scoring
non-defending
non-playmaking
poorly-conditioned
isolation player
with a huge contract and a no-trade clause
who is breaking down
who has yet to prove he can play in the system the president and coach want to install

never mind about the triangle being for so-called "lesser" players. the triangle relies on all the players, and is for all players.

the plan is clearly half-baked. he claimed he had a playoff team on his hands. he himself admitted the season was "a project gone awry" and that his "experiment has fallen flat on its face."

these are the reasons there's so much argument about which player to draft, should the knicks be so lucky as to have dibs, and which free agents to bring in, should there be any genuine interest among them to come into an extremely sketchy situation.

it's because the design or plan for the future contains a high probability of remaining untenable due to the alleged plan being both inchoate and chaotic, with no clear and strong leadership in place.

You forgot the attention whore, bitch type, playoff-useless rebounding.

Subtitles: I hate Melo, hence I will hate Phil.

It's both simple and clear; a plan and outlook that ignores reality, draft picks, cap space and past comparitive history. If the Knicks make the playoffs, it's fools gold jv nonsense. If the Knicks don't make the playoffs, it's vindication in the opinion that a hallmark player for the franchise is actually an untalented, greedy moron. And that any executive or coach or management type, that is on board with said player, no matter what their background may include, is suffering from alzheimers, insipient insanity, or worse.

But when you have hate, you really need not consider evidence. Other than the fact that you just know that your hate and inner shining light of BB altruism would be much better for all concerned. Because you are not arrogant about your own opinion and tremendous abilities. Despite the fact that real people are doing real NBA things and you are typing endless negative drivel on a fan board.

their record is real, the quotes are real, the contract is real. what are you babbling about this time?

Their resumes are real, their rings are real, the cap space and the draft picks are real, the playoffs were real and the NBA is a real billion dollar industry with lots and lots of real millionaire players, coaches and GM's.

And you are what, again? Oh that's right, typing about being proactively ethical and smarter than people making millions of dollars doing things you can't and don't.

You know you are a real antagonist arsehole. Where I worked it was common to see 90% of everyone in their 20's millionaires. Guys/gals who were just making 3.37 an hour in school just a few short years before they started(Id say less than 30% were silver spoons). Does that make anyone there better than anyone else? Absolutely not. But those workers who are likely 90%+++ retired(I dont know anyone who still actively works) have held on to their nest eggs or enhanced them quite a bit while these athletes make stories every day that they are broke. Are you smarter than teachers fireman police officers nurses etc.. my bet is no. You're a silver spoon baby--don't forget it and stop putting others down you little man

BRIGGS, you okay man? Reading comprehension maybe? I'm not the one telling people how ethically and mentally superior I am, am I? That my BB IQ is better than the professionals in an actual franchise in front of me. WTF are you going on about? Who's talking about silver spoons? You got one up your nose or something?

I graduated with honors in Poli Sci, and I'm not the one saying I'm smarter than anyone, boss man. And you're seriously comparing Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher with dot.com boom traders?

Get back to concentrating on the hidden gems in the draft, BRIGGS.