nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I go back to the fact that there are only a finite group of players worth going after in this Free Agent Market. We have very little chance at the best of those players and only a limited amount of cap on top of that. So that being the case we are going to have to go after the next level of players. That leads to guys like Monroe, Matthews, Danny Green etc.

Phil just talked to fans about settling for player after not getting who fits what you are doing..He said signing Amare was a mistake..

Monroe is 24 yr old Post big who can pass. That fits, but he's not Marc Gasol. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Monroe would be a good upgrade for this team. This isn't a situation where you can take an absolutist approach. Just cuz we can't get the best big man Free Agent does't mean that no other free agent big is worth going after.

Look at Detriot, they were losing at a high rate with him..Without him, they were winning..Plain as day..I just hope these reports are wrong..

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I go back to the fact that there are only a finite group of players worth going after in this Free Agent Market. We have very little chance at the best of those players and only a limited amount of cap on top of that. So that being the case we are going to have to go after the next level of players. That leads to guys like Monroe, Matthews, Danny Green etc.

Phil just talked to fans about settling for player after not getting who fits what you are doing..He said signing Amare was a mistake..

Monroe is 24 yr old Post big who can pass. That fits, but he's not Marc Gasol. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Monroe would be a good upgrade for this team. This isn't a situation where you can take an absolutist approach. Just cuz we can't get the best big man Free Agent does't mean that no other free agent big is worth going after.

Look at Detriot, they were losing at a high rate with him..Without him, they were winning..Plain as day..I just hope these reports are wrong..

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I go back to the fact that there are only a finite group of players worth going after in this Free Agent Market. We have very little chance at the best of those players and only a limited amount of cap on top of that. So that being the case we are going to have to go after the next level of players. That leads to guys like Monroe, Matthews, Danny Green etc.

Phil just talked to fans about settling for player after not getting who fits what you are doing..He said signing Amare was a mistake..

Monroe is 24 yr old Post big who can pass. That fits, but he's not Marc Gasol. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Monroe would be a good upgrade for this team. This isn't a situation where you can take an absolutist approach. Just cuz we can't get the best big man Free Agent does't mean that no other free agent big is worth going after.

Agree. I just don't think it is a done deal. Isola doesn't know as much as most of the guys on this board.

Isola is a joke! First of all my wife could figure out that Monroe is one of the most likely options and she knows nothing about basketball. Monroe is a young Big who is an unrestricted Free Agent. That's the low hanging fruit in this market. The young RFA's are a bit tougher, so really this isn't much of a guess by Isola. Monroe playing in NY under Phil Jackson is a much better look than being pretty much forgotten and overlooked in Detroit. If i'm Monroe I want NY too. It just makes sense. He'd be playing with Melo who would be the best player he's ever played with plus whoever we draft should still be a nice addition.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I go back to the fact that there are only a finite group of players worth going after in this Free Agent Market. We have very little chance at the best of those players and only a limited amount of cap on top of that. So that being the case we are going to have to go after the next level of players. That leads to guys like Monroe, Matthews, Danny Green etc.

Phil just talked to fans about settling for player after not getting who fits what you are doing..He said signing Amare was a mistake..

Monroe is 24 yr old Post big who can pass. That fits, but he's not Marc Gasol. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Monroe would be a good upgrade for this team. This isn't a situation where you can take an absolutist approach. Just cuz we can't get the best big man Free Agent does't mean that no other free agent big is worth going after.

Agree. I just don't think it is a done deal. Isola doesn't know as much as most of the guys on this board.

He knows more than Alan Hahn suggesting we trade our #1 pick for an injured Durant with food problems

I still say we should target Ajincia, if we can move down in the draft or get another pick if we move CA, fill in the GUARDS threw the draft, and the BIGS in FA this summer and next summer
We also need to get solid players, multiple contracts, in the price range of 2m - 5m
With Cole Aldrich, we can resign them with early bird rights to make us go OVER the cap and have the FULL 6m MLE to either use on 2-3 players or 1-2 players

Look at players like

Sessions
Bayless
DJ Augustine
Evan Turner

all great value players

With possibly 1 player being a D LEaguer, 2nd rounder, undrafted FA to have a 3year deal with team options...
For instance, what Philly has done with many players like Covington along with many young players with upside

For majority of the MLE,

DeMMaRRe Carroll
Danny Green/Wesley Mathewws

We can use cap space and MLE on contracts like from 2m - 5m

Randy Foye/Mo Williams/Aaron Brooks
Will Barton/Gereld Green

Wesley Johnson/Derrick Williams

Mike Muscula

Ed Davis/Lavoy Allen/Serephin/Aron Baynes

Trade targets being

Meyers Leanard
Tony Wroten/Ish Smith/Covington if we can buy low, would give up a 1st rounder protected along with Tim Hardaway JR/Acey/Early etc, but I need 2nd rounders back with 1-2 in this draft and future drafts

Also consider using 1-2 Poison Pills as it wouldn't affect our ability to spend the next 2 years, only in year 3, which we should have built our foundation already with the rise of the cap of 20m in 2017

IF we are able to move CA to Lakers or Houston Rockets, it would be in our best interest and even CA's, as we are unlikely to be contenders till we develop our guys and he simply would have to wait another 2years b4 we can compete for a title...

Anyway back on Monroe, his weakness is DEFENSE, as he is stuck between a PF and Center, without the ability to defend the "stretch 4's" especially ones like Lebron/Durant/Rudy Gay along with LA, Dirk, Ryan Anderson etc

However, if we are able to acquire Ajinicia, his ability to spread the floor and with his combination of youth, length, athleticism, reach, and ability to cover much ground on both help DEFENSE and shot blocking/rebounding, it would allow a lane to penetrate at all times or lead to a wide OPEN 3pter if not

Not sure if we can hae both AJinicia and KAT play together on the floor together but their DEFENSE would be GREAT if KAT develops to his potential

CrushAlot wrote:Ron, the only place I can see Carmelo going is LA but reports are that he is active in the team building process so I don't think he is being moved.

If anything Melo seems to be the one moving personnel..

I hope Isola is wrong..I really do..

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I go back to the fact that there are only a finite group of players worth going after in this Free Agent Market. We have very little chance at the best of those players and only a limited amount of cap on top of that. So that being the case we are going to have to go after the next level of players. That leads to guys like Monroe, Matthews, Danny Green etc.

Phil just talked to fans about settling for player after not getting who fits what you are doing..He said signing Amare was a mistake..

Monroe is 24 yr old Post big who can pass. That fits, but he's not Marc Gasol. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Monroe would be a good upgrade for this team. This isn't a situation where you can take an absolutist approach. Just cuz we can't get the best big man Free Agent does't mean that no other free agent big is worth going after.

Agree. I just don't think it is a done deal. Isola doesn't know as much as most of the guys on this board.

Isola is a joke! First of all my wife could figure out that Monroe is one of the most likely options and she knows nothing about basketball. Monroe is a young Big who is an unrestricted Free Agent. That's the low hanging fruit in this market. The young RFA's are a bit tougher, so really this isn't much of a guess by Isola. Monroe playing in NY under Phil Jackson is a much better look than being pretty much forgotten and overlooked in Detroit. If i'm Monroe I want NY too. It just makes sense. He'd be playing with Melo who would be the best player he's ever played with plus whoever we draft should still be a nice addition.

i know you work for the knicks but you make detroit seem like a joke and the knicks seem like a first class organization that everyone wants to play for lol. I mean i love the knicks but we are dumb organization

We know exactly the kind of players we need. That's a major advantage going into Free Agency. We're not just going out and throwing names together and hoping it somehow works. There are clear skills we can look for in players and clear roles. That's why it's so easy to guess that Monroe would be a target cuz we know his game fits one of the clear roles in this offense.

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I go back to the fact that there are only a finite group of players worth going after in this Free Agent Market. We have very little chance at the best of those players and only a limited amount of cap on top of that. So that being the case we are going to have to go after the next level of players. That leads to guys like Monroe, Matthews, Danny Green etc.

Phil just talked to fans about settling for player after not getting who fits what you are doing..He said signing Amare was a mistake..

Monroe is 24 yr old Post big who can pass. That fits, but he's not Marc Gasol. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Monroe would be a good upgrade for this team. This isn't a situation where you can take an absolutist approach. Just cuz we can't get the best big man Free Agent does't mean that no other free agent big is worth going after.

Agree. I just don't think it is a done deal. Isola doesn't know as much as most of the guys on this board.

Isola is a joke! First of all my wife could figure out that Monroe is one of the most likely options and she knows nothing about basketball. Monroe is a young Big who is an unrestricted Free Agent. That's the low hanging fruit in this market. The young RFA's are a bit tougher, so really this isn't much of a guess by Isola. Monroe playing in NY under Phil Jackson is a much better look than being pretty much forgotten and overlooked in Detroit. If i'm Monroe I want NY too. It just makes sense. He'd be playing with Melo who would be the best player he's ever played with plus whoever we draft should still be a nice addition.

i know you work for the knicks but you make detroit seem like a joke and the knicks seem like a first class organization that everyone wants to play for lol. I mean i love the knicks but we are dumb organization

Detroit can do what they want i'm not concerned with them. As for the Knicks I don't consider this new regime to be a bunch of bums. I think they have a very clear idea of what they're looking to build here and we'll see how that goes this summer, but I don't see why Knicks fans are so closed minded about our own franchise at this point. We're still on the cusp of some major changes this summer. We're in a great position to improve. There's no reason to be down on what this franchise can do this summer given the options we have to get better and clear vision based on experience with this system.

We know exactly the kind of players we need. That's a major advantage going into Free Agency. We're not just going out and throwing names together and hoping it somehow works. There are clear skills we can look for in players and clear roles. That's why it's so easy to guess that Monroe would be a target cuz we know his game fits one of the clear roles in this offense.

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:I go back to the fact that there are only a finite group of players worth going after in this Free Agent Market. We have very little chance at the best of those players and only a limited amount of cap on top of that. So that being the case we are going to have to go after the next level of players. That leads to guys like Monroe, Matthews, Danny Green etc.

Phil just talked to fans about settling for player after not getting who fits what you are doing..He said signing Amare was a mistake..

Monroe is 24 yr old Post big who can pass. That fits, but he's not Marc Gasol. You can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Monroe would be a good upgrade for this team. This isn't a situation where you can take an absolutist approach. Just cuz we can't get the best big man Free Agent does't mean that no other free agent big is worth going after.

Look at Detriot, they were losing at a high rate with him..Without him, they were winning..Plain as day..I just hope these reports are wrong..

That means absolutely nothing. We won't be playing anything like Detroit. Phil has had so much success with bigs like Monroe in this system that it's a clear fit. Don't talk to me about the damn Pistons when we have an offense that's proven to work with post bigs. They may do better without him but that has no bearing on how he'd fit in our system. Just like how Schved looked so much better in our system than he did on other teams.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Ron, the only place I can see Carmelo going is LA but reports are that he is active in the team building process so I don't think he is being moved.

if melo is active in our rebuilding process we should just quit now lol. Considering the jr smith and bargnani additions were his ideas i dont have much faith in GM. Dolan still runs the show....Which sucks

That's is what Mills talked about in the press clips from their town hall meeting. Melo is respected and well liked by his peers despite what some guys say here. His involvement isn't a detriment and could help.

i dont exactly hold mills in high regard as a basketball guy