Finestrg wrote:
Who's KAJ?

Kareem Abdul Jabbar

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:youtube Towns looks great.

those aren't, like, special effects, man. the kid has a chance to be really really good. I feel like he's got some Sheed in him - I think he's somewhere between a Sheed and a Drummond and an Anthony Davis. aka very very very good.

I would be thrilled if we got Towns.

Town's highlights look great. That LSU shot he hit late in that game was a nice eye opener. The 8 fouls and 9 points in B2B tourney games was also. I take it all in stride. Im not Guns here looking to tear down other draftee's because I cant stomach anyone liking another player over mine. I really dont have a favorite. I would feel better if the #1 pick was a little more productive but have pretty much been other that ad nauseum

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:youtube Towns looks great.

those aren't, like, special effects, man. the kid has a chance to be really really good. I feel like he's got some Sheed in him - I think he's somewhere between a Sheed and a Drummond and an Anthony Davis. aka very very very good.

I would be thrilled if we got Towns.

no no no no doubt about it. Superstar potential. Of all the youtube prospects Mario actually looks the best to me. Point is I dont have a problem with any of the top 5 guys so Im a winner no matter who Phil picks

Town's highlights look great. That LSU shot he hit late in that game was a nice eye opener. The 8 fouls and 9 points in B2B tourney games was also. I take it all in stride. Im not Guns here looking to tear down other draftee's because I cant stomach anyone liking another player over mine. I really dont have a favorite. I would feel better if the #1 pick was a little more productive but have pretty much been other that ad nauseum

I think Towns will have an adjustment period to the NBA.

Though I think the fact that he was in a platoon system in Kentucky might actually help him in the NBA. He's not used to be the featured "MAN" on the team. That, in my mind, might actually make his transition to the NBA easier. You platoon him in year one and tell him to go all out for 24 minutes a night.

But I agree - there are five guys at the top of the draft who can all be very very good. I think Towns and Russell have the most potential. And Okafor is obviously a potential centerpiece...

It'll be interesting.

crzymdups wrote:

Finestrg wrote:
Who's KAJ?

Kareem Abdul Jabbar

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Finestrg wrote:
Who's KAJ?

Kareem Abdul Jabbar

You dont need this guy, or Ewing or Hakeem or any of these guys. What you need is practice. Kobe wasnt taught how to imitate Jordan's moves by MJ, he learned them by imitating and practicing. OK4 has been practicing his post moves since 8th grade looking at videos of Duncan and Hakeem. We dont need one of these guys any more than we need Allan Houston teaching them all to shoot. There is no mystery to good footwork. Its practice practice practice

I will respectfully disagree with you Fish. Kobe was coached by many; he would be the first to tell you that he often picks up the phone and calls a particular player to pick his brain about a series of things. He often calls other coaches (college, highschool, etc). There is a reason why a lot of these young kids have often failed to deliver on their potential; and too often that failure lies with the organization and coaching staff

Knicks1969 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Finestrg wrote:
Who's KAJ?

Kareem Abdul Jabbar

You dont need this guy, or Ewing or Hakeem or any of these guys. What you need is practice. Kobe wasnt taught how to imitate Jordan's moves by MJ, he learned them by imitating and practicing. OK4 has been practicing his post moves since 8th grade looking at videos of Duncan and Hakeem. We dont need one of these guys any more than we need Allan Houston teaching them all to shoot. There is no mystery to good footwork. Its practice practice practice

I will respectfully disagree with you Fish. Kobe was coached by many; he would be the first to tell you that he often pick up the phone and call a particular player to pick his brain about a series of things. He often calls other coaches (college, highschool, etc). There is a reason why a lot of these young kids have often failed to deliver on their potential; and too often that failure lies with the organization and coaching staff

i think that's on the player, too, though. kobe was driven as hell to be the best.

i liked hearing how langston galloway sought out Walt Clyde and some other vets for advice this season.

i think it's partially on the player and partially on the organization.

crzymdups wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Finestrg wrote:
Who's KAJ?

Kareem Abdul Jabbar

You dont need this guy, or Ewing or Hakeem or any of these guys. What you need is practice. Kobe wasnt taught how to imitate Jordan's moves by MJ, he learned them by imitating and practicing. OK4 has been practicing his post moves since 8th grade looking at videos of Duncan and Hakeem. We dont need one of these guys any more than we need Allan Houston teaching them all to shoot. There is no mystery to good footwork. Its practice practice practice

I will respectfully disagree with you Fish. Kobe was coached by many; he would be the first to tell you that he often pick up the phone and call a particular player to pick his brain about a series of things. He often calls other coaches (college, highschool, etc). There is a reason why a lot of these young kids have often failed to deliver on their potential; and too often that failure lies with the organization and coaching staff

i think that's on the player, too, though. kobe was driven as hell to be the best.

i liked hearing how langston galloway sought out Walt Clyde and some other vets for advice this season.

i think it's partially on the player and partially on the organization.

Oh yeah; the player has a lot to do with his success. However, it is a trilogy (player, coaches, and organization).

If Towns, Mudiay, Winslow and Russell are off the board and we draft OK4 I will be very happy and hopeful that he does improve on those areas. Just like I would hope Mudiay develops a killer jumper. However I think it's easier to develop a jumper than fix things between the ears. Ok4 has to have it in him to want to be great. Otherwise he will be just another Boozer, Eddy curry etc

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:youtube Towns looks great.

those aren't, like, special effects, man. the kid has a chance to be really really good. I feel like he's got some Sheed in him - I think he's somewhere between a Sheed and a Drummond and an Anthony Davis. aka very very very good.

I would be thrilled if we got Towns.

no no no no doubt about it. Superstar potential. Of all the youtube prospects Mario actually looks the best to me. Point is I dont have a problem with any of the top 5 guys so Im a winner no matter who Phil picks

Town's highlights look great. That LSU shot he hit late in that game was a nice eye opener. The 8 fouls and 9 points in B2B tourney games was also. I take it all in stride. Im not Guns here looking to tear down other draftee's because I cant stomach anyone liking another player over mine. I really dont have a favorite. I would feel better if the #1 pick was a little more productive but have pretty much been other that ad nauseum

Tear down the other prospects? Why because I prefer Towns over all of them? Doesn't mean we will have the opportunity to draft Towns

yea.. saying OK4 will probably end up playing in Greece and is another Mike Sweetney is some of the dumbest posting I have ever read. It makes zero sense and simply tells me you have made up your mind and have no interest in real discussion. You have also literally made stuff up on the spot to support your views (Town's rebounding #s). Its fine. I hope for your own viewing pleasure and feel-goodedness we do get Towns. Every discussion Ive ever had on the subject I have said Towns is a great prospect and we would be lucky to get such a blue chip.
You dont want to talk, you want to be right and agreed with. I dont get it the obvious emotional attachement you have to the guy but fine.... and remember, if Towns flops you can always blame that on Melo

You brought me into this thread with your original comment. You are the only one who thinks its Towns of bust for me. It's all in your head. I've been posting my top 14 lottery picks all year

gunsnewing wrote:Listening to Colin Cowherd. He just played a clip from coach K. analyzing OK4. He said he has great hands & great footwork but needs to improve his worth ethic to compete against the best in the NBA. Assuming he's talking about improving his conditioning and defense. Things we all already are aware of that raise red flags as a top 2 pick.

If Towns, Mudiay, Winslow and Russell are off the board and we draft OK4 I will be very happy and hopeful that he does improve on those areas. Just like I would hope Mudiay develops a killer jumper. However I think it's easier to develop a jumper than fix things between the ears. Ok4 has to have it in him to want to be great. Otherwise he will be just another Boozer, Eddy curry etc

Guns... these would be fair point if you applied the same to Towns. You dont. Towns has no red flags to you. Its Calipari's fault. Or the systems. 10 points and 7 boards for the season. B2B tourney games where he combined for 9 points and 8 fouls. Called out by Calipari for loafing during games and taking plays off... but your worried about the guy who won the title, lead his team in every category and was the featured played that every team devised a game plan around. But yea... there are clearly problems with OK4 between the ears. Zero logic dude. ZERO

Towns has upside. OK4 is what he is. ??????? Im sorry I thought both were 19 year old freshman. I mean this is stupid.. I could write a 600 page paper on the ridic things you have said about OK4 while shining the sparkle on Towns your golden mooby. Zero logic.

Lets move on. There is no discussion happening here.

Oh.. and in case I failed to mention... Towns looks awesome. I give him every ounce of credit he deserves.

Can you imagine how good Towns and Okafor would be if they went to college for two or three years? They'd be unstoppable as rookies.

There's a lot these kids lose by losing that second and third year. They have to get better under the spotlights with a lot of money at stake as their rookie contract starts ticking right away.