VDesai wrote:

knickscity wrote:

VDesai wrote:I think the target should be the Lakers. Trade pick #1/#2 to LAL for the no.4 and 27 picks + a no. 1 pick next year or the year after. We drop down to a spot where we can still get Kaminsky/Russell/WCS potentially and get another role player at 27 + a pick a year from now. its a long re-build- we need more bodies.

The Lakers by all accounts are going to be building through the draft, I cant see them giving up 3 st round picks picks for 1, just to move up 2-3 spots.

If you want Okafor and/or Towns and believe its a 2 player draft you will move up. Lakers need star power. This would be the only way of them securing one of the two marquee centers given their pretty much locked in on the 4 spot if they don't win the lotto.

gunsnewing wrote:If Teams are that high on particular players why are the desperate knicks going to help them get that player? Philly wants Mudiay or Russell

yeah but they prolly want to help the knicks out as well

mreinman wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to grab Hezonja and Kaminsky. In round #2 targets Dez Wells Joe Young

Free agent target Enes Kanter full max

Main trade target--Walter Taveras C Atlanta possession from 2nd round last year. I would be willing to give up a 2018 #1 pick(top 5 protected) to get them an additional #1 this year in a swap. Secondary is Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF from UNLV draft eligible.

Can anyone make that happen for me:)

As far as I know, the only team that we could trade down with to get two lottery picks is Philly. And that's only if they receive LA's top 5 protected pick this year. Why is Philly trading two lottery picks for one lottery pick?

exactly ... philly is not trading 2 for 1. This is a team that compiles picks, and does not give them away.

This is where being able to throw in those 2019 2nd round picks will come in handy

VCoug wrote:

martin wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to grab Hezonja and Kaminsky. In round #2 targets Dez Wells Joe Young

Free agent target Enes Kanter full max

Main trade target--Walter Taveras C Atlanta possession from 2nd round last year. I would be willing to give up a 2018 #1 pick(top 5 protected) to get them an additional #1 this year in a swap. Secondary is Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF from UNLV draft eligible.

Can anyone make that happen for me:)

As far as I know, the only team that we could trade down with to get two lottery picks is Philly. And that's only if they receive LA's top 5 protected pick this year. Why is Philly trading two lottery picks for one lottery pick?

Because maybe they think highly of a particular player?

It goes against everything Hinkie has done since taking over in Philly. His whole plan is asset collection and I don't see how trading, at worst, the 5th and 6th overall picks in the draft to move up to 1 (FYI, their worst case scenario for picks is 6th and 7th but that means we'll have fallen to 4th. Philly can get the 5th and 6th picks and we can still have 1st overall). As much as I like Towns, and I've been on the Towns bandwagon all season, I don't believe that anyone predicted to go in the lottery is anywhere near a sure thing, superstar, MVP-caliber player the way Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant were.

And besides, if Philly doesn't get the Lakers' pick then this whole scenario is impossible unless we somehow trade Melo to a lottery team.

Philly does still not yet have a franchise player, and that's why they have flipped players. They still looking.

martin wrote:

VCoug wrote:

martin wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to grab Hezonja and Kaminsky. In round #2 targets Dez Wells Joe Young

Free agent target Enes Kanter full max

Main trade target--Walter Taveras C Atlanta possession from 2nd round last year. I would be willing to give up a 2018 #1 pick(top 5 protected) to get them an additional #1 this year in a swap. Secondary is Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF from UNLV draft eligible.

Can anyone make that happen for me:)

As far as I know, the only team that we could trade down with to get two lottery picks is Philly. And that's only if they receive LA's top 5 protected pick this year. Why is Philly trading two lottery picks for one lottery pick?

Because maybe they think highly of a particular player?

It goes against everything Hinkie has done since taking over in Philly. His whole plan is asset collection and I don't see how trading, at worst, the 5th and 6th overall picks in the draft to move up to 1 (FYI, their worst case scenario for picks is 6th and 7th but that means we'll have fallen to 4th. Philly can get the 5th and 6th picks and we can still have 1st overall). As much as I like Towns, and I've been on the Towns bandwagon all season, I don't believe that anyone predicted to go in the lottery is anywhere near a sure thing, superstar, MVP-caliber player the way Anthony Davis or Kevin Durant were.

And besides, if Philly doesn't get the Lakers' pick then this whole scenario is impossible unless we somehow trade Melo to a lottery team.

Philly does still not yet have a franchise player, and that's why they have flipped players. They still looking.

Embiid, ignoring his injury problems, is a better prospect than anyone in this draft. And, there's no sure thing at the top of this draft; it's very possible that the best player drafted this Summer is outside of the top 3 which is why Briggs is talking about trading down for two lottery picks.

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to grab Hezonja and Kaminsky. In round #2 targets Dez Wells Joe Young

Free agent target Enes Kanter full max

Main trade target--Walter Taveras C Atlanta possession from 2nd round last year. I would be willing to give up a 2018 #1 pick(top 5 protected) to get them an additional #1 this year in a swap. Secondary is Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF from UNLV draft eligible.

Can anyone make that happen for me:)

As far as I know, the only team that we could trade down with to get two lottery picks is Philly. And that's only if they receive LA's top 5 protected pick this year. Why is Philly trading two lottery picks for one lottery pick?

Depends what their needs are.

There are obviously scenarios where we just take a pick. Im only saying my view. MY view is this

IF it is poossible trade #1 pick to acquire two lower picks to get Hezonja and Kaminsky--both are rated on avg below 7--so if we get 1-2 thats fair value. I really think Hezonga is going to be a star SG its very rare you can find a 6-8 athletic SG like that. Kaminsky is a little under rated like Vucevic was--and I like to take advantage of the naysayers.

Using my 2018 to potentially get Taveras or Wood. We need a shot blocker. I like both--I do NOT think Atlanta will deal him--so that would leave Wood.

The entire draft as based around our ability to get 1 of Kanter Lopez or Monroe in that order.

And lastly staying aggressive to bring intwo guards that I think will make the team for depth in the backcourt

Potential grab

C/PF Frank Kamnisky 7-0 245
C/PF Enes Kanter 6-11 265
C Walter Taveras 7-3 265 or Christian Wood 7-0 220

SG Mario Hezonga SG 6-8 210
SG Dez Wells SG 6-5 225

PG Joseph Young 6-2 180

Projection to move Carmelo to 3
Resign Alexy Schevyd as PG

I have 10mm to spend on hat I might need when the dust clears. Ive brought in a lot of size(which we so desperately have needed for 15 years) I think a SG who may one day be an all star and some good guard depth. We just need so much help that finding the quality depth that fits was the goal.

This is the skeleton basis of what I would try to accomplish.

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to grab Hezonja and Kaminsky. In round #2 targets Dez Wells Joe Young

Free agent target Enes Kanter full max

Main trade target--Walter Taveras C Atlanta possession from 2nd round last year. I would be willing to give up a 2018 #1 pick(top 5 protected) to get them an additional #1 this year in a swap. Secondary is Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF from UNLV draft eligible.

Can anyone make that happen for me:)

As far as I know, the only team that we could trade down with to get two lottery picks is Philly. And that's only if they receive LA's top 5 protected pick this year. Why is Philly trading two lottery picks for one lottery pick?

Depends what their needs are.

Are their needs fundamentally different from our needs? If it's a good idea for us to trade down for two lottery picks why is it a good idea for them to trade up for one?

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VCoug wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:to grab Hezonja and Kaminsky. In round #2 targets Dez Wells Joe Young

Free agent target Enes Kanter full max

Main trade target--Walter Taveras C Atlanta possession from 2nd round last year. I would be willing to give up a 2018 #1 pick(top 5 protected) to get them an additional #1 this year in a swap. Secondary is Christian Wood 7-0 C/PF from UNLV draft eligible.

Can anyone make that happen for me:)

As far as I know, the only team that we could trade down with to get two lottery picks is Philly. And that's only if they receive LA's top 5 protected pick this year. Why is Philly trading two lottery picks for one lottery pick?

Depends what their needs are.

Are their needs fundamentally different from our needs? If it's a good idea for us to trade down for two lottery picks why is it a good idea for them to trade up for one?

Depends on their needs.

I'm not sure I agree with Briggs trade scenarios. But I rather trade OK4 for Russell and a low pick or veteran player. Then look for a big at the bottom of the draft. Stein, Turner, there will be a 7fter who will drop in this draft.....There are too many of them. Or trade OK4 for Towns, plus a player they may want to unload due to cap space.

The point is there are probably a 100 different trade scenarios we all could make up. Phil may not be the best GM, but he doesn't appear to be someone thats going to be low balled like our past GMs. If nothing is available, then he will go with the obvious...OK4 or Towns.....It's a win, win position to be in.