blkexec wrote:Draft Russell....Mudiay is more of a PG with SG size. Not sure about his defense, but he has defensive potential for his size and quickness.

Russell is a legit SG with SG size and PG passing skills. Not sure about his defense, but he's better than Calderon. If you want to grown a SG, Russell is your man.

Yeah i'd draft Russell over Mudiay because the only 3 point shooter we have now is Timmy and as we all know Timmy has proven anything in this league yet. I like Mudiay and think he's gonna be a really good PG in the NBA but we absolutely need guys that can shoot the ball if we wanna be a successful team.

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Every post from you is an attempt to be personal and nasty. I'm sure I could post negative stuff about others as well but I'm not like that in real life I actually have a sliver of integrity and class.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50821

You mean like this, Freakshow?

You change your mind every 3-5 days about trade scenarios and player targets and team building methodology. What about that isn't true? Most of them are driven by players who are recently having a strong stretch of play and high production. Stuckey, Middleton, Kanter, do I need to go on? What part of that isn't true? When others say things like several season of a guy like Kanter haven't shown he's a good passer or defender or that his production might not translate in a different team/circumstance, you say those people are wrong, and look at the guys age and his recent play. What part of that isn't true?

I don't need to make you look stupid Briggs, you make yourself look stupid, all the time. Which is perfectly ok, callmened is right, we are all entitled to an opinion. Except you are such a gigantic dick to everyone about yours. If you want to pose a different thread five times a day about some rookie you like, or some trade you want, if it amuses you, so be it. But you can't seem to do without the general douchebaggery in tow.

Probably going a bit too far...no. Don't see this type of thing helping the situation, and you probably hurt your position by using the language you used.

For what it's worth, Briggs seems to look at all the angles, and I don't have much of a problem with a person's views changing as a season goes along. I can understand that you think Briggs comes across as very confident in his opinions, and this seems to be what you are reacting to, but they are still opinions, nonetheless. I agree or disagree with him all the time...not a big thing.

You look at the NCAA and the fact that we are looking at freshmen as our top picks, and over the course of a single 35(or so)game season you have to make judgments as fans about who the best players are because you will not get a chance to see them at the workouts they do for teams later on in the year. As the season has developed certain players have risen to the occasion, while others have reached a kind of performance plateau.

I've gone up and down on various college players, and have doubts about a lot of the guys we will be looking at if we are lucky to get the top pick. Guys like OK4, Russell, and Johnson have dropped in the draft in my eyes, while players like Kaminsky and Winslow have have improved their status. Still not sure of Towns, and I have just not seen enough of Super-Mario or Mudiay to feel confident about how good they are and can be. This is what happens when you are looking a lot of talented kids with limited track records. Stein and Kaminsky have been around longer, and in some ways they are easier to evaluate, but they are also playing in systems that make use of their talents and hide their deficiencies, so who knows about how they will perform in the NBA.

As for the NBA, I'm not as confident about Kanter as Briggs is, but he sure seems to be playing a better brand of ball, even though he benefits from a guy like Westbrook as his PG. I've disagreed with him about Kanter, and I'm a believer that how a guy plays on one team or in one system can distort the value of a player to your team.

Just think that you are going a bit overboard in how you criticize, and even if you feel slighted by someones sense of superiority as a poster, I'm not sure that justifies the language some use to criticize.

Just my two cents on this matter.

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Every post from you is an attempt to be personal and nasty. I'm sure I could post negative stuff about others as well but I'm not like that in real life I actually have a sliver of integrity and class.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50821

You mean like this, Freakshow?

You change your mind every 3-5 days about trade scenarios and player targets and team building methodology. What about that isn't true? Most of them are driven by players who are recently having a strong stretch of play and high production. Stuckey, Middleton, Kanter, do I need to go on? What part of that isn't true? When others say things like several season of a guy like Kanter haven't shown he's a good passer or defender or that his production might not translate in a different team/circumstance, you say those people are wrong, and look at the guys age and his recent play. What part of that isn't true?

I don't need to make you look stupid Briggs, you make yourself look stupid, all the time. Which is perfectly ok, callmened is right, we are all entitled to an opinion. Except you are such a gigantic dick to everyone about yours. If you want to pose a different thread five times a day about some rookie you like, or some trade you want, if it amuses you, so be it. But you can't seem to do without the general douchebaggery in tow.

I don't normally weigh in on pissing matches, but I got to call you out TT. Briggs states his opinion and yeah, it changes over time. But wtf is wrong with that. Honestly TT, Briggs doesn't look stupid by your post, his commentary over the last decade has made me keep coming back. His posts on players start good conversations that continue for weeks at a time. AND, I do not recall a single instance of him taking it personal. If anything, he is willing to show his face to anyone who wants to call him out instead of hiding behind fake names. In any event, almost seems like some young punks are going after the mainstay posters here in an attempt to alienate them. There are more childish sites for that kind of behavior.