TPercy wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

TPercy wrote:Dream Team:
PG-Beverley
SG-Green
SF-Melo
PF-Draymond Green
C-Towns

This team wouldnt win 41 games in the west.

And if I can take any unrealistic free agent heres my gig. I think my team would win 4-0 easily.

C Deandre Jordan
PF Jahill Okafor
SF Carmelo Anthony
SG Khris Middelton
PG Alex Shevyd

Okafor and Melo playing at the same time? not gonna work.

I don't see a clash here with OK4 and Melo. What's the complaint? If anything i'd wonder how the offense works with Jordan not being able to score from anywhere but at the basket. I would guess that OK4 would have to look to set up Jordan for Alley Oops out of double teams in the post. They'd have to really keep it moving with the off ball cuts etc to keep defenses honest.

he gets a lot of opportunities in spread pnr sets.. he had that in dallas where he flourished... and now in phoenix... he's really good finishing in the paint but that's really all he can do... he's already 27 with lots of injury plagued years in the league.. he's a subpar rebounder.. an ok help defender but too skinny to really bang on a regular basis...

he's very flawed in an expanded role... he's a super role player who's very specialized and performs his role... asking him to expand his game would be disastrous...

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:I must admit that doing this was very enlightening. Some players surprised me by where they end up on the list. Brandon Wright in particular blew me away. I had no idea he was so impactful.

The list is somewhat skewed. If you went by this list you wouldve had a great free agency by taking

#4 Jeremy Evans
#13 Jeff Withey
#16 Jerome Jordan
#17 Johns Jenkins

4 top 17 players are the same thing as D league fodder and I guess Branden Wright is in line for a maximum contract??

There should be a minutes per game cut off number 1. Meaning you need to play substantial minutes per game to even count. This does not take into account style of play teammates injury profile players body type speed--there is so much missing to paint a whole picture.. Way too many variables missing here.

C towns
Pf love (or Monroe or Millsap)
SF Anthony
SG d green
Pg shved

we think your a perfect fit for the triangle, although we have no core, no leader, a suspect coaching staff, and i'm dealing with a ton of health issues that keeps me away from the team, we feel that with our young 19 yr old rookie and melo, we'll be prime to make a run in 5 yrs.

what I can tell you for sure is that your minutes will be erratic as hell, the triangle takes at least a yr or 2 to truly grasp, and in the first 3 month of the season, if i see guys are not getting it, i will fire fish, dump a player or 2 or 3 for cap space and a 2nd rounder for 2016, because we have no picks as it stand now. So what do say, sounds like good plan Uh?

knicks1248 wrote:whats phils pitch going to be to FA

we think your a perfect fit for the triangle, although we have no core, no leader, a suspect coaching staff, and i'm dealing with a ton of health issues that keeps me away from the team, we feel that with our young 19 yr old rookie and melo, we'll be prime to make a run in 5 yrs.

what I can tell you for sure is that your minutes will be erratic as hell, the triangle takes at least a yr or 2 to truly grasp, and in the first 3 month of the season, if i see guys are not getting it, i will fire fish, dump a player or 2 or 3 for cap space and a 2nd rounder for 2016, because we have no picks as it stand now. So what do say, sounds like good plan Uh?

Measure that!!!!!!

Clinical should always count but the eye test is also important. Kwai Leonard was the MVP.

Ok4/Towns
Butler
Melo

Russell
Monroe
Melo

Good core with upside and mix of Vet, rising talent and rookie.

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:whats phils pitch going to be to FA

we think your a perfect fit for the triangle, although we have no core, no leader, a suspect coaching staff, and i'm dealing with a ton of health issues that keeps me away from the team, we feel that with our young 19 yr old rookie and melo, we'll be prime to make a run in 5 yrs.

what I can tell you for sure is that your minutes will be erratic as hell, the triangle takes at least a yr or 2 to truly grasp, and in the first 3 month of the season, if i see guys are not getting it, i will fire fish, dump a player or 2 or 3 for cap space and a 2nd rounder for 2016, because we have no picks as it stand now. So what do say, sounds like good plan Uh?

what do you think NBA player's perceptions of Fisher and Phil are? Not sure your quite grounded in your thoughts there.

I'm sure the perception is worse now than it was a year ago

Ideally build a team for a great free agent in 2016 and look to get melo healthy and trade him.

Bonn1997 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TPercy wrote:Alexey shved at 135...and people have the nerve to say he is "barely an NBA player"

It just goes to show that the Knicks aren't as lost on this kind of stuff as it seems. Remember he wasn't some throw in on a trade. The targeted Shved. They made a separate deal for him using a Trade Exception that Phil got for Felton. So Felton did something good for the team on the way out.

We need for Phil to do even more with his cap space this summer and get a few more high impact players from this list. He won't have to overspend on one guy in order to get great value.

That comment would make sense if Shved was one of many impressive win share players Phil acquired, but not when Shved is the top WS player on the team. 14 of our 15 players have WS48 figures below the league average!

The fact that he was able to get one for practically nothing is the point here and not that he hasn't yet added more. Perspective!