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BRIGGS
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For Kevin Durant and his 22mm $ salary straight up
Yes hes one of the best players in the league I would be willing to risk the injury
We need this pick worse than a Fat lady needs a a Big Mac
I would trade it for an existing player but not Durant like Al Horford
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TPercy
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3/23/2015  9:35 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I would tande that pick for Westbrook and two additional first round pikspicks

MVP of the league plus two first round picks for our one and only pick is considered a rape? I hope you meant we would be commiting the rape


Oh okay! you worded it differently You said trade that pick for westbrook and two more additional picks.
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3/23/2015  10:26 PM
88.89% We need this pick worse than a Fat lady needs a a Big Mac
Bring on those Big Macs...
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3/24/2015  6:28 AM
I understand the injury MIGHT be a concern, but I believe there are people on this board that would not execute the trade for a 100% healthy KD. I think it's probably because we have failed so many trades in the past.
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3/24/2015  6:36 AM
tj23 wrote:I understand the injury MIGHT be a concern, but I believe there are people on this board that would not execute the trade for a 100% healthy KD. I think it's probably because we have failed so many trades in the past.

It's strange because when we've kept our lottery picks (Sweetney, Frye), that's always failed too. If Durant was healthy, you'd have to immediately do this trade. I wouldn't do it for an injured Durant though.
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3/24/2015  10:29 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If Durant was healthy is available in any way or shape or form, you'd have to immediately do this trade.


If OKC actually put Durant on the block, there would be 31 teams interested in him and only Anthony Davis and LBJ would be considered not on the block. Any other player in the league would be open game for any type of trade. Any type of future asset.

Correction, if Briggs was running the Knicks, there would 30 teams gunning for a once in a franchise type moment game changer situation that they will all fight for, and one team that would apparently trade future assets for a guy named Porzingas, but not a 26 year old MVP in Kevin Durant.

If Sam Presti traded Durant now, and only got a first overall pick for his trouble, if the Knicks got it, under Brigg's bizarro world scenario, his name would be burned in effigy in sports lore like Mario Mendoza and Mike Mamula and Tommy John. I'm not sure Presti would be able to get his kids out of the city before someone shot out their kneecaps and blinded them with a blowtorch.

Lol your posts get more bizarre per entry. I'm sure NBA GMs are in the business of paying top dollar for damaged goods. If I remember just a few years ago we took a100 mm risk on a player who the MDS said don't do it. Go do some homework on this injury One lottery pick. Can you give me some kind of comp for your absurd scenario where a team gave up a potential number 1 pick for an injured player? You talk a big game but I find that your basketball facts and knowledge are very limited.

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3/24/2015  10:39 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If Durant was healthy is available in any way or shape or form, you'd have to immediately do this trade.


If OKC actually put Durant on the block, there would be 31 teams interested in him and only Anthony Davis and LBJ would be considered not on the block. Any other player in the league would be open game for any type of trade. Any type of future asset.

Correction, if Briggs was running the Knicks, there would 30 teams gunning for a once in a franchise type moment game changer situation that they will all fight for, and one team that would apparently trade future assets for a guy named Porzingas, but not a 26 year old MVP in Kevin Durant.

If Sam Presti traded Durant now, and only got a first overall pick for his trouble, if the Knicks got it, under Brigg's bizarro world scenario, his name would be burned in effigy in sports lore like Mario Mendoza and Mike Mamula and Tommy John. I'm not sure Presti would be able to get his kids out of the city before someone shot out their kneecaps and blinded them with a blowtorch.

Presti would rightfully be burned in effigy but... it still wouldn't be a good trade for us. Durant only has one more year on his contract, I would gauge the chances of us resigning him to be around 5%.

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3/24/2015  11:16 PM
I want the pick. I can have 1 or 2 max free agents and possibly a number 1 overall added to Melo in one offseason. Not sure I trade that for another guy that plays the same position as the other guy making 22mm on my roster. That's $44mm for two SFs. AND, I don't really know that Durant and Melo will co-exist when one plays out of position. Yes, Melo has a speed advantage on offense at the PF, but I think we give up a ton on defense.
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3/24/2015  11:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/24/2015  11:39 PM
Sam Presti-- Hey triple threat Durant is healthy. I'm not going to be able to show you he can play 5 games without reccurence but trust me he's good to go-- hey MVP right?! Just give me your draft picks in 2016 2018 and 2020 and you get the prize-- what are draft pix anyway right?
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3/24/2015  11:45 PM
i would trade for KD sure.
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3/25/2015  12:00 AM
If you voted to trade for Durant -- start by reading this.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12521706/kevin-durant-oklahoma-city-thunder-removed-basketball-activities

When you fail to comprehend what that means, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_fracture

They already tried the more aggressive approach to get him healed by inserting the screw. That did not work. So they shut him down.

This injury will complicate in the future. Don't trade for what KD was. Consider what he is now -- damaged goods. Could he prove me wrong -- I ABSOLUTELY HOPE SO. I wish him well. But for a franchise envisioning a rebirth, I can't bet on a guy with this injury.

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3/25/2015  12:11 AM
TripleThreat wrote:You are basically pushing the idea that Durant would choose to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway. Alone, going crazy, talking to a volleyball, in the middle of hell. Because choosing the Knicks if he demanded a trade would essentially be that.

Omigod, sometimes you are just a fantastic satirical writer; you are the Michael O'Donoghue of the Knicks board. Anyone who knows who that is gets a gold star.

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3/25/2015  12:16 AM
Splat wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:You are basically pushing the idea that Durant would choose to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway. Alone, going crazy, talking to a volleyball, in the middle of hell. Because choosing the Knicks if he demanded a trade would essentially be that.

Omigod, sometimes you are just a fantastic satirical writer; you are the Michael O'Donoghue of the Knicks board. Anyone who knows who that is gets a gold star.

He is the guy who came up with SNL right?

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3/25/2015  12:16 AM
Splat wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:You are basically pushing the idea that Durant would choose to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway. Alone, going crazy, talking to a volleyball, in the middle of hell. Because choosing the Knicks if he demanded a trade would essentially be that.

Omigod, sometimes you are just a fantastic satirical writer; you are the Michael O'Donoghue of the Knicks board. Anyone who knows who that is gets a gold star.

He's the same guy who said Denver would never give up a number 1 pick to get rid of mcg3ee. In fact if you read tts actual basketball posts --- even going back to his own strategy and words " just pick the big black guy" he seems to know little about NBA basketball.

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3/25/2015  12:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2015  12:54 AM
I'd definitely considering trading down if the price were right but I wouldn't trade out of the draft. The only way I'd even consider that is if Anthony Davis were involved and the only way I could see that happening is if we liquidate Carmelo's value and combine most of those assets with the pick. For the record though, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Davis is a generational talent and with the impending cap explosion, could build a contender overnight.
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3/25/2015  12:33 AM
TPercy wrote:
Splat wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:You are basically pushing the idea that Durant would choose to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway. Alone, going crazy, talking to a volleyball, in the middle of hell. Because choosing the Knicks if he demanded a trade would essentially be that.

Omigod, sometimes you are just a fantastic satirical writer; you are the Michael O'Donoghue of the Knicks board. Anyone who knows who that is gets a gold star.

He is the guy who came up with SNL right?

Gold star awarded. He was on the first writing team at SNL. Before that he was one of the forces at National Lampoon magazine which was a totally sick, anarchistic part of American culture (way more out than than the Nat Lamp movies (though Animal House was pretty rad)). He was SNL's equivalent of Hunter S. Thompson.

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3/25/2015  12:46 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Sam Presti-- Hey triple threat Durant is healthy. I'm not going to be able to show you he can play 5 games without reccurence but trust me he's good to go-- hey MVP right?! Just give me your draft picks in 2016 2018 and 2020 and you get the prize-- what are draft pix anyway right?

We did that for a 30 year old T-Mac and look how that turned out. I'm with you about Durant. There needs to be a wait and see approach.

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3/25/2015  6:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/25/2015  6:19 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Splat wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:You are basically pushing the idea that Durant would choose to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway. Alone, going crazy, talking to a volleyball, in the middle of hell. Because choosing the Knicks if he demanded a trade would essentially be that.

Omigod, sometimes you are just a fantastic satirical writer; you are the Michael O'Donoghue of the Knicks board. Anyone who knows who that is gets a gold star.

He's the same guy who said Denver would never give up a number 1 pick to get rid of mcg3ee. In fact if you read tts actual basketball posts --- even going back to his own strategy and words " just pick the big black guy" he seems to know little about NBA basketball.


Briggs, do you really want to start judging guys by the worst predictions they've made? It's not going to be pretty if people bump the predictions made for this year's Knicks team.
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3/25/2015  6:28 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Splat wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:You are basically pushing the idea that Durant would choose to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway. Alone, going crazy, talking to a volleyball, in the middle of hell. Because choosing the Knicks if he demanded a trade would essentially be that.

Omigod, sometimes you are just a fantastic satirical writer; you are the Michael O'Donoghue of the Knicks board. Anyone who knows who that is gets a gold star.

He's the same guy who said Denver would never give up a number 1 pick to get rid of mcg3ee. In fact if you read tts actual basketball posts --- even going back to his own strategy and words " just pick the big black guy" he seems to know little about NBA basketball.


Briggs, do you really want to start judging guys by the worst predictions they've made? It's not going to be pretty if people bump the predictions made for this year's Knicks team.

I don't understand what is going on, but I piped in because this notion of going on archaeological digs to prove another poster was wrong strikes me as a poor use of time and energy.

The way I see it is this: If someone was wrong and they want to acknowledge that, they will. But trying to dredge it up and point fingers at them for being wrong is kind of lame. I don't keep bookmarks on posts to pull up in the future to shame other people. But I see some do that. IMO that's crap. What seems valid to me is to stick to your guns and if you're wrong, then big fukking deal. But saving up historical records to play back and go nah nah nah is sad.

We all have basic memories intact on what our positions are vis-a-vis the Knicks, so just say your piece and move on.

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3/25/2015  7:15 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Splat wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:You are basically pushing the idea that Durant would choose to be like Tom Hanks in Castaway. Alone, going crazy, talking to a volleyball, in the middle of hell. Because choosing the Knicks if he demanded a trade would essentially be that.

Omigod, sometimes you are just a fantastic satirical writer; you are the Michael O'Donoghue of the Knicks board. Anyone who knows who that is gets a gold star.

He's the same guy who said Denver would never give up a number 1 pick to get rid of mcg3ee. In fact if you read tts actual basketball posts --- even going back to his own strategy and words " just pick the big black guy" he seems to know little about NBA basketball.


Briggs, do you really want to start judging guys by the worst predictions they've made? It's not going to be pretty if people bump the predictions made for this year's Knicks team.
I remember reading a really funny post where JRod appointed someone their own personal TKF. I think Briggs has one in TT. The guy seems to stalk him a bit. Another poster asked TT if Briggs killed his dog. I think for the most part Briggs has stayed out of the fray with TT.
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3/25/2015  9:51 AM
TripleThreat wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If Durant was healthy is available in any way or shape or form, you'd have to immediately do this trade.


If OKC actually put Durant on the block, there would be 31 teams interested in him and only Anthony Davis and LBJ would be considered not on the block. Any other player in the league would be open game for any type of trade. Any type of future asset.

Correction, if Briggs was running the Knicks, there would 30 teams gunning for a once in a franchise type moment game changer situation that they will all fight for, and one team that would apparently trade future assets for a guy named Porzingas, but not a 26 year old MVP in Kevin Durant.

If Sam Presti traded Durant now, and only got a first overall pick for his trouble, if the Knicks got it, under Brigg's bizarro world scenario, his name would be burned in effigy in sports lore like Mario Mendoza and Mike Mamula and Tommy John. I'm not sure Presti would be able to get his kids out of the city before someone shot out their kneecaps and blinded them with a blowtorch.

Lol your posts get more bizarre per entry. I'm sure NBA GMs are in the business of paying top dollar for damaged goods. If I remember just a few years ago we took a100 mm risk on a player who the MDS said don't do it. Go do some homework on this injury One lottery pick. Can you give me some kind of comp for your absurd scenario where a team gave up a potential number 1 pick for an injured player? You talk a big game but I find that your basketball facts and knowledge are very limited.


For Briggs and some of you, a Jones Fracture = A Bullet In The Head

And that's simply not the case.

What's absurd and bizarre is your insistence that OKC will trade Durant while currently injured, they will do so to the Knicks, as if they would have no other options, and would only do so for a PICK THE KNICKS DON'T EVEN HAVE YET AND MAY NEVER HAVE. How can you call anyone else absurd when you are talking about a pick the Knicks don't even own yet. Ted Stepien was stopped from trading future picks his team had a right to, you are trying to outdo Stepien by protecting a projected No#1 overall pick the Knicks haven't even won a draft lottery for yet. Against 75 percent odds that they won't get it, if they even stay on course to be the worst record team in the league.

Kevin Durant is a 26 year old MVP, a high IQ player who is essentially a 7 footer with elite long range shooting. Even at 80 percent or even at 50 percent, his talent tier is so high, he would still be a bargain as a risk for future injury for, the Inception like trade rape in a trade rape scenario Briggs has concocted by parroting some NY writer, a single first round draft pick.

NBA GMs are in the business of trying to make their teams better and to win a championship. Again, we are talking about a 26 year old MVP, whose intangibles are off the chart ( good leadership, handles the press well, humble, well liked by team mates and around the league, extremely marketable, would cause interest in any destination franchise to go through the roof) and whose production floor ( a floor spacing Stretch 4 gunner with an elite 3 point shot and high IQ passing in the high post) is so high, that even at a percentage of his former skill set, if it came to that, would still be a valuable asset to any team.

You want me to give you a scenario where someone gives up a future No#1 they don't even have yet for an injured player in a trade?

After I just pointed out, exhaustively, that injured players in Durant's situation don't get traded until they stop being injured, that the Knicks might not win the draft lottery, that OKC would have little to no incentive to trade Durant right now, and if they did, they'd have better options than the Knicks and would get a far higher return than your single draft pick Book Depository/Single Shooter conspiracy theory, and since Durant has leverage, that there is nothing linking him to NY, and if there was, he'd be entering one of the worst possible franchise situations possible.

You want me to prove to you why a trade scenario you concocted, with so many factors making it unlikely ( unlikely is a very generous word here, no chance in hell is probably more appropriate) is plausible and makes sense when you constructed this bizarro shot in the dark trade rape in the first place?

Briggs, only you could be such a gigantic idiot here as to come up with a far fetched trade rape trying to protect a pick the Knicks don't even have yet and OKC would never make and then demand I prove you why it's not a far fetched trade rape. Except in your bizarro version, OKC would be trade raping the Knicks because apparently Kevin Durant is like a piece of trash dumped on the curbside.

Say what you want to take shots about my basketball knowledge, go ahead, but I know this much

If you had a chance, even in a far fetched trade rape in a trade rape Inception scenario created by Briggs, to get a 26 year old MVP/Olympian/scoring champion/top 3 franchise player with off the charts intangibles in Kevin Durant for pennies on the dollar, even with injury risk and even at risk for trading a potential first overall pick, then you run, not walk, you leap up and you snatch that deal. When you get the rare chance at a game changing player, a franchise changing player, you take that risk.

What are the odds of Durant coming back from a Jones Fracture?

Dude, what are the odds that you would get a chance, any chance, in your franchises lifetime to get a proven 26 year old MVP and future Hall of Famer at, factoring in your far fetched trade rape scenario, pennies on the dollar?

hhhmmm interesting ... so its not just me

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Would you trade pick 1 or 2

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