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Facts:
-Alexey Shved is shooting at an impressive 38 from 3 for the Knicks( top 40 in the League)
- 21.3 Per(league average is 15)
-55.3% TS
-15-3-4 for the Knicks
-Proven he can compete against the NBA's best.

Negatives
- Takes contested shots
-Can be streaky and rush the offense
- Can be lazy on defense at times.

Do share your views on him!

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TPercy
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3/22/2015  3:37 PM
I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.
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3/22/2015  3:40 PM
TPercy wrote:I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.

like who? Brian Shaw is available ...

The NBA players with the most triangle experience are all on this sh1tty team.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/22/2015  3:50 PM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.

like who? Brian Shaw is available ...

The NBA players with the most triangle experience are all on this sh1tty team.

That's true, maybe we can make Fisher a player-coach?
Well, the vet pg might not have to have expierence playing in the triangle per se but has skills that can fit the triangle and provide some great leadership, Jason Terry comes to mind.

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3/22/2015  3:58 PM
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.

like who? Brian Shaw is available ...

The NBA players with the most triangle experience are all on this sh1tty team.

That's true, maybe we can make Fisher a player-coach?
Well, the vet pg might not have to have expierence playing in the triangle per se but has skills that can fit the triangle and provide some great leadership, Jason Terry comes to mind.

Jason Terry? Oy vey!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/22/2015  4:05 PM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.

like who? Brian Shaw is available ...

The NBA players with the most triangle experience are all on this sh1tty team.

That's true, maybe we can make Fisher a player-coach?
Well, the vet pg might not have to have expierence playing in the triangle per se but has skills that can fit the triangle and provide some great leadership, Jason Terry comes to mind.

Jason Terry? Oy vey!

What is up with him

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3/22/2015  4:10 PM
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.

like who? Brian Shaw is available ...

The NBA players with the most triangle experience are all on this sh1tty team.

That's true, maybe we can make Fisher a player-coach?
Well, the vet pg might not have to have expierence playing in the triangle per se but has skills that can fit the triangle and provide some great leadership, Jason Terry comes to mind.

Jason Terry? Oy vey!

What is up with him

Don't care for him.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/22/2015  4:11 PM
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.

like who? Brian Shaw is available ...

The NBA players with the most triangle experience are all on this sh1tty team.

That's true, maybe we can make Fisher a player-coach?
Well, the vet pg might not have to have expierence playing in the triangle per se but has skills that can fit the triangle and provide some great leadership, Jason Terry comes to mind.

Jason Terry? Oy vey!

What is up with him

Besides the fact tha he is about 50 years old and not a PG?
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3/22/2015  4:29 PM
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:I agree with blecexc and reinman about vet pg, espeically one that has expeirence in the triangle.

like who? Brian Shaw is available ...

The NBA players with the most triangle experience are all on this sh1tty team.

That's true, maybe we can make Fisher a player-coach?
Well, the vet pg might not have to have expierence playing in the triangle per se but has skills that can fit the triangle and provide some great leadership, Jason Terry comes to mind.

Jason Terry? Oy vey!

What is up with him

He's old and terrible?

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3/22/2015  6:41 PM
Great 3pt shooter, provides great leadership through his 15 years of experience and he is on twenty minutes game. Just an idea.
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3/23/2015  9:48 AM
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Bonn1997 wrote:If he keeps playing like this, I definitely want him on the roster. Whether he starts depends on who else we add.
He couldn't start on a contender

If have to disagree shaved would be a triple double threat on a contender ... He sets his teammates up beautifully with wide open looks... To bad it's to Lou,Thomas,smith all three struggle to hit open shots and wide open layups... If shved is able to feed ok4 , top FA, & Melo he might be top 10 assets leader and as well as leading the team going to the free throw line, getting open looks will only help his shooting % ... Phil found our future starting combo guard in shved... He should be a knick for a while... Next year is simple pick up his 4 mil team option
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3/23/2015  10:05 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If he keeps playing like this, I definitely want him on the roster. Whether he starts depends on who else we add.
He couldn't start on a contender

If have to disagree shaved would be a triple double threat on a contender ... He sets his teammates up beautifully with wide open looks... To bad it's to Lou,Thomas,smith all three struggle to hit open shots and wide open layups... If shved is able to feed ok4 , top FA, & Melo he might be top 10 assets leader and as well as leading the team going to the free throw line, getting open looks will only help his shooting % ... Phil found our future starting combo guard in shved... He should be a knick for a while... Next year is simple pick up his 4 mil team option

yea I dont know what his #s would be but I would really like to see him with a couple legit scorers.

It all depends on who we get and what the team looks like next year.

Its a flui process and we take it slow. Shved has earned a spot next year whether its just playing at the QO or he take an extension. I like 3 years at $12mm. If someone offers him a MLE I probably match.

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3/23/2015  10:19 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If he keeps playing like this, I definitely want him on the roster. Whether he starts depends on who else we add.
He couldn't start on a contender

If have to disagree shaved would be a triple double threat on a contender ... He sets his teammates up beautifully with wide open looks... To bad it's to Lou,Thomas,smith all three struggle to hit open shots and wide open layups... If shved is able to feed ok4 , top FA, & Melo he might be top 10 assets leader and as well as leading the team going to the free throw line, getting open looks will only help his shooting % ... Phil found our future starting combo guard in shved... He should be a knick for a while... Next year is simple pick up his 4 mil team option

shouldn't we/you have already learned a lesson about calling a completely unproven a player a star?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/23/2015  10:25 AM
blkexec wrote:For us to be a championship team, I think we need to add an old vet at PG. Shevd is good, on a bad team. Reminds me of Lin, when Melo and others were all injured. When the stars return, they are different players. Thats why Melo and this team needs a vet at PG, if we really want to make some noise. Russell might be an exception.

IDK, Lin won 6 straight when he got the starting gig, once there was a full scouting report on lin, he never had time to adjust and he got hurt.
Shved always showed signs, but it hasn't been on a wining team yet, and he plays like that sometimes, he's very careless and out of control at times. I think he's definitely a solid 25 minute a night player, but i don't think he's a starter on a contender, and im talking playoffs or championship. At least not yet.

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3/23/2015  10:28 AM
mreinman wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If he keeps playing like this, I definitely want him on the roster. Whether he starts depends on who else we add.
He couldn't start on a contender

If have to disagree shaved would be a triple double threat on a contender ... He sets his teammates up beautifully with wide open looks... To bad it's to Lou,Thomas,smith all three struggle to hit open shots and wide open layups... If shved is able to feed ok4 , top FA, & Melo he might be top 10 assets leader and as well as leading the team going to the free throw line, getting open looks will only help his shooting % ... Phil found our future starting combo guard in shved... He should be a knick for a while... Next year is simple pick up his 4 mil team option

shouldn't we/you have already learned a lesson about calling a completely unproven a player a star?


I don't see the word "Star" in his post. fitzfarm is right about Shved's passing ability. Shved would have more assists playing with better talent and he's been showing that he wants to stay. He's working hard for rebounds, pushing the ball, setting up teammates and driving the way we need. Heck he even has been hitting his 3's. He wasn't just thrown into a trade. Shved was targeted for his skills and fit for this team. He had to come in and prove it and he has. Before you look down on him think about finding another 26 yr old 6'6" PG with his talent. It's not going to be easy to find that combination. Whether he starts or not is going to be up to whether we can find a better player. If we do, that's gonna be great cuz we'd still have Shved providing great production off the bench.
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3/23/2015  10:30 AM
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:For us to be a championship team, I think we need to add an old vet at PG. Shevd is good, on a bad team. Reminds me of Lin, when Melo and others were all injured. When the stars return, they are different players. Thats why Melo and this team needs a vet at PG, if we really want to make some noise. Russell might be an exception.

yeah ... we def need a vet pg. who do you have in mind?

mo williams, and rondo

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nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:If he keeps playing like this, I definitely want him on the roster. Whether he starts depends on who else we add.
He couldn't start on a contender

If have to disagree shaved would be a triple double threat on a contender ... He sets his teammates up beautifully with wide open looks... To bad it's to Lou,Thomas,smith all three struggle to hit open shots and wide open layups... If shved is able to feed ok4 , top FA, & Melo he might be top 10 assets leader and as well as leading the team going to the free throw line, getting open looks will only help his shooting % ... Phil found our future starting combo guard in shved... He should be a knick for a while... Next year is simple pick up his 4 mil team option

shouldn't we/you have already learned a lesson about calling a completely unproven a player a star?


I don't see the word "Star" in his post. fitzfarm is right about Shved's passing ability. Shved would have more assists playing with better talent and he's been showing that he wants to stay. He's working hard for rebounds, pushing the ball, setting up teammates and driving the way we need. Heck he even has been hitting his 3's. He wasn't just thrown into a trade. Shved was targeted for his skills and fit for this team. He had to come in and prove it and he has. Before you look down on him think about finding another 26 yr old 6'6" PG with his talent. It's not going to be easy to find that combination. Whether he starts or not is going to be up to whether we can find a better player. If we do, that's gonna be great cuz we'd still have Shved providing great production off the bench.

Under MDA, lin and shved would be all stars

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3/23/2015  11:48 AM
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mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:For us to be a championship team, I think we need to add an old vet at PG. Shevd is good, on a bad team. Reminds me of Lin, when Melo and others were all injured. When the stars return, they are different players. Thats why Melo and this team needs a vet at PG, if we really want to make some noise. Russell might be an exception.

yeah ... we def need a vet pg. who do you have in mind?

mo williams, and rondo

yeah rondo ... hehe

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/23/2015  12:29 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:If he keeps playing like this, I definitely want him on the roster. Whether he starts depends on who else we add.

+1. I voted "no" in the poll only because we don't know if we will have better players.

But he certainly plays better then THjr.
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3/23/2015  12:44 PM
bottom line is Shved has played well enough where you want to see more. He's got some nice skills that can impact the game even when his shot isnt falling. Im really impressed by his passing and see that has his biggest + skill. After that its rebounding. His handle looks very good and he gets a lot of penetration. I would like to see him on the floor with some good NBA scorers.

That being said Ive seen enough to retain him and match a MLE type offer. Hopefully we can keep him cheaper than that. I doubt he's lighting up every scout's radar based on a few weeks with the Knicks but people are scouting this team.

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3/23/2015  12:53 PM
fishmike wrote:bottom line is Shved has played well enough where you want to see more. He's got some nice skills that can impact the game even when his shot isnt falling. Im really impressed by his passing and see that has his biggest + skill. After that its rebounding. His handle looks very good and he gets a lot of penetration. I would like to see him on the floor with some good NBA scorers.

That being said Ive seen enough to retain him and match a MLE type offer. Hopefully we can keep him cheaper than that. I doubt he's lighting up every scout's radar based on a few weeks with the Knicks but people are scouting this team.


I agree. One thing about BB IQ and Passing is that you can't really fake that or simply be "hot" when it comes to passing. Also you can either drive and finish effectively or you can't as we saw with Shump and even JR who we had to beg to drive. Shved does it naturally. Shved also uses his size well on both ends. He's providing more than I even hoped that Jose could provide. I knew Jose wasn't going to attack the basket and that he wasn't going to be a good defender. On top of that Shved actually rebounds the ball too. IMO I think people are nuts if they think that Shved isn't a candidate to start. Dude is ballin and filling up the boxscore. If he was any better we'd be in real trouble trying to keep him and who knows what other teams are thinking. Imagine if he does actually take his strength training more seriously this summer?
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