nixluva wrote:

Splat wrote:Yeah Nix. Mike Kurylo is an idiot and you are a genius.

His having a blog does't make him an expert or infallible. His arguments in his article are poorly conceived. It has nothing to do with him being an idiot or me somehow a genius. I merely pointed out the meaning behind his words when you carry them out to their full conclusion and what he was insinuating without directly stating all of his negative views. When you make statements like "for the Knicks to have any hope" it assumes that the team's options for success are extremely narrow. That makes little sense when you're talking about a team that has a chance at a top draft talent and also has cap space to be a buyer in the Free Agent Market. It's not often that this team has both this options available to it in order to rebuild a team. He's basically talking like a member of your Hate Club.

You never switch gears. Everyone who doesn't have the sense to see your point of view is an idiot. You say it repeatedly. All the time. I have extreme opinions of my own, but I don't call everyone an idiot because they disagree. You can't help yourself. Everything you post calls people stupid. Every single day. Like clockwork.

Splat wrote:He says exactly what I've said. Exactly. Hmmm

Key thing is this. Everything has to go right for this franchise to build a contender. Everything. It never does, so they won't. They'll just have another middle of the road club after this off-season and during Melo's tenure.

http://knickerblogger.net/this-is-why-the-knicks-have-no-hope/

This Is Why The Knicks Have No Hope
By Mike Kurylo - Published: 03/19/2015

As I said previously, I have little faith that this Knicks team will be good in the future. You might come to this conclusion from a number of indicators. You could look at their 14-53 record this season, tied for worst in the league. You could look at Phil Jackson’s tenure and there’s plenty of red flags there. The botching of the Steve Kerr hiring. The questionable hiring of Derek Fisher. The weird statements/tweets. The paltry returns on traded players. You could look at their eschewing of advanced statistics, as ESPN rated them 121 out of 122 professional franchises in using any reasonable numerical evidence to help assist with making decisions in a billion dollar field.

But if this report is true, it would indicate that there is no hope that this Knicks front office has any clue on how to build a winning NBA team.

"[Andrea Bargnani’s] two injury-filled, unproductive seasons with the Knicks will end next month but there is already a sense that team president Phil Jackson, encouraged by Bargnani’s play over the past 20 games, will strongly consider re-signing the free agent forward… for the right price, of course."

And folks that is the canary in the coal mine.

Remember for the Knicks to have any hope the likeliest scenario is for them to pick the best pro in the NBA draft, AND grab a top notch free agent this summer, AND make sure that the draft pick, the free agent and Carmelo Anthony complement each other on the court, AND pick up the right complementary players to fill out the rest of the roster. This is the corner they’ve painted themselves into by re-signing Anthony to a huge contract, giving him a no-trade clause, and giving away future first round picks.

And for the above scenario to come true, the Knicks need someone at the helm that understands how to evaluate NBA talent. If Phil Jackson resigns Andrea Bargnani to do anything more than shoot tshirts out of a cannon, he proves that he is not qualified to run this team.

Phil was brought in to build a team. Yes the initial try was a total failure. What has compounded those failures in the past was ownership would say "we were supposed to compete, now go improve the team" and that resulted in years of bad trade and dumping picks for savior players who had their best years behind them.

Instead Phil gutted the team and put is in position to reload with a top pick, enough cap space to potentially offer two max guys deals with Melo and top 3 pick, or use it to add parts and pieces that fit and arent "clumsy."

Regardless of the plan, regardless how you rank the guys here who are playing well, Phil took a team that was going nowhere and put the KNicks in position to have a franchise altering offseason.

Now whether he executes on that remains to be seen, but he has put us in position and that is NOT an F.

He's also done something the Knicks havent done in years, and that is develop players. Galloway is 100% an NBA player and this is an example of scouting, using the D league and grooming a guy who is a rotaion player for years to come.

Saying Knicks "will never be good" when they are a couple months away from a top pick in a draft with some potential stars as well as a massive amount of cap space to build with is a stupid stupid statement. Hate on Phil... fine. Hate on Dolan... fine. Waive the Steve Kerr flag... yawn, but fine. But your just bitching and moaning at this point.

What Phil was brought in here to do wasnt happening in year 1. He did not have a top 5 pick and $30mm in cap space last season. There is no guarentee he executes this offseason, but know he's scouted the KY games and practices for months. He's said they will use this pick to groom a star, not in a quick fix. The values are there so the hope follows. This is not just more of the same. No Knick GM has done this.

crzymdups wrote:The idea that Steve Kerr was ever coming here is insane. Dude's family lives on the West Coast and he tried to trade Amar'e Stoudemire in 2009 at the draft... for Steph Curry. He was never going to turn down the Warriors offer.

This is an easy article to write, because if he's right he can say "I told you so" and if he's wrong he left the door slightly open that Phil can "draft and play FA perfectly"... who cares. He's not saying anything we don't all know.

Thank you fish and crzy for saving me the time to reply.....I dont want knick fans to think Im after them or take my comments personal. Im just a fan that see the negatives but choose not to dwell in it.

Was Kerr lowed balled or a start of a negotiation? how was it botched? The process that put Kerr up in the first place than a starphuch retread is a good sign, not a red flag.
I don't think the Tyson trade was at all fatal. Nothing there has killed us.
I think If Phil thought a healthy Bargnani and Melo enhanced by at least one of the Idiot twins (Shump and JR) able to Triangle that we'd be a playoff team with good kharma and adding a top free agent with a middle 1st round pick would be a talent boost, on top of expanding cap space was a good plan.

I think Bargnani if healthy could have gotten us a very late 1st round pick if traded early in the season to a contender.
I think Calderon is not a good player on a tanking shyt roster.

The article said basically since nothing ever good ever happens here, nothing will. Its pretty lame actually. As if some spiritual miss alignment exists with us.

I don't think many are gushing around here but just haveing some hope of a turnaround. Nobody who follows this team, even the most homeristic of the lovers can possibly think we contend next year! But we should be thinking .500 is possible! Not because "Charlie the unicorn" will save us, but because we have a potential no. 1 pick coming and money to spend.

No way do I take the past into consideration as long as phil is around and Dolan is out of the picture. If PHil bails on us lets see what kind of progress will have been made to that point.

Blog's have to create readers just like media. SAS comes to town and "knicks should emulate Spurs success"!!! Thats shocking. Grizz come to town, write about Gasol of why he won't come here. OKC in town, write about Durant!!!! Starphuchers will lap that pearl necklace hope but most experienced fans understand the hype.

Heres the deal, its easy to write about the current state. Its not easy to paint a picture of change. Phil has changed the paradigm of the organization but its not in front of us to see. If your a fatalist like Splat then you extropolate every current trend into the future. Why not? Its not like you have solid evidence to prove your wrong! On the other extreme you have the Homer Nix who believes in unicorns and all will be well in the future!

The reality is if you have a change in the deicison making process your bound to have a different result! The fact we allowed a failed season to get to this far depth without a panic move to shore up the short term MIGHT be telling! We Freaking cleaned house!!! We tanked, we blew it the phuch up!!!!!!

Because of this, one has to extend the time line out. IN fact Phil might be gone by the time we really hit our stride. Does that make it a failure? My some measure he was not able to deliver what he said, but on the other hand he is not in denial either. Sometimes we are disappointed and sometimes plans don't work.

To say "since in one year he has not turned it around he never will" is short sighted.

Is that a realist or a fatalist?

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Splat wrote:Yeah Nix. Mike Kurylo is an idiot and you are a genius.

His having a blog does't make him an expert or infallible. His arguments in his article are poorly conceived. It has nothing to do with him being an idiot or me somehow a genius. I merely pointed out the meaning behind his words when you carry them out to their full conclusion and what he was insinuating without directly stating all of his negative views. When you make statements like "for the Knicks to have any hope" it assumes that the team's options for success are extremely narrow. That makes little sense when you're talking about a team that has a chance at a top draft talent and also has cap space to be a buyer in the Free Agent Market. It's not often that this team has both this options available to it in order to rebuild a team. He's basically talking like a member of your Hate Club.

You never switch gears. Everyone who doesn't have the sense to see your point of view is an idiot. You say it repeatedly. All the time. I have extreme opinions of my own, but I don't call everyone an idiot because they disagree. You can't help yourself. Everything you post calls people stupid. Every single day. Like clockwork.

Calling out nix for being one dimensional in his thinking is low hanging fruit.. I mean he's pretty transparent about why he's here and what his thoughts on the team are, but you seem quite steadfast in your views on the other end of the spectrum as well.

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Splat wrote:Yeah Nix. Mike Kurylo is an idiot and you are a genius.

His having a blog does't make him an expert or infallible. His arguments in his article are poorly conceived. It has nothing to do with him being an idiot or me somehow a genius. I merely pointed out the meaning behind his words when you carry them out to their full conclusion and what he was insinuating without directly stating all of his negative views. When you make statements like "for the Knicks to have any hope" it assumes that the team's options for success are extremely narrow. That makes little sense when you're talking about a team that has a chance at a top draft talent and also has cap space to be a buyer in the Free Agent Market. It's not often that this team has both this options available to it in order to rebuild a team. He's basically talking like a member of your Hate Club.

You never switch gears. Everyone who doesn't have the sense to see your point of view is an idiot. You say it repeatedly. All the time. I have extreme opinions of my own, but I don't call everyone an idiot because they disagree. You can't help yourself. Everything you post calls people stupid. Every single day. Like clockwork.

have you ever switched gears? Have you ever entertained the notion that Phil could draft a franchise player? Have you entertained the thought that he may bring good players in via FA? Have you acknowledged that for the first time I think ever the Knicks are using the DLeague and looking everywhere to bring in guys and groom them for roles?

Calling out nix for being one dimensional in his thinking is low hanging fruit.. I mean he's pretty transparent about why he's here and what his thoughts on the team are, but you seem quite steadfast in your views on the other end of the spectrum as well.

you need guys at each end of the spectrum for balance, no?

the same argument that you are using in regards to splat's negativity can be used to question Nixluva's extreme positivity.

We need more centrists like me

As for my opinions, I'm anchored by my firm belief that, ultimately, I am always correct, and it's for this reason that I am tolerant of unreason by certain posters.

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Splat wrote:Yeah Nix. Mike Kurylo is an idiot and you are a genius.

His having a blog does't make him an expert or infallible. His arguments in his article are poorly conceived. It has nothing to do with him being an idiot or me somehow a genius. I merely pointed out the meaning behind his words when you carry them out to their full conclusion and what he was insinuating without directly stating all of his negative views. When you make statements like "for the Knicks to have any hope" it assumes that the team's options for success are extremely narrow. That makes little sense when you're talking about a team that has a chance at a top draft talent and also has cap space to be a buyer in the Free Agent Market. It's not often that this team has both this options available to it in order to rebuild a team. He's basically talking like a member of your Hate Club.

You never switch gears. Everyone who doesn't have the sense to see your point of view is an idiot. You say it repeatedly. All the time. I have extreme opinions of my own, but I don't call everyone an idiot because they disagree. You can't help yourself. Everything you post calls people stupid. Every single day. Like clockwork.

have you ever switched gears? Have you ever entertained the notion that Phil could draft a franchise player? Have you entertained the thought that he may bring good players in via FA? Have you acknowledged that for the first time I think ever the Knicks are using the DLeague and looking everywhere to bring in guys and groom them for roles?

Calling out nix for being one dimensional in his thinking is low hanging fruit.. I mean he's pretty transparent about why he's here and what his thoughts on the team are, but you seem quite steadfast in your views on the other end of the spectrum as well.

you need guys at each end of the spectrum for balance, no?

the same argument that you are using in regards to splat's negativity can be used to question Nixluva's extreme positivity.

We need more centrists like me

Personally, I don't mind a wide array of opinions, as long as folks can back up/support what they are putting on the table, and not just promote nonsense simply to provoke or be reactive.

As for my opinions, I'm anchored by my firm belief that, ultimately, I am always correct, and it's for this reason that I am tolerant of unreason by certain posters.

If you are actually always correct then we must agree on everything :-)

As for opinions I find them best to avoid. I only present facts, which are based on a variety of my opinions.