smackeddog wrote:

blkexec wrote:
3. Fans that want the #1 pick, but refuse to look like crap along the way.

Exactly- this is tanking, this is what tanking looks like, and most people seem to be unable to handle it.

This is Spa-a-a-a-rta! Lol

smackeddog wrote:

blkexec wrote:
3. Fans that want the #1 pick, but refuse to look like crap along the way.

Exactly- this is tanking, this is what tanking looks like, and most people seem to be unable to handle it.

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

blkexec wrote:
3. Fans that want the #1 pick, but refuse to look like crap along the way.

Exactly- this is tanking, this is what tanking looks like, and most people seem to be unable to handle it.

I'm OK with the tanking at this point(though I'd use the word losing rather than tanking). I don't like the fact that half our cap space this off-season is taken up by the remainders of this sub .200 team.

Yep. If the plan all along has been to tank we would have traded Melo and gotten a better return for Tyson. Instead, Phil accidentally built the worst team in franchise history and now almost has to overpay this Summer to convince anyone to sign here.

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

StraightShot wrote:Jim is interested in one thing: Fixing the Knicks. And he is committed to extending all necessary resources to the task. He has communicated with Phil about the mandate and they are both on the same page. He is ready to make any changes the Phil requests if it is at all possible with an eye toward building the long term contender that Knicks fans deserve. So yes, MSG headquarters has certainly made it clear to the entire organization that fixing the Knicks is job #1.

WTF are you? You don't know jack about the inner workings of MSG. You big fraud.

straightshot I apologize for the lack of class... but you must understand that this franchise has not only been poorly run but you have fans that actually believe Dolan did this personally to them. This is a tough tim to be waiving the ra-ra Jim is going to fix things flag.

The *right* way, and only right way is to use to all avenues and assets and use them at the same time. Thats the Dleague, the draft, free agency and MSG money. The last one means nothing now because there is nothing to overspend on. So that leaves the other three. I would say so far Phil has activly used the DLeague to groom some player and look at others. The draft and FA.. well the first REAL foray into that comes this offseason.

You're apologizing to a fictional character created to provoke the board Mike. That's the real troll and I flamed them. Do you actually believe that is a person and not a persona?

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Phil needs to hire a real coach

The 19 3-pointers the Warriors registered were the most the Knicks had ever allowed in a game — the final indignity to Derek Fisher’s poor 3-point defense.

This is not about bad defenders, this about a bad game plan night in and night out.

knicks1248--what coach could do materially better than Fischer with this group? You think if Phil himself was coaching wed already be at 50 wins????

I'm not saying that, It's one thing to have bad defenders, it's entirely another story when you have a bad defensive philosophy.

So your telling your bad defenders to playoff of 3 point shooters and protect the paint as if they are quick enough or strong enough to recover in time, or fight through a screen. You can have a all 1st team defense out there, wouldn't matter all that much, we would still be getting torch from the land of 3, because of the system..

It's the same with any coaches defensive philosophy, woodson and MDA believe that switching was the best way to defend, so despite having a few solid defenders like shump, and tyson, we still saw tyson get lit up by opposing guards, and shump getting caught defending a big in the post.

StraightShot wrote:Jim is interested in one thing: Fixing the Knicks. And he is committed to extending all necessary resources to the task. He has communicated with Phil about the mandate and they are both on the same page. He is ready to make any changes the Phil requests if it is at all possible with an eye toward building the long term contender that Knicks fans deserve. So yes, MSG headquarters has certainly made it clear to the entire organization that fixing the Knicks is job #1.

Man, please tell you body (or employer) Dolan to stop being stupid.
Ask him to look on how good Rangers did after he stepped away and stop getting involved.
It took 5 years to build a good team from starpunching joke it was but result is in front of you.
Just ask him to enjoy the "Straight Shot" tunes...

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

StraightShot wrote:Jim is interested in one thing: Fixing the Knicks. And he is committed to extending all necessary resources to the task. He has communicated with Phil about the mandate and they are both on the same page. He is ready to make any changes the Phil requests if it is at all possible with an eye toward building the long term contender that Knicks fans deserve. So yes, MSG headquarters has certainly made it clear to the entire organization that fixing the Knicks is job #1.

WTF are you? You don't know jack about the inner workings of MSG. You big fraud.

straightshot I apologize for the lack of class... but you must understand that this franchise has not only been poorly run but you have fans that actually believe Dolan did this personally to them. This is a tough tim to be waiving the ra-ra Jim is going to fix things flag.

The *right* way, and only right way is to use to all avenues and assets and use them at the same time. Thats the Dleague, the draft, free agency and MSG money. The last one means nothing now because there is nothing to overspend on. So that leaves the other three. I would say so far Phil has activly used the DLeague to groom some player and look at others. The draft and FA.. well the first REAL foray into that comes this offseason.

You're apologizing to a fictional character created to provoke the board Mike. That's the real troll and I flamed them. Do you actually believe that is a person and not a persona?

I actually know it is. But carry on being splat.

You know whats amazing is how these conversations would be totally different in person. Time for a UK gathering.

You know whats amazing? That you're the kind of guy who threatens posters with taunts that if we met in person you would kick our behinds.

Splat wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

StraightShot wrote:Jim is interested in one thing: Fixing the Knicks. And he is committed to extending all necessary resources to the task. He has communicated with Phil about the mandate and they are both on the same page. He is ready to make any changes the Phil requests if it is at all possible with an eye toward building the long term contender that Knicks fans deserve. So yes, MSG headquarters has certainly made it clear to the entire organization that fixing the Knicks is job #1.

WTF are you? You don't know jack about the inner workings of MSG. You big fraud.

straightshot I apologize for the lack of class... but you must understand that this franchise has not only been poorly run but you have fans that actually believe Dolan did this personally to them. This is a tough tim to be waiving the ra-ra Jim is going to fix things flag.

The *right* way, and only right way is to use to all avenues and assets and use them at the same time. Thats the Dleague, the draft, free agency and MSG money. The last one means nothing now because there is nothing to overspend on. So that leaves the other three. I would say so far Phil has activly used the DLeague to groom some player and look at others. The draft and FA.. well the first REAL foray into that comes this offseason.

You're apologizing to a fictional character created to provoke the board Mike. That's the real troll and I flamed them. Do you actually believe that is a person and not a persona?

I actually know it is. But carry on being splat.

You know whats amazing is how these conversations would be totally different in person. Time for a UK gathering.

You know whats amazing? That you're the kind of guy who threatens posters with taunts that if we met in person you would kick our behinds.

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

StraightShot wrote:Jim is interested in one thing: Fixing the Knicks. And he is committed to extending all necessary resources to the task. He has communicated with Phil about the mandate and they are both on the same page. He is ready to make any changes the Phil requests if it is at all possible with an eye toward building the long term contender that Knicks fans deserve. So yes, MSG headquarters has certainly made it clear to the entire organization that fixing the Knicks is job #1.

WTF are you? You don't know jack about the inner workings of MSG. You big fraud.

straightshot I apologize for the lack of class... but you must understand that this franchise has not only been poorly run but you have fans that actually believe Dolan did this personally to them. This is a tough tim to be waiving the ra-ra Jim is going to fix things flag.

The *right* way, and only right way is to use to all avenues and assets and use them at the same time. Thats the Dleague, the draft, free agency and MSG money. The last one means nothing now because there is nothing to overspend on. So that leaves the other three. I would say so far Phil has activly used the DLeague to groom some player and look at others. The draft and FA.. well the first REAL foray into that comes this offseason.

You're apologizing to a fictional character created to provoke the board Mike. That's the real troll and I flamed them. Do you actually believe that is a person and not a persona?

I actually know it is. But carry on being splat.

You know whats amazing is how these conversations would be totally different in person. Time for a UK gathering.

You know whats amazing? That you're the kind of guy who threatens posters with taunts that if we met in person you would kick our behinds.

Coming from the guy who called him a coward no? So your the internet tough guy who splats everyone then cries bully when someone suggests conversations would be different in person? Got it. Carry on.

Let's not you and I start up again.

blkexec and the fake dolan troller are currently the only two posters actively campaigning to have me banned.

They engaged in a hell of a lot of attack messages and wouldn't respond to any rebuttal. They claimed to want one thing and behaved in another, so I found them to be the most hypocritical poster of all. And I called them a coward because their only response to every challenge to their logic was more threats and sputtering outrage and threats to spank my behind. They represented themselves poorly. Don't step into the middle of it. They are the one keeping up with the provocations.

Splat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Splat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Phil needs to hire a real coach

The 19 3-pointers the Warriors registered were the most the Knicks had ever allowed in a game — the final indignity to Derek Fisher’s poor 3-point defense.

This is not about bad defenders, this about a bad game plan night in and night out.

knicks1248--what coach could do materially better than Fischer with this group? You think if Phil himself was coaching wed already be at 50 wins????

I'm not saying that, It's one thing to have bad defenders, it's entirely another story when you have a bad defensive philosophy.

So your telling your bad defenders to playoff of 3 point shooters and protect the paint as if they are quick enough or strong enough to recover in time, or fight through a screen. You can have a all ist team defense out there, wouldn't matter all that much, we would still be getting torch from the land of 3, because of the system..

It's the same with any coaches defensive philosophy, woodson and MDA believe that switching was the best way to defend, so despite having a few solid defenders like shump, and tyson, we still saw tyson get lit up by opposing guards.

With the three game these days, for all the desire to acquire defensive bigs for the front line, it seems mandatory to have quick guards who can pressure the ball and keep down the three attempts while also preventing excessive penetration. The Knicks have been abused at the guard position and without Tyson there hasn't even been backup defense down low once opposing guards get into the paint.

The Knicks really need an elite wings and guards who play lock down defense as much as defensive big. But I guess the Knicks need everything so nevah mind!

Dude there are very few elite wing defenders in the NBA, everybody is spreading the offense and moving the ball, unless you have the Road Runner on your squad, you better have an elite master plan, It's not about individual talent. Obviously that will help some, but overall, coaches and scouts will eat right through that silly ass defensive plan fisher has.

I obviously know nothing

fishmike wrote:

Splat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Splat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Phil needs to hire a real coach

The 19 3-pointers the Warriors registered were the most the Knicks had ever allowed in a game — the final indignity to Derek Fisher’s poor 3-point defense.

This is not about bad defenders, this about a bad game plan night in and night out.

knicks1248--what coach could do materially better than Fischer with this group? You think if Phil himself was coaching wed already be at 50 wins????

I'm not saying that, It's one thing to have bad defenders, it's entirely another story when you have a bad defensive philosophy.

So your telling your bad defenders to playoff of 3 point shooters and protect the paint as if they are quick enough or strong enough to recover in time, or fight through a screen. You can have a all ist team defense out there, wouldn't matter all that much, we would still be getting torch from the land of 3, because of the system..

It's the same with any coaches defensive philosophy, woodson and MDA believe that switching was the best way to defend, so despite having a few solid defenders like shump, and tyson, we still saw tyson get lit up by opposing guards.

With the three game these days, for all the desire to acquire defensive bigs for the front line, it seems mandatory to have quick guards who can pressure the ball and keep down the three attempts while also preventing excessive penetration. The Knicks have been abused at the guard position and without Tyson there hasn't even been backup defense down low once opposing guards get into the paint.

The Knicks really need an elite wings and guards who play lock down defense as much as defensive big. But I guess the Knicks need everything so nevah mind!

Dude there are very few elite wing defenders in the NBA, everybody is spreading the offense and moving the ball, unless you have the Road Runner on your squad, you better have an elite master plan, It's not about individual talent. Obviously that will help some, but overall, coaches and scouts will eat right through that silly ass defensive plan fisher has.

I obviously know nothing

actually one of your more accurate statements. Shockingly made without calling someone and azzhole, a coward, a fake person or posting a stupid photo documenting their total lack of logic. Maybe you really are turning over a new leaf. Wow. Good to see an ounce of humility there. Carry on. There is hope for the board yet.

You can put down the pitchfork. You know I exchange on basketball topics all the time without name calling. I'm just as pugnacious as you are and when people come after me I throw back. I went out of my way to debate Nix on hoops without any name calling so let's have the sense to separate between what is actually a tussle and recognize who initiates what. I do not seek out new people to attack and most people here understand that. Have a nice day