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mreinman
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3/8/2015  3:09 PM
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Like Nixluva said, he's exploring in depth every possible scenario so that he is PREPARED to make the best move when the time comes. That is what a good GM should be doing at this point. It's all according to plan.

this is not at all going according to plan.

What's the plan then?

I don't have a clue.

Them why even say anything? Stop trolling

trolling?

I don't predict moves since I don't have a clue what Phil will do. Nobody does!

I do however comment on past transactions since I know what they are/were.

Happy with the plan yet?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/8/2015  3:38 PM
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Like Nixluva said, he's exploring in depth every possible scenario so that he is PREPARED to make the best move when the time comes. That is what a good GM should be doing at this point. It's all according to plan.

this is not at all going according to plan.

What's the plan then?

I don't have a clue.

Them why even say anything? Stop trolling

trolling?

I don't predict moves since I don't have a clue what Phil will do. Nobody does!

I do however comment on past transactions since I know what they are/were.

Happy with the plan yet?

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
EnySpree
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3/8/2015  3:42 PM
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Like Nixluva said, he's exploring in depth every possible scenario so that he is PREPARED to make the best move when the time comes. That is what a good GM should be doing at this point. It's all according to plan.

this is not at all going according to plan.

What's the plan then?

I don't have a clue.

Them why even say anything? Stop trolling

trolling?

I don't predict moves since I don't have a clue what Phil will do. Nobody does!

I do however comment on past transactions since I know what they are/were.

Happy with the plan yet?

Yes actually. The plan always was the cap space for 2015. Now we getting a top 4 pick. I'm super pumped for that so yes

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3/8/2015  4:03 PM
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Like Nixluva said, he's exploring in depth every possible scenario so that he is PREPARED to make the best move when the time comes. That is what a good GM should be doing at this point. It's all according to plan.

this is not at all going according to plan.

What's the plan then?

I don't have a clue.

Them why even say anything? Stop trolling

trolling?

I don't predict moves since I don't have a clue what Phil will do. Nobody does!

I do however comment on past transactions since I know what they are/were.

Happy with the plan yet?

Yes actually. The plan always was the cap space for 2015. Now we getting a top 4 pick. I'm super pumped for that so yes


Then you shouldnt be thanking Phil. The cap space was already set BEFORE Phil came on board, and somehow Phil made it less by trading for Calderon. The draft pick which is cool has zero guarantees of being good, thus why the article the Knicks may TRADE it. Phil also gets no credit for that since that wasnt his goal, his bad moves and misjudgement on talent did that.
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3/8/2015  4:25 PM
We trade this pick and I'm done
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3/8/2015  4:55 PM
knickscity wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Like Nixluva said, he's exploring in depth every possible scenario so that he is PREPARED to make the best move when the time comes. That is what a good GM should be doing at this point. It's all according to plan.

this is not at all going according to plan.

What's the plan then?

I don't have a clue.

Them why even say anything? Stop trolling

trolling?

I don't predict moves since I don't have a clue what Phil will do. Nobody does!

I do however comment on past transactions since I know what they are/were.

Happy with the plan yet?

Yes actually. The plan always was the cap space for 2015. Now we getting a top 4 pick. I'm super pumped for that so yes


Then you shouldnt be thanking Phil. The cap space was already set BEFORE Phil came on board, and somehow Phil made it less by trading for Calderon. The draft pick which is cool has zero guarantees of being good, thus why the article the Knicks may TRADE it. Phil also gets no credit for that since that wasnt his goal, his bad moves and misjudgement on talent did that.

Who's thanking Phil?

Don't make stuff up to make things seem like you know what you are talking about more than I am.

The plan was 2015 before Phil got here. I'm willing to wait and see what he can do. He did clear the team of the bad seeds and there had been a culture change.

Anyway don't make stuff up to start a baseless argument.

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3/8/2015  4:57 PM
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VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

So our pick is only worth the best big man in the league, nothing less? Not even Demarcus cousins, cuz i mentioned him and alot of you ****ted on me.

I doubt Phil will trade it just to move Calderón to pick up Kevin martin. That is stupid. Obviously it would have to be a big deal.

Lance Stevenson and Al Jefferson for our pick and Calderón would be a boss level trade I would get behind...I mentioned that in another thread

Jesus Christ. If we traded our pick for Lance Stevenson and Al Jefferson I would sit in front of MSG, dump gasoline over my head, and light myself on fire.

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3/8/2015  4:58 PM
VCoug wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

So our pick is only worth the best big man in the league, nothing less? Not even Demarcus cousins, cuz i mentioned him and alot of you ****ted on me.

I doubt Phil will trade it just to move Calderón to pick up Kevin martin. That is stupid. Obviously it would have to be a big deal.

Lance Stevenson and Al Jefferson for our pick and Calderón would be a boss level trade I would get behind...I mentioned that in another thread

Jesus Christ. If we traded our pick for Lance Stevenson and Al Jefferson I would sit in front of MSG, dump gasoline over my head, and light myself on fire.

Nah you wouldn't. lol

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3/8/2015  5:03 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

You can't rule out this thinking, If i can do a sign and trade for Gasol or aldidge (more establish players)I would do it, I would rather have veterans around a young in experience coach like fisher. If we get the # 1 pick, then he's a keeper, but anything less than that, I'm all ears.

This draft does not have franchise talent, these guys are Camby like players that can help given a solid role, but please don't think any of this big's are Ewing or Duncan.

That's insane. We should actively hurt the team because our coach is too incompetent to coach younger players? Why not just fire Fisher and hire someone who knows what the **** he's doing?

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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3/8/2015  5:05 PM
VCoug wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

So our pick is only worth the best big man in the league, nothing less? Not even Demarcus cousins, cuz i mentioned him and alot of you ****ted on me.

I doubt Phil will trade it just to move Calderón to pick up Kevin martin. That is stupid. Obviously it would have to be a big deal.

Lance Stevenson and Al Jefferson for our pick and Calderón would be a boss level trade I would get behind...I mentioned that in another thread

Jesus Christ. If we traded our pick for Lance Stevenson and Al Jefferson I would sit in front of MSG, dump gasoline over my head, and light myself on fire.

Lol

Al Jefferson is 20/10

Stevenson plays defense and is a great rebounder and facilitator for his position.

Line up al Jefferson, melo, shved, Stevenson and Bargs and I would be fine.

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3/8/2015  5:06 PM
VCoug wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

You can't rule out this thinking, If i can do a sign and trade for Gasol or aldidge (more establish players)I would do it, I would rather have veterans around a young in experience coach like fisher. If we get the # 1 pick, then he's a keeper, but anything less than that, I'm all ears.

This draft does not have franchise talent, these guys are Camby like players that can help given a solid role, but please don't think any of this big's are Ewing or Duncan.

That's insane. We should actively hurt the team because our coach is too incompetent to coach younger players? Why not just fire Fisher and hire someone who knows what the **** he's doing?

That's too simple. Phil can't lose face. Without a face, Phil can't lead. He'd bump into walls on the way to the water cooler.

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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3/8/2015  5:08 PM
EnySpree wrote:
knickscity wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Moonangie wrote:Like Nixluva said, he's exploring in depth every possible scenario so that he is PREPARED to make the best move when the time comes. That is what a good GM should be doing at this point. It's all according to plan.

this is not at all going according to plan.

What's the plan then?

I don't have a clue.

Them why even say anything? Stop trolling

trolling?

I don't predict moves since I don't have a clue what Phil will do. Nobody does!

I do however comment on past transactions since I know what they are/were.

Happy with the plan yet?

Yes actually. The plan always was the cap space for 2015. Now we getting a top 4 pick. I'm super pumped for that so yes


Then you shouldnt be thanking Phil. The cap space was already set BEFORE Phil came on board, and somehow Phil made it less by trading for Calderon. The draft pick which is cool has zero guarantees of being good, thus why the article the Knicks may TRADE it. Phil also gets no credit for that since that wasnt his goal, his bad moves and misjudgement on talent did that.

Who's thanking Phil?

Don't make stuff up to make things seem like you know what you are talking about more than I am.

The plan was 2015 before Phil got here. I'm willing to wait and see what he can do. He did clear the team of the bad seeds and there had been a culture change.

Anyway don't make stuff up to start a baseless argument.

If all you got out of my post is thanking Phil, then I have no words other than I'm sorry you missed the point.

The point is Phil has done NOTHING the team wasnt already in position to do, but somehow made that worse.

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3/8/2015  5:09 PM
This whole rumor smells like bull****. Phil seems to understand the importance of this draft especially we are in terrific position for draft a Impact player on a rookie contract. The main reason we have sucked for 15 years is because we trade so many picks for mostly crap
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3/8/2015  5:12 PM
Splat wrote:
VCoug wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

You can't rule out this thinking, If i can do a sign and trade for Gasol or aldidge (more establish players)I would do it, I would rather have veterans around a young in experience coach like fisher. If we get the # 1 pick, then he's a keeper, but anything less than that, I'm all ears.

This draft does not have franchise talent, these guys are Camby like players that can help given a solid role, but please don't think any of this big's are Ewing or Duncan.

That's insane. We should actively hurt the team because our coach is too incompetent to coach younger players? Why not just fire Fisher and hire someone who knows what the **** he's doing?

That's too simple. Phil can't lose face. Without a face, Phil can't lead. He'd bump into walls on the way to the water cooler.

Lol. And you're right, I wouldn't set myself on fire. But I might cry a little bit.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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3/8/2015  5:14 PM
VCoug wrote:
Splat wrote:
VCoug wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

You can't rule out this thinking, If i can do a sign and trade for Gasol or aldidge (more establish players)I would do it, I would rather have veterans around a young in experience coach like fisher. If we get the # 1 pick, then he's a keeper, but anything less than that, I'm all ears.

This draft does not have franchise talent, these guys are Camby like players that can help given a solid role, but please don't think any of this big's are Ewing or Duncan.

That's insane. We should actively hurt the team because our coach is too incompetent to coach younger players? Why not just fire Fisher and hire someone who knows what the **** he's doing?

That's too simple. Phil can't lose face. Without a face, Phil can't lead. He'd bump into walls on the way to the water cooler.

Lol. And you're right, I wouldn't set myself on fire. But I might cry a little bit.


Even though I have zero faith in Phil he wont be trading the #1 pick for Al jefferson. Only fans think of stupidity like that.
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3/8/2015  5:20 PM
i think it's important to see what the knicks are actually doing rather than what is being said.... the knicks have had numerous scouts at kentucky for basically the whole season... we saw a bunch of the knicks brass scouting russell... and phil has seen all the top 3 guys in the regular season... for the most part i think they are seeing what everyone else is seeing.. it's a pretty clear cut top 3 and they are preparing to draft any of those guys and just determining how to order them...

i wouldn't be too concerned with the possibility of trading the pick.. if we fall out of top 3 then it becomes more of a possibility of course... but i hope we make a pick since there are still solid guys..

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3/8/2015  5:20 PM
VCoug wrote:
Splat wrote:
VCoug wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

You can't rule out this thinking, If i can do a sign and trade for Gasol or aldidge (more establish players)I would do it, I would rather have veterans around a young in experience coach like fisher. If we get the # 1 pick, then he's a keeper, but anything less than that, I'm all ears.

This draft does not have franchise talent, these guys are Camby like players that can help given a solid role, but please don't think any of this big's are Ewing or Duncan.

That's insane. We should actively hurt the team because our coach is too incompetent to coach younger players? Why not just fire Fisher and hire someone who knows what the **** he's doing?

That's too simple. Phil can't lose face. Without a face, Phil can't lead. He'd bump into walls on the way to the water cooler.

Lol. And you're right, I wouldn't set myself on fire. But I might cry a little bit.

Crying would be perfectly understandable. If Phil trades the pick, the Canary Islands would issue a tsunami alert to prepare for the wave of tears pouring out of New York harbor. Nix would dance a jig and explain how Phil is executing to perfection. And EnvyStar would tell us all to move to mother Russia if we don't like it here.

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3/8/2015  5:21 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
VCoug wrote:This is my nightmare scenario. If we trade our pick for anything less than Anthony Davis I don't think I could handle it.

Nor could I. I would be devastated. It may be the last straw for me as a Knicks fan. That might be the event that finally drives me away after 20+ years as a diehard knicks fan. Insult me or call me a fair weather untrue fan, whatever. I don't care. I would be livid/nauseous/tachycardic/spastic or some combination of the above.

I think I'd be right there with you. I can't put together a realistic trade that wouldn't make me livid.

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3/8/2015  5:28 PM
Unless we are getting steph curry lebron or anthony davis then trading a pick that is projected to be 1-3 is just dumb. Im so sick and tired of throwing away picks and living to regret it. Phil seems more in tune with drafting russell or Towns Which seems very likely
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3/8/2015  5:39 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:This whole rumor smells like bull****. Phil seems to understand the importance of this draft especially we are in terrific position for draft a Impact player on a rookie contract. The main reason we have sucked for 15 years is because we trade so many picks for mostly crap
I agree. I don't recall Windhorst breaking stories in the past. Also, any front office is going to explore opportunities around the draft. That is part of their job. That doesn't mean it is happening. What if the Knicks are looking to swap with Philly and get #32 in the second round if the lottery comes out #1 ny, #2 Philly. It also is a bit annoying that mistakes of the past are just tossed onto the new administration and it is assumed that they are going to do something stupid.
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