BRIGGS wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:I think that's the point. There is no supply on PGs right now. So for me, before you draft big, maybe you make sure you have a PG under contract. Just cause you want him doesn't mean he signs.

Post player first. That's a no brained. If Phil Jackson wants to win games hell sign Williams. There really is no one else the nice thing is that the cost will still be reasonable

Williams is 32- he's a backup at this point. Won't add many wins.

BRIGGS wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:I think that's the point. There is no supply on PGs right now. So for me, before you draft big, maybe you make sure you have a PG under contract. Just cause you want him doesn't mean he signs.

Post player first. That's a no brained. If Phil Jackson wants to win games hell sign Williams. There really is no one else the nice thing is that the cost will still be reasonable

Yeah overall he would be a nice addition. Would need a lockdown defender at the 2 though.

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:I think that's the point. There is no supply on PGs right now. So for me, before you draft big, maybe you make sure you have a PG under contract. Just cause you want him doesn't mean he signs.

Post player first. That's a no brained. If Phil Jackson wants to win games hell sign Williams. There really is no one else the nice thing is that the cost will still be reasonable

Williams is 32- he's a backup at this point. Won't add many wins.

Dude he might be the nba MVP last month

One thing you have to consider with Williams, with the exception of this year and last year, he has only played about 50 games per year due to injury. so are you willing to take a chance on him being healthy for a full season, when he has a history of missing 25-30 games each season? Who knows, maybe last year and this year are the rule, not the exception, but we don't want too many players who have a history of missing a lot of games.

Knixkik wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't get the Calderón/mo williams comparison. Mo williams scored 50 in a game this year. That ends all comparison. Mo williams can score. Calderón cannot. At least not anymore

Last year mo Williams averaged under 10 points per game in 25 mpg, so you are getting more offense but not a tremendous amount. My point was you are bringing in Williams to do similar to what Calderon does, just with some more scoring output. Weaknesses are similar. But for the record I like him and think he would be a nice addition.

I get the weakness part. The scoring is different because Mo can actually take over games for stints with his scoring. He's having a throwback year with Charlotte right now. Calderón sites withing the offense and never really scored much more than that. He totally forgot how to take it to the basket. Mo williams still can that at a fairly high level. Mo has also shown that he doesn't need a transition period to get his game going. He's been a journey man the last few seasons and hasn't missed a beat

yellowboy90 wrote:If they were able to trade Calderon then Mo Williams would be nice but to cut Calderon and use that money on him wouldn't be that smart imo.
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Actually it's perfect waive Calderon and use his cash on Williams. My guess is we can get Williams 2 years 12.5 mm

BRIGGS wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If they were able to trade Calderon then Mo Williams would be nice but to cut Calderon and use that money on him wouldn't be that smart imo.
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Actually it's perfect waive Calderon and use his cash on Williams. My guess is we can get Williams 2 years 12.5 mm

If you waive Jose his salary counts against the Knicks cap for the next two years. That would be 13 mil at the point guard spot to have Mo Williams.

BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:If they were able to trade Calderon then Mo Williams would be nice but to cut Calderon and use that money on him wouldn't be that smart imo.
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Actually it's perfect waive Calderon and use his cash on Williams. My guess is we can get Williams 2 years 12.5 mm

If you waive Jose his salary counts against the Knicks cap for the next two years. That would be 13 mil at the point guard spot to have Mo Williams.

No it's not if u use stretch provision. I'll make this blunt jose Calderon sucks. We need a professional qbfor this team and I don't see many players who can fit that Bill at reasonable cost .No Williams can.

If you stretch Calderon what is his cap hold annually? I know the Pistons stretched Smith but I am not sure how the numbers are figured out.

BRIGGS wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:I think that's the point. There is no supply on PGs right now. So for me, before you draft big, maybe you make sure you have a PG under contract. Just cause you want him doesn't mean he signs.

Post player first. That's a no brained. If Phil Jackson wants to win games hell sign Williams. There really is no one else the nice thing is that the cost will still be reasonable

I wasn't saying no post player -- but I can fill the pivot easier through FA than the PG. If you draft Towns and Williams re-signs in Charlotte, who is your PG next year? If you draft Russell or Mudiay, you have 5 or 6 options at PF and 4 or 5 at Center...

I'm not anti-Towns...I just think that the flurry of deadline trades of all top RFA PGs makes the supply rather short. If you can lock up Miller or any other decent PG, Towns is a no-brainer. Hell you get Miller and Midleton, Towns looks amazing. I am just saying the big man pool is a lot deeper than the backcourt shallow end.