smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Butler & MONROE. Fill in the rest

That used to be my line of thinking until I found out we'll only have $26mil to spend. I'd go:

Towns
Monroe or Millsap
Green
Joseph or Beverly

Trade Tim Jr for PJ Hairston

Really I'd love to sign one of Wes Mathews, Butler or Khris Middleton, but I don't see their teams letting them walk.

If we release Calderon which my bet is we do--not counting the draft pick we should be in the neighborhood of 34-38mm in cap space--also depending on what they do with Hardaway and the potential rise n the cap.

BRIGGS wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Butler & MONROE. Fill in the rest

That used to be my line of thinking until I found out we'll only have $26mil to spend. I'd go:

Towns
Monroe or Millsap
Green
Joseph or Beverly

Trade Tim Jr for PJ Hairston

Really I'd love to sign one of Wes Mathews, Butler or Khris Middleton, but I don't see their teams letting them walk.

If we release Calderon which my bet is we do--not counting the draft pick we should be in the neighborhood of 34-38mm in cap space--also depending on what they do with Hardaway and the potential rise n the cap.

Releasing Calderon would mean his salary stays on the cap, I think. Only way you get rid of it would be stretching him, which would knock off $4mil, but keep $3mil on the books. The Pick also counts against the cap, even before they are signed. The most we can free up is $30mil total, and that's if you stretch Calderon. Quite depressing! We have zero margin for error this offseason.

Here's a breakdown of max salary amounts etc:

Estimates for 2015-16 Season
The NBA’s current estimate for the 2015-16 salary cap is roughly $67.4 million, up from the current $63.1 million.
Based on Kyrie Irving’s extension, the maximum salary for a player with zero to six years of experience starts at $15.9 million.
A player with seven to nine years in the league should start at about $19 million, while a ten-year vet (or higher) should be at approximately $22 million.
Four year deals, with 4.5 percent raises, should total roughly $67.7 million, $81.1 million and $94.0 million, respectively.
Five year deals, re-signing with 7.5 percent raises, would hit about $91.2 million, $109.3 million and $126.5 million, respectively.
Other exceptions, and the league minimum salary levels, are specified in the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
The Mid-Level Exception starts at $5.5 million, for deals up to $23.3 million over four seasons.
The Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception begins at $3.4 million, for deals up to $10.6 million over three years.
The Bi-Annual Exception is $2.1 million, up to $4.4 million on a two-year deal.
The Room Exception will be $2.8 million for one year or up to $5.8 million for two seasons.
First-round draft picks are also on a set schedule, although teams can pay up to 120 percent or as low as 80 percent of the slotted amount.
The salary for the top overall pick for next season is $4.8 million, but they’ll inevitably sign for $5.7 million his rookie year.
The 10th pick will likely sign for $2.5 million for their first season, while the 30th pick will presumably earn $1.1 million.
The rookie minimum next season will be $525k (also the empty roster charge amount when calculating a team’s cap room). The two-year veteran’s minimum is $947k. More experience in the league translates to a higher salary, with at least 10-years in the league earning $1.5 million.
If a player with three-years or more takes a one-season minimum contract, their cap number will be $947k.
The luxury-threshold will also climb, to roughly $82 million from his year’s $76.8 million.

C Monroe / Ajinca / Amundson
PF Towns / Christmas / Wear
SF Anthony / Early / Thabo
SG Green / Schved
PG Galloway / Fredette / Wolters

BRIGGS wrote:Im just trying to get a consensus of what people think we should do. You can add more or less--take 35mm to spend if need be but include 5mm of that for the top draft pick.

I'm going for younger players -- guys who would hit their prime once Melo is sent to the glue factory in 3-years.

Towns $5.0M
B-Knight $10.0
K-Middleton $7.0M
G-Monroe $13.0

Line-up....

Knight
Middleton
Melo
Monroe
Towns

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Im just trying to get a consensus of what people think we should do. You can add more or less--take 35mm to spend if need be but include 5mm of that for the top draft pick.

I'm going for younger players -- guys who would hit their prime once Melo is sent to the glue factory in 3-years.

Towns $5.0M
B-Knight $10.0
K-Middleton $7.0M
G-Monroe $13.0

Line-up....

Knight
Middleton
Melo
Monroe
Towns

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Draft KA Towns
Trade Hardaway Jr. for early 2nd round pick, draft Rakeem Christmas
Monroe at max 15-16 mil(let's get a real #2 guy, who is 24 years old, still has upside, durable, fits the triangle, and puts up numbers.)
Danny Green at 8 mil
Ajinca, Koufos, or Lavoy Allen at 4 mil (Ajinca is preference.)
Jimmer Fredette for minimum
Nate Wolters for minimum
Bring back Schved for minimum
Bring back Amundson for minimum
Bring back Wear from minimum

C Monroe / Ajinca / Amundson
PF Towns / Christmas / Wear
SF Anthony / Early / Thabo
SG Green / Schved
PG Galloway / Fredette / Wolters

Knix--how many slow white guys do you want on 1 team not named Bird?

The team is plenty athletic. Look at the starting 5. I was looking at high IQ, cheap guys who fit a role in this offense, can shoot a little, and have low risk and decent reward. The bench isn't great (all minimum salary guys except Ajinca), but can't fix everything at once. Maybe a few of these guys pan out. But to answer your question, it looks like 5

Nah I like the 2nd round of the draft this year and hopefully Thansis will do something thus SL--we need to get much more athletic as a team. There is no way on Earth that Im paying Monroe 15mm nor would I pay Wes Matthews 12-13mm or whatever he wants. I dont like free agency enough not to spread it around. We have so many holes.

Why are you so concerned with fixing all the holes are once though? It's going to take time. We need another real impact player to take pressure off of Melo. Adding good role players is only valuable if you have them in the right role, and in your examples you are asking role players to do more than be role players. Monroe is a rare 24 year old UFA big man, who plays 82 games per year, has no baggage, has room for growth, has skills that fit the system and next to Melo, and has a good chance of changing teams. He's a 16/11 50% shooting guy right now who can be a 20/12 guy with development in this system. Melo isn't winning anything with Stuckey and Ajinca as his 2nd and 3rd best players. Get him a talented #2 guy, and then go for those types of players.

BRIGGS wrote:If we get Towns Im of the opinion we have our stars in Anthony and Towns. That all other players should be part of the pie but that pie has a lot of slices missing. We want solid pro players at all 10 spots. Last 5 --2 additional vets and 3 developmental types. Also its much easeir to moves guys with smaller yearly contracts. Im scared of the bigger contract and the player really isnt a star.

Towns will be a star, but not next year and probably not the year after. He is a role player in year 1 and 2, and hopefully develops into a star who can eventually increase his production when Melo starts to really decline.

yea don't want that...

I gotta look at it again but you simply can't make a list workout knowing where we pick.

I would be happy with

Beverley $7M
Midleton $9M
Melo
Towns $4.7M
Ajinca $5M