FistOfOakley wrote:we will probably lose out to the sixers for the top(bottom) spot as they will try to suit up the mascot, kevin hart and the hot dog vendor in our two games against them....

the games against the twolves, lakers and the two against the sixers will probably decide the order in some fashion... we cannot win any of those games...

i see us falling behind the sixers but ahead of the twolves and lakers which isn't bad... falling behind either of those teams would be HORRIBLE... the #5 or 6 pick coupled with the fact that i don't trust the knicks picking the right player that far down the draft i am going to be depressed...

#   Team	 	W	L	WL% 	GB 	L10	Streak	Worst Case	        Balls	#1 %	 Mock Draft	      Salary 
 1  New York		12	46	.207 	0.0 	2-8	Won 2	36 wins, pick #15	250	25.0	 Jahlil Okafor	      $4,750,000 
 2  Philadelphia	13	47	.217 	0.0 	2-8	Lost 2	35 wins, pick #12	199	19.9	 Karl Towns	      $4,250,000 
 3  Minnesota		13	46	.220 	0.5 	4-6	Lost 3	36 wins, pick #15	156	15.6	 D'Angelo Russell     $3,820,000 
 4  LA Lakers		16	42	.276 	4.0 	3-7	Lost 1	40 wins, pick #16	119	11.9	 Emmanuel Mudiay      $3,440,000 
 5  Orlando		19	42	.311 	5.5 	4-6	Lost 3	40 wins, pick #16	88	8.8	 Stanley Johnson      $3,120,000 
 6  Denver		20	39	.339 	7.5 	1-9	Lost 6	43 wins, pick #16	63	6.3	 Mario Hezonja	      $2,830,000 
 7  Sacramento		20	37	.351 	8.5 	3-7	Lost 2	45 wins, pick #17	43	4.3	 Willie Cauley-Stein  $2,590,000 
 8  Detroit		23	36	.390 	10.5 	4-6	Lost 3	46 wins, pick #18	28	2.8	 Kristaps Porzingis   $2,370,000 
 9  Utah		23	35	.397 	11.0 	6-4	Won 2	47 wins, pick #19	17	1.7	 Justise Winslow      $2,180,000 
 10 Boston		23	34	.404 	11.5 	6-4	Lost 1	48 wins, pick #19	11	1.1	 Myles Turner	      $2,070,000 
 11 Charlotte		24	33	.421 	12.5 	4-6	Won 1	49 wins, pick #19	8	0.8	 Kelly Oubre	      $1,960,000 
 12 Indiana		25	34	.424 	12.5 	8-2	Won 2	48 wins, pick #19	7	0.7	 Frank Kaminsky	      $1,870,000 
 13 Phoenix		31	30	.508 	17.5 	3-7	Lost 2	52 wins, pick #23	6	0.6	 Kevon Looney	      $1,770,000 
 14 New Orleans Houston	32	28	.533 	19.0 	5-5	Lost 1	54 wins, pick #25	5	0.5	 Devin Booker	      $1,680,000

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3TIh9LnA1
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Nalod wrote:Dear Briggs,

Thank you for your insightful note. Me, John Gabriel, Warkentein, Gaines, Our scouts, Cleamons, Rambis and Derek all looked at each other and were like "WTF are we doing"!!! You illuminated something we had not thought of at all.

We now have a plan thanks to you!!!!

Our chairman, James Dolan would like to meet you in person and thank you! The same goes for me and my staff. Im sure you can understand that this presents a publicity problem as we get paid a bunch and it would be embarrasing for us. If you agree, can we do it without the media? Actually we have been reading your scouting reports and maybe you can come help us with the draft too?

While we can't pay you , we'll discount your cable bill and get you some sweatshirts and hats at a discount!!

We need fans like you!!!

Sincerely,

Phil Jackson

Kudos. You truly rank as one of the greatest counter-revolutionaries of all time. There will be a halftime ceremony where MSG will honor you as one of their own. You will receive a gold-plated pocket watch and a lifetime supply of carbon paper.

Or 3. Maybe they simply think he'll be hurt and are actually shocked he's played this much!

Personally, I think its a waste to think he can contribute next year. Let him go elsewhere and prove you wrong. We should have bought him out and let him find another team to sign with.

NO.	NAME	                POS	AGE	HT	WT	2014-2015 SALARY
3	Jose Calderon	        PG	33	6-3	200	$7,097,191
21	Lou Amundson	        PF	32	6-9	225	$409,167
7	Carmelo Anthony	        SF	30	6-8	240	$22,458,401
77	Andrea Bargnani	        C	29	7-0	245	$11,500,000
14	Jason Smith	        PF	29	7-0	245	$3,278,000
45	Cole Aldrich	        C	26	6-11	250	$915,243
1	Alexey Shved	        PG	26	6-6	187	$3,282,056
42	Lance Thomas	        SF	26	6-8	225	$403,784
4	Quincy Acy	        SF	24	6-7	240	$915,243
6	Travis Wear	        SF	24	6-10	225	$507,336
17	Cleanthony Early	SF	23	6-8	220	$507,336
2	Langston Galloway	PG	23	6-2	200	$235,762
5	Tim Hardaway Jr.	SG	22	6-6	210	$1,250,640
0	Shane Larkin	        PG	22	5-11	175	$1,606,080

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:Briggs your a bit bi-polar with this one. Like two weeks ago you were pining to sign Bargs cheap. Now your tilting because he's playing and playing well (2 games?) in the triangle. You have been all about keeping $$$ flexibility. If Bargs plays well why wouldnt they resign him? Who is going to offer him morethan $6mm next year on a 1 year deal? Name one team... and if you hot for a chance to sign Durant after next year than Bargs is a very reasonable 1-year stop gap. Lets say Bargs plays 55 games next year and puts up 20ppg and 6 rebs and shoots 48% in the triangle. Isnt someone like Durant, who has the best mid range game since Jordan going to look at that and think hmmm????

After thinking about it--I don't see this organization resigning him. If we stop and think Bargnani hasnt been able to stay healthy and that has been a plague with some of our vets. I agree with you fishmike--if Bargs plays the right way plays within a system plays within 14 feet--he could be useful--thats why i said lets atleast look at resigning him for a short stint. But lets look at the Knicks--theyve been absolutely burned by this Bargs trade and theyve won 12 games this year + their entire draft is gone in 2016 because of Bargs. The LAST thing Dolan will want to hear is why are we still talking about Bargnani? Bargs is a PR nightmare right now for the Knicks and this organization is obsessed with PR. If we signed Bargs back even for 1 year and 4mm and he was hurt within 8 games--its a nightmare and they already know it. I shouldve reasoned with that.

If they resign him, I would think a 9 yr old would make sure there's an injury clause in his contract. To help minimize the impact to the roster, if and when he gets injured again.

Ever wonder why todays NY players are getting injured a lot....

But look at the Grant Hills and Shaq that played in Phoenix injury free....

I lived in AZ off and on for 10 years....And the main reason I see is the level of stress is drastically different from NYC fans, media, expectations.....40 year championship drought.

I can post it later, but there's a direct link between stress and injuries. I read up on this due to my long list of recent injures. And I can say each injury was during a stressfull time in my life....Now old age is related to, but stress is something most people don't think about.

How about the stress level of being selected #1 in the NBA, AS A INTERNATIONAL PLAYER.

Nalod wrote:Its important that players can see the triangle in process and succeed. Its important that free agents see the team play hard and have good things to say about Fish.
I think when you build a culture its can't just start with "Wins" but the decision making process, putting good people in place, having a system of play, and then getting players that are enhanced by that.
We are still the worst team in the league and I don't see much changing but if we beat a team like detroit who on paper is far better than us and a guy like Monroe sees and hears good things, and how the team is playing for its coach then it makes for a more desireable place.
No blow outs, no locker room selfish players, a respected coach and a ball movement system is a what this season is about.

All things considered, while our record stinks this team is playing hard and is together. Phil tweets and they responded.

It's all about how this team finishes. People will remember how this team finishes the season. The players will all benefit from a more positive end to the season and go into the off season on a good note and ready to prepare for next year. As you point out it will also impact the view of Free Agents and that is a huge factor.

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:Briggs your a bit bi-polar with this one. Like two weeks ago you were pining to sign Bargs cheap. Now your tilting because he's playing and playing well (2 games?) in the triangle. You have been all about keeping $$$ flexibility. If Bargs plays well why wouldnt they resign him? Who is going to offer him morethan $6mm next year on a 1 year deal? Name one team... and if you hot for a chance to sign Durant after next year than Bargs is a very reasonable 1-year stop gap. Lets say Bargs plays 55 games next year and puts up 20ppg and 6 rebs and shoots 48% in the triangle. Isnt someone like Durant, who has the best mid range game since Jordan going to look at that and think hmmm????

After thinking about it--I don't see this organization resigning him. If we stop and think Bargnani hasnt been able to stay healthy and that has been a plague with some of our vets. I agree with you fishmike--if Bargs plays the right way plays within a system plays within 14 feet--he could be useful--thats why i said lets atleast look at resigning him for a short stint. But lets look at the Knicks--theyve been absolutely burned by this Bargs trade and theyve won 12 games this year + their entire draft is gone in 2016 because of Bargs. The LAST thing Dolan will want to hear is why are we still talking about Bargnani? Bargs is a PR nightmare right now for the Knicks and this organization is obsessed with PR. If we signed Bargs back even for 1 year and 4mm and he was hurt within 8 games--its a nightmare and they already know it. I shouldve reasoned with that.

If they resign him, I would think a 9 yr old would make sure there's an injury clause in his contract. To help minimize the impact to the roster, if and when he gets injured again.

Ever wonder why todays NY players are getting injured a lot....

But look at the Grant Hills and Shaq that played in Phoenix injury free....

I lived in AZ off and on for 10 years....And the main reason I see is the level of stress is drastically different from NYC fans, media, expectations.....40 year championship drought.

I can post it later, but there's a direct link between stress and injuries. I read up on this due to my long list of recent injures. And I can say each injury was during a stressfull time in my life....Now old age is related to, but stress is something most people don't think about.

How about the stress level of being selected #1 in the NBA, AS A INTERNATIONAL PLAYER.

Great points!!
Anthony Bennett stress as the no. 1 pick gave his asthma! You don't breath right, your oxygen levels drop and nitric Oxide levels drop which athletes cannot have happen!
I think Greg Oden caved under the stress. We are saw Larry Sanders basically walk away from the game. Bison Dele walked away. The Birdman turned to Heroin. Marbury had a mental breakdown.
We also don't really know what happend to jordan that caused him to quit for nearly two seasons and play baseball?
Eddy curry had no business being in the NBA and a few years in college might have vetted him out sooner.