Knixkik wrote:

Nalod wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Seems to happen more and more. What is the difference between today and the 90s? Why do guys get hurt more today?you would think training would be better today and we would see less injuries, not so many more.

The internet, social media, etc....is part of the reason why you didn't hear about these same injuries.

Players are getting bigger and faster....There's a lot more performance enhancement stuff out there.

Players are putting too much trust in new technology or wine baths and forget about the old school basics.

Players are making more money so they are under more stress than before.

After tearing my achilles, I read a study that said stress is also part of the reasons why ligaments tear. And as money increases, so does your stress levels.

Also, because so much money is on the line....Players are over training as well....Which was already stated.

Question is it really different now or then 20 years ago or do we just know everything because of media access?

Just look at players from the 80s and 90s who played 82 games most seasons. Guys aren't healthy enough to play 82 games anymore. They are complaining the seasons are too long and not enough rest, when nothing has changed. Media access has nothing to do with it. Guys play less games and get injured more now.

Do you know for a fact that people weren't injured as often then? And if not, are you one of those who believe that playing through injury is a positive thing?

blkexec wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Seems to happen more and more. What is the difference between today and the 90s? Why do guys get hurt more today?you would think training would be better today and we would see less injuries, not so many more.

The internet, social media, etc....is part of the reason why you didn't hear about these same injuries.

blkexec wrote:
Players are getting bigger and faster....There's a lot more performance enhancement stuff out there.

They're bigger and faster, so they break easier? They're also stronger and more atheletic and the court and the game haven't changed.
I don't get it.

blkexec wrote:
Players are putting too much trust in new technology or wine baths and forget about the old school basics.

blkexec wrote:
Players are making more money so they are under more stress than before.
After tearing my achilles, I read a study that said stress is also part of the reasons why ligaments tear. And as money increases, so does your stress levels.

Also, because so much money is on the line....Players are over training as well....Which was already stated.

Money is relative. Russell and Wilt were making six figures a million years ago. Guys who managed to journeyman themselves through the league for a few years were more or less set for life if they didn't eff up too drastically. Read about what practices were like during the Red Auerbach era. These guys were playing for their livelihood, too.

Pro sports since the 1960's has always been relatively high priced. It's a rarified stratosphere for a few hundred select humans.

Saying money is causing stress that it wasn't before is not a great reason. Money is relative. There were less teams and fewer spots. Please don't tell me the stress level was less.

My dad got his head handed to him in a tryout against Maurice Stokes. That was 1956. Stress is stress.

Things are just softer now, or more brittle. No other way to explain it.

Allanfan20 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Seems to happen more and more. What is the difference between today and the 90s? Why do guys get hurt more today?you would think training would be better today and we would see less injuries, not so many more.

The internet, social media, etc....is part of the reason why you didn't hear about these same injuries.

I don't get how hearing about injuries has any bearing on taking days off to recuperate.

blkexec wrote:
Players are getting bigger and faster....There's a lot more performance enhancement stuff out there.

They're bigger and faster, so they break easier? They're also stronger and more atheletic and the court and the game haven't changed.
I don't get it.

blkexec wrote:
Players are putting too much trust in new technology or wine baths and forget about the old school basics.

You've also got plyometrics, better weight training, vitamins and supplements that weren't even dreamed of back in the old school day.

blkexec wrote:
Players are making more money so they are under more stress than before.
After tearing my achilles, I read a study that said stress is also part of the reasons why ligaments tear. And as money increases, so does your stress levels.

Also, because so much money is on the line....Players are over training as well....Which was already stated.

Money is relative. Russell and Wilt were making six figures a million years ago. Guys who managed to journeyman themselves through the league for a few years were more or less set for life if they didn't eff up too drastically. Read about what practices were like during the Red Auerbach era. These guys were playing for their livelihood, too.

Pro sports since the 1960's has always been relatively high priced. It's a rarified stratosphere for a few hundred select humans.

Saying money is causing stress that it wasn't before is not a great reason. Money is relative. There were less teams and fewer spots. Please don't tell me the stress level was less.

My dad got his head handed to him in a tryout against Maurice Stokes. That was 1956. Stress is stress.

Things are just softer now, or more brittle. No other way to explain it.

Vitamins are overrated. Athletes need to focus on eating well and that alone should take care of things. Most vitamin pills have way more than the body needs and that actually creates a negative effect.

In terms of good training (which I am curious what make you think it doesn't lead to injuries), we really know nothing about what they are doing behind closed doors. Their training could be outstanding and God very well could have made them fragile. I seriously doubt that though. These guys are probably not magically made of glass. Weakened ligaments resulting from tired and sore muscles, which results in tears and sprains and breaks is far more acceptable.

I think we need some statistical number to back it up. Good question.
Did guys sit out games but not say they were resting?

I know we look back fondly over the years. I think some are under the belief Jordan never had a bad game.
Never.

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:Basically we are going on "It seems like guys are missing more games".........

I think we need some statistical number to back it up. Good question.
Did guys sit out games but not say they were resting?

I know we look back fondly over the years. I think some are under the belief Jordan never had a bad game.
Never.

When the Bulls when 72-10 one of those 10 losses was to Damon Stoudemire's expansion Raptors. It happens.

Yup and we tend to ignore the Willis Reed situation in the finals. Was he not injured? Or was that an act. I am sure Playa can find enlightening youtube videos to prove that.

We look back fondly over the past, because it was an uglier, more bumps and bruises time. You don't see Knicks posters threatening people about what bad things will happen to them if they dare drive the lane.

Society has changed.

If they tried to invent boxing in the US today, you'd be banished from the Hemisphere.
They used to play football without face masks.

It's not about injuries, we're discussing scheduled pragmatic player vacations during an NBA season.

82 games at an average of $50,000 per for each hasseled overly stressed player. Boo Effin Hoo.

Average salaries in the NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL for 2015

1. NBA - $5.1 million

The average NBA player will make $5.1 million in salary in 2015. That is easily the highest average salary of the four major sports leagues in the United States. NBA players make the most money, on average, because there are fewer NBA players than NFL players, or NHL players or major league baseball players.

NBA teams can have a maximum of 15 players per team. There are 30 NBA teams. So there only a total of 450 NBA players. NBA teams play 82 regular season games, and the league has a long playoff season too, which will generate enough income to pay the players an average of $5.1 million this year.