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TPercy
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3/9/2015  9:48 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
TPercy wrote:Isn't he a SF? Could he play the 2? Haven't seen much of him.

I remember he and Melo got into it when he was guarding Melo. Can't remember if that was last year or the 54 win team.

Ah

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TPercy
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3/9/2015  9:51 PM
RonRon wrote:He is a SF/PF, HIGH BB IQ, size/strength/mobility/defensive abiltiies allows him to defend G's and Center's on switches if needed
A great fit on how teams should play and how Atlanta has played as a team, like The Spur's have utilizing all 5 players instead of 1-2 players on ISO's, they have multiple DEFENDERS that could defend multiple positions but are undersized in general, however, with their lack of size comes extra mobility/quickness, allowing them to cheat and recover much quicker, with the HIGH IQ, HUSTLE, and TRUST/COMMUNICATION they have built with each other and Coach Bud, a student of Poppavich

On OFFENSE, he has improved his 3pt shot and usually only takes WIDE OPEN SHOTS, with great ball movement, player movement, sharing the basketball, with penetration from guards, and multiple players to spread the floor, taking what the DEFENSE gives them

They tend to use the MID RANGE from their BIGS like Horford *which plays Center* but was really a PF that has built his body to the strength of a center for the team
Taking wide open shots, making great cuts, and playing TOP NOTCH DEFENSE EVERY NIGHT, without an "ALL STAR" resembling a bit of our Knick's that won a ring with Frazier and Captian Willie Reed as Horford


Way's Atlanta initiates their OFFENSE, depending on match ups, how the defense plays them
In no specific order...

1- Utilizing Korver's ability to spread the floor, catch and shoot, and setting him double screens as he moves without the ball very well, they have multiple ways to can initiate an OFFENSE efficiently
He has taken a page out of RIP, who was one of the best of playing without the ball, who took a page out of Reggie Miller

2- Teague/Dennis Schrodder running the PnR with anyone that can hit the mid range shot and all guards could finish and hit the mid range and deep ball as well

3- utilizing Horford's midrange game at Center, which is suppose to be one of their weakness's that turned in their strenghts, as Centers generally do not like to go out to contend shooters
As Horford also could beat his man off the dribble if contested and has good ability to pass the ball, especially with great cuts and shooters to spread the floor

4- Millsap, like CA, he has the ability to play inside and out, while being highly efficient and willing to make the correct high % shot
All of their Center's, PF's, and SF's, in Horford, Millsap, Carroll can all shoot 3pters if open and are great mid range shoooters, on top of that they can all score in deep post position 1v1, and all are good passers, making it very hard to defend, as they can go to any one person on any play/any given night

5- then their is their bench

They have great depth and the development of Dennis Schrodder has greatly elevated their style of play and defense


Staring lineup, while they may be undersized at the 5 position and maybe even the PF, they have multiple/versatile/skilled players that uses their HIGH IQ/TEAM CHEMISTRY to make up for their size and "lack of STARS"

Teague
Korver
DaMarre Carroll
Millsap
Horford

Dennis Schroeder at PG/SG
With Shelvin Mack as a combo guard that can light it up as well
John Jenkins as another SG with great shooting ability that barely gets to play

Kent Baezemore who played for GS and was drafted by them as their backup G/F
Thabo Sethelosha as a G/F

Mike Scott as a F that has GREAT SHOOTING ABILITY that can play SG, SF, PF if needed as a stretch 4

Pero Antic as a stretch 5 with great size, has a similar built to Pekovic who can play inside and play DEFENSE/GRAB boards but also spread the floor as a backup sretch 5 that is also a RFA
Elton Brand for depth/leadership and Mike Muscula who is another stretch 5

His shooting looks really good so i can see what you mean.

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3/10/2015  11:58 AM
Free Agency is going to be a VERY difficult process. If we just look at the logic of FA--why would a team give up a player they like to another team--especially knowing that the salary cap requirements are going to move up materially?

RFA is extremely difficult.

Would it be a plan to overpay some to offer Millsap and Carrol(2/5ths of a top 2 team in the NBA contracts? that still would make Atlanta pause?

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4/29/2015  7:51 PM
I'm coming back here to what I originally thought

This guy is the truth. We'd have to pay up now--but I think hes worth it. Remember were going to have to beat out 12 other teams who KNOW free agency is limited and that the really good players are going to be tough to move.

Im going with Demarre as my NUMBER1 free agent and I will offer him a contract around 12mm per--because I know what I have to beat out.


4 years 48-50mm (12-12.5)

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4/29/2015  10:07 PM
hes the perfect 3&D guy that Id love on the knicks!! BRIGGS we finally agree
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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4/30/2015  3:15 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I'm coming back here to what I originally thought

This guy is the truth. We'd have to pay up now--but I think hes worth it. Remember were going to have to beat out 12 other teams who KNOW free agency is limited and that the really good players are going to be tough to move.

Im going with Demarre as my NUMBER1 free agent and I will offer him a contract around 12mm per--because I know what I have to beat out.


4 years 48-50mm (12-12.5)

I like him a lot too, however it depends who we draft- Carroll at SF means moving Melo to PF, which wouldn't really work if we end up drafting OK4. Only really makes sense if we draft Russell or Towns

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4/30/2015  11:21 AM
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I'm coming back here to what I originally thought

This guy is the truth. We'd have to pay up now--but I think hes worth it. Remember were going to have to beat out 12 other teams who KNOW free agency is limited and that the really good players are going to be tough to move.

Im going with Demarre as my NUMBER1 free agent and I will offer him a contract around 12mm per--because I know what I have to beat out.


4 years 48-50mm (12-12.5)

I like him a lot too, however it depends who we draft- Carroll at SF means moving Melo to PF, which wouldn't really work if we end up drafting OK4. Only really makes sense if we draft Russell or Towns

You can play Carroll up and down the roster at 2-3-4 so his playing diversity makes him a no brainer. The problem is its going to cost us--his market value went way up.

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4/30/2015  12:49 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I'm coming back here to what I originally thought

This guy is the truth. We'd have to pay up now--but I think hes worth it. Remember were going to have to beat out 12 other teams who KNOW free agency is limited and that the really good players are going to be tough to move.

Im going with Demarre as my NUMBER1 free agent and I will offer him a contract around 12mm per--because I know what I have to beat out.


4 years 48-50mm (12-12.5)

I like him a lot too, however it depends who we draft- Carroll at SF means moving Melo to PF, which wouldn't really work if we end up drafting OK4. Only really makes sense if we draft Russell or Towns

You can play Carroll up and down the roster at 2-3-4 so his playing diversity makes him a no brainer. The problem is its going to cost us--his market value went way up.

I think it was already going to be about $10-$12mil before the playoffs- the talk of getting him for $7mil was madness. Not sure what he'll get now

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4/30/2015  1:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/30/2015  1:05 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I'm coming back here to what I originally thought

This guy is the truth. We'd have to pay up now--but I think hes worth it. Remember were going to have to beat out 12 other teams who KNOW free agency is limited and that the really good players are going to be tough to move.

Im going with Demarre as my NUMBER1 free agent and I will offer him a contract around 12mm per--because I know what I have to beat out.


4 years 48-50mm (12-12.5)

I like him a lot too, however it depends who we draft- Carroll at SF means moving Melo to PF, which wouldn't really work if we end up drafting OK4. Only really makes sense if we draft Russell or Towns

You can play Carroll up and down the roster at 2-3-4 so his playing diversity makes him a no brainer. The problem is its going to cost us--his market value went way up.

I think it was already going to be about $10-$12mil before the playoffs- the talk of getting him for $7mil was madness. Not sure what he'll get now

Hes going to get 12-13mm--hes a UFA in a thin market--his contract will come at a premium. The team that is smart will spend quickly. If you dont you will be looking at other teams gobble up the top tier guys and then you will have to overpay the secondary guys above the MLE.

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Love this guy--Demare Carroll

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