Finestrg wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

callmened wrote:im all about keeping it real. this guy sucks and i doubt hell be in the NBA in a few yrs

I had to chuckle a bit when I saw an article or blog post that said the Knicks acquired a "sharpshooter" in Schved considering he has never shot over .400 in his entire NBA career.

He's a better shooter than that. Shumpert shot less than 40% total all 3 years in college and right around 30% from 3. Pablo Prigioni in the Spanish league the year before we got him, shot 40% overall and 27% from 3. Both these guys became better shooters in the NBA--I thought it became possibly the best aspect of each player's game while they were here in fact. In 2011-12 season in Russia combined, Shved shot 47.5% from the floor overall (238-501), 41.5% from 3 (80-193) and 79.4% at the line (112-141). Those numbers are more than respectable and indicate that he can shoot the ball. If we're gonna use Emmanuel Mudiay's numbers in China before he went down to say that he definitively can't shoot, then let's use these numbers for Shved to say that maybe he can get better. I'm not trying to make Shved out to be Michael Jordan but let's give him a chance. Decent international shooting numbers before the NBA, a clean enough looking stroke and release (something Shumpert had too--when you have this, there's legit hope to fix a shot and raise a shooting %), a slew of intangibles at 6'6" and more than a handful of good performances in the NBA under his belt thusfar. Let's see what he can do. If Fisher doesn't play this kid big mins the rest of the way, it's a fail.

Ok sure I am not advocating benching the dude but why are his numbers from the Russian league a better indicator of what he is capable of than, you know, his three seasons worth of numbers from the NBA?

The other examples pretty much right away were capable shooters. Schved's had three seasons, no improvement.

H1AND1 wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

callmened wrote:im all about keeping it real. this guy sucks and i doubt hell be in the NBA in a few yrs

I had to chuckle a bit when I saw an article or blog post that said the Knicks acquired a "sharpshooter" in Schved considering he has never shot over .400 in his entire NBA career.

He's a better shooter than that. Shumpert shot less than 40% total all 3 years in college and right around 30% from 3. Pablo Prigioni in the Spanish league the year before we got him, shot 40% overall and 27% from 3. Both these guys became better shooters in the NBA--I thought it became possibly the best aspect of each player's game while they were here in fact. In 2011-12 season in Russia combined, Shved shot 47.5% from the floor overall (238-501), 41.5% from 3 (80-193) and 79.4% at the line (112-141). Those numbers are more than respectable and indicate that he can shoot the ball. If we're gonna use Emmanuel Mudiay's numbers in China before he went down to say that he definitively can't shoot, then let's use these numbers for Shved to say that maybe he can get better. I'm not trying to make Shved out to be Michael Jordan but let's give him a chance. Decent international shooting numbers before the NBA, a clean enough looking stroke and release (something Shumpert had too--when you have this, there's legit hope to fix a shot and raise a shooting %), a slew of intangibles at 6'6" and more than a handful of good performances in the NBA under his belt thusfar. Let's see what he can do. If Fisher doesn't play this kid big mins the rest of the way, it's a fail.

Ok sure I am not advocating benching the dude but why are his numbers from the Russian league a better indicator of what he is capable of than, you know, his three seasons worth of numbers from the NBA?

mreinman wrote:

TPercy wrote:

good stuff. He did miss lots of open guys though.

Also, the guys shooting numbers have been terrible. How does that magically get better.

All the time on this forum assumptions are made about guys without any real knowledge of the players skills and BB aptitude. Shved has legit BB IQ and played pro ball before coming to the states. He's only in his 3rd yr. his experience shows over our younger guards.

You might turn out to be right, and then someone's entire universe could explode!

jrodmc wrote:nix, please be careful here.

You might turn out to be right, and then someone's entire universe could explode!

With all the latest articles coming out about the knicks trading options and FA options (like Bargs), I think their universe is already exploding....

He has an ability to get into the paint and to the rim off the dribble. On top of that he can make a lay-up if he gets close enough and he actually has enough vision and passing ability to find the open man.

When he first got here I couldn't get over his rail-thin body but the kid has held up well and in a matter of 10 days or so he looks 100% better in the system than guys like Shump, JR and Timmy.

Shved's handle and ability to penetrate are so far superior to Shumpert that it almost makes me cry.

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Shved provides the one thing we've been desperately missing the past few years.

He has an ability to get into the paint and to the rim off the dribble. On top of that he can make a lay-up if he gets close enough and he actually has enough vision and passing ability to find the open man.

When he first got here I couldn't get over his rail-thin body but the kid has held up well and in a matter of 10 days or so he looks 100% better in the system than guys like Shump, JR and Timmy.

Shved's handle and ability to penetrate are so far superior to Shumpert that it almost makes me cry.

I just wish he could hit his shots better. He looks great but that shot just doesnt fall and his %s historically arent good.

and its not just hitting shots. his shot selection can be pretty suspect at times.