nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Shved looked good, he's still getting acclimated and besides what did we expect him to do? We give other players a month to get the hang of the Triangle and expect him to just come in and ball? Let's have some perspective.

This is about letting guys play and try to develop. It's not like snapping your finger and all of a sudden guys just jump levels. Bargs has barely played in over a season. It's gonna take him time to get his game back too. I really think this is an example of the impatience and unreasonable attitudes of NY fans. We're headed to the lottery people CALM THE F DOWN!!! JESUS!!!

Why are people still complaining about losing when they know we don't have the talent and guys are developing? Let's just hope the pong pong balls fall our way and we get that top 3 pick.

Shved looked like sht--did you happen to watch Boston guards go where ever they wanted--it was like target practice there in the 2nd half. Calderon walked off hopefully he wont come back hes the worst player in the team.

You blaming Shved for that? He wasn't getting burned all night. You just have a fixation on the fact that Jose can't guard anyone. The thing that killed us was PnR and not being able to rotate properly nor quick enough. The ICED the PnR but failed to rotate when the ball was swung. That wasn't Shved or Jose! Watch the game again.

That's called sadomasochism watching the Knicks twice. Sorry nixluva you know very little about hoop if you think those two put an ounce of ball pressure on the C's guards absolute zero. Their PGs were doing what they wanted at will.

Vmart wrote:Total over reaction to what we already know. I see fair amount of talent on this team that will work well with very good players around them. What you are seeing is back ups that will compliment these aren't the guys that are going to be focal point players.

EXACTLY!!! We don't have Starting level talent right now. That's the point of this off season. We hope to draft one top talent and sign a couple more. It's what this rebuild is all about. Why do we have to keep going over this?

BRIGGS wrote:

Vmart wrote:Total over reaction to what we already know. I see fair amount of talent on this team that will work well with very good players around them. What you are seeing is back ups that will compliment these aren't the guys that are going to be focal point players.

We have no PG we have no 3 point shooter we have no penetrator we have no shot blocker. Sure Jason Smith can play next to Tim Duncan--I can see that. We have some fringe players but not many.

The roster will not be the same come next year. You know and we all know that change is coming.

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:Good! Thank god! The 8th seed is the worst. I'd rather stink to high hell then get that garbage. I'd literally drive the tank if it was an option.

Drive the tank...and get pick #4...lol

What would you do then....kill yourself?

I've been trying to say this for a while now. We are heading back to the same point next year, the way this is going. Just to watch Toronto or Denver get our high pick.

We are depending on a rookie GM, rookie Coach and a rookie top 4 pick (maybe OK4 who fits right in with our lack of defense) to turn this ship around....Oh, don't forget the owner who will fold to all this negative energy from fans, media, endorsements.....This is why NYC is not good at tanking. Fans analyze every single inch, even when the plan is clear as day.....I feel sorry for the knick fans that continue to watch and cry themselves to sleep every night....lol

Brace yourself knick fans...It's not looking good right now....

Do exactly what everybody else would do when a plane is about to crash.

PUT YOU HEAD BETWEEN YOUR LEGS.....AND PRAY FOR A MIRACLE!

Wow dude, calm the f down. Only person on the brick on suicide is clearly u. The only way to improve in this league is to stink at some pt. Plus the #1 pick isn't always fhethe best player in the draft. Rhey have plently of money and a high pick. I'll take my chances. They basically had no other realistic option this yr and are all worse off from a personal perspective for having read your post. May God have mercy on your soul.

nixluva wrote:

Vmart wrote:Total over reaction to what we already know. I see fair amount of talent on this team that will work well with very good players around them. What you are seeing is back ups that will compliment these aren't the guys that are going to be focal point players.

EXACTLY!!! We don't have Starting level talent right now. That's the point of this off season. We hope to draft one top talent and sign a couple more. It's what this rebuild is all about. Why do we have to keep going over this?

This is why it's so hard to have a total rebuild in NY....Most die hard fans will never get it. But I will say one thing.

This is a clear sign that we will have major growing pains learning the triangle, regardless who we add.

We really need a few superstars like Kobe, Jordan, Shaqs level to lead this team. They are the types to still get buckets even when the triangle loses shape. But anybody else will usually think too much, and look like robots out there. Which affects their defense as well. Only the elite players who has enough confidence in their game to challenge the system when needed, will be able to perform, regardless of the system shape. Then the role players will follow them and we will start winning games. And this can happen overnight, IF PHIL ADDS THE RIGHT PLAYERS.

Melo is that type when healthy....He can score in any system. But he needs a running mate, a locker room LEADER and floor leader to ride with him. It's a shame Melo cant be more of a leader, when he's getting Lebron money, but thats the cards we were dealt. Can't cry over spilled milk now.

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:Good! Thank god! The 8th seed is the worst. I'd rather stink to high hell then get that garbage. I'd literally drive the tank if it was an option.

Drive the tank...and get pick #4...lol

What would you do then....kill yourself?

I've been trying to say this for a while now. We are heading back to the same point next year, the way this is going. Just to watch Toronto or Denver get our high pick.

We are depending on a rookie GM, rookie Coach and a rookie top 4 pick (maybe OK4 who fits right in with our lack of defense) to turn this ship around....Oh, don't forget the owner who will fold to all this negative energy from fans, media, endorsements.....This is why NYC is not good at tanking. Fans analyze every single inch, even when the plan is clear as day.....I feel sorry for the knick fans that continue to watch and cry themselves to sleep every night....lol

Brace yourself knick fans...It's not looking good right now....

Do exactly what everybody else would do when a plane is about to crash.

PUT YOU HEAD BETWEEN YOUR LEGS.....AND PRAY FOR A MIRACLE!

Wow dude, calm the f down. Only person on the brick on suicide is clearly u. The only way to improve in this league is to stink at some pt. Plus the #1 pick isn't always fhethe best player in the draft. Rhey have plently of money and a high pick. I'll take my chances. They basically had no other realistic option this yr and are all worse off from a personal perspective for having read your post. May God have mercy on your soul.

Swish....I'm doing fine over here. Nothing surprises me with this team, so I'm good. I'm just reacting to the energy from this board. Believe me, after we traded Ewing and my favorite player (Starks) left....then we added Melo (who I never thought was a super star).....I never had any real high hopes for a championship, until we add more players around Melo....I knew it would be a long road when we traded half the team to get him, and already in the hole with draft picks.

But I'm good.....I got too many positive things going on with me to let a Dolan owned team get me down. Please! This is fun to me.....I'm like that little kid that starts fights in school....Then slowly back away. lol

Oh...one more thing....the best we can do as fans, is stop analyzing every single play or possession, it will drive you crazy and make you start threads like this one. Not watching the game today, and only reading the reactions is great...you should try it. I know how it feels to watch your team look like trash every game....I was that type to never miss a game. But thats no longer a top priority for me. The Draft couldn't come any sooner!

Splat wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Vmart wrote:Total over reaction to what we already know. I see fair amount of talent on this team that will work well with very good players around them. What you are seeing is back ups that will compliment these aren't the guys that are going to be focal point players.

EXACTLY!!! We don't have Starting level talent right now. That's the point of this off season. We hope to draft one top talent and sign a couple more. It's what this rebuild is all about. Why do we have to keep going over this?

I swear to god you are an unholy combination of the Energizer Bunny and Elmer Fudd.

Your vendetta against Nixluva is lame- you've already said you're not a Knicks fan anymore, so why are you bothering posting here? You started posting here less than a year ago so don't start laying into valued posters who have been here since near the beginning.

BRIGGS wrote:

EnySpree wrote:What should they do waive the whole team and forfeit the season?

This team is not set up to win anything so I don't get the point of a thread like this.

It means moving forward we have basically nothing. You see how the Timberwolves have Wiggins Lavine Muhammed Dieng and a bunch of good veterans--they have something. I dont know WTF Philly is doing but I dont care either. All of this talk about how were going to get this free agnet etc.. we dont have a base of a team--its nothing. Zero.

Yeah but we can't do anything about that. Phil inherented a bad situation. We're startng from scratch. We can't get high level draft picks unless we had a hot tub time machine. We have a few young guys and a few guys on the current roster we will end up keeping.

Yes we need to sign everybody from starts to 15th man. That's just the Knicks situation. Can't cry about it. It's no use. The past is the past and a knicks fans past is that of a porn star....a porn star trying to get a job as a guidance counselor

blkexec wrote:

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:Good! Thank god! The 8th seed is the worst. I'd rather stink to high hell then get that garbage. I'd literally drive the tank if it was an option.

Drive the tank...and get pick #4...lol

What would you do then....kill yourself?

I've been trying to say this for a while now. We are heading back to the same point next year, the way this is going. Just to watch Toronto or Denver get our high pick.

We are depending on a rookie GM, rookie Coach and a rookie top 4 pick (maybe OK4 who fits right in with our lack of defense) to turn this ship around....Oh, don't forget the owner who will fold to all this negative energy from fans, media, endorsements.....This is why NYC is not good at tanking. Fans analyze every single inch, even when the plan is clear as day.....I feel sorry for the knick fans that continue to watch and cry themselves to sleep every night....lol

Brace yourself knick fans...It's not looking good right now....

Do exactly what everybody else would do when a plane is about to crash.

PUT YOU HEAD BETWEEN YOUR LEGS.....AND PRAY FOR A MIRACLE!

Wow dude, calm the f down. Only person on the brick on suicide is clearly u. The only way to improve in this league is to stink at some pt. Plus the #1 pick isn't always fhethe best player in the draft. Rhey have plently of money and a high pick. I'll take my chances. They basically had no other realistic option this yr and are all worse off from a personal perspective for having read your post. May God have mercy on your soul.

Swish....I'm doing fine over here. Nothing surprises me with this team, so I'm good. I'm just reacting to the energy from this board. Believe me, after we traded Ewing and my favorite player (Starks) left....then we added Melo (who I never thought was a super star).....I never had any real high hopes for a championship, until we add more players around Melo....I knew it would be a long road when we traded half the team to get him, and already in the hole with draft picks.

But I'm good.....I got too many positive things going on with me to let a Dolan owned team get me down. Please! This is fun to me.....I'm like that little kid that starts fights in school....Then slowly back away. lol

Oh...one more thing....the best we can do as fans, is stop analyzing every single play or possession, it will drive you crazy and make you start threads like this one. Not watching the game today, and only reading the reactions is great...you should try it. I know how it feels to watch your team look like trash every game....I was that type to never miss a game. But thats no longer a top priority for me. The Draft couldn't come any sooner!

I agree with the reactions to each game. The team is playing out the string many of these guys probably won't be in the league this yr. If they are, their role will be negligible. I am fine with thinking the team will screw up the draft and offseason although I like to believe they are moving in the right direction. That said, my point is really that getting the 7th or 8th seed is the worst. I'd rather stink even if it doesn't work out than play a top team and get smacked in 4 or 5 games then end up drafting somebody with almost no shot of sticking around in the league.

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

blkexec wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:Good! Thank god! The 8th seed is the worst. I'd rather stink to high hell then get that garbage. I'd literally drive the tank if it was an option.

Drive the tank...and get pick #4...lol

What would you do then....kill yourself?

I've been trying to say this for a while now. We are heading back to the same point next year, the way this is going. Just to watch Toronto or Denver get our high pick.

We are depending on a rookie GM, rookie Coach and a rookie top 4 pick (maybe OK4 who fits right in with our lack of defense) to turn this ship around....Oh, don't forget the owner who will fold to all this negative energy from fans, media, endorsements.....This is why NYC is not good at tanking. Fans analyze every single inch, even when the plan is clear as day.....I feel sorry for the knick fans that continue to watch and cry themselves to sleep every night....lol

Brace yourself knick fans...It's not looking good right now....

Do exactly what everybody else would do when a plane is about to crash.

PUT YOU HEAD BETWEEN YOUR LEGS.....AND PRAY FOR A MIRACLE!

Nope--the plan right now is to assemble a base core out of the roster we have. The problem is most of the guys are brutal especially on the D and inconsistent on the O. Were going to get a top 4 pick--thats a lock of a guarantee. There is no plan there it was already happening.

After a while, you can not continue to blame the players.....Granted I haven't watch this last game. But I have a feeling if you put these guys on different teams, they will all shine like stars.....

That is so obvious, people keep saying fisher has nothing to work with, but he looks just as bad as the players, probably worse cause the knicks compete for like one qtr, and play super low IQ bball for 3 qtrs.

Splat wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

nixluva wrote:Shved looked good, he's still getting acclimated and besides what did we expect him to do? We give other players a month to get the hang of the Triangle and expect him to just come in and ball? Let's have some perspective.

This is about letting guys play and try to develop. It's not like snapping your finger and all of a sudden guys just jump levels. Bargs has barely played in over a season. It's gonna take him time to get his game back too. I really think this is an example of the impatience and unreasonable attitudes of NY fans. We're headed to the lottery people CALM THE F DOWN!!! JESUS!!!

Why are people still complaining about losing when they know we don't have the talent and guys are developing? Let's just hope the pong pong balls fall our way and we get that top 3 pick.

who are we developing? they all suck, and getting worse by the game.

You're responding to a guy who couldn't STFU about how good a player Calderon really is, just give it time. Replete with all kinds of career stats. Meanwhile, Calderon sucks big time and this clown can't stop telling people off. And some here wonder why I'm beating up on this guy? He has no respect for logic or other posters. They are not an optimist. They are a goon whose default position is to always support everything Dolan does. Nix is insane.

Nix means well, but I'm just baffled at how he keeps saying were developing players who have no shot at being here next season, or may not even be in the NBA.

But anyone who think fisher is suffering strictly because of the roster, is in for a rude awakening come next season. He is the worst coach i have ever seen in my life.. on any level.