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FistOfOakley
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2/22/2015  8:08 PM
calderon isn't half bad... he's not a zero... what's worrisome is that he always misses a dozen or so games over the course of the year... he can be something of a mediocre starting guard or decent bench pg...

we are not in a position to just be waiving nba caliber players... when he's healthy he can play... if he can never stay healthy then we should cut him loose...

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NYKBocker
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2/23/2015  11:31 AM
If LMA can't be had for the max then I would like to get Greg Monroe. He would probably cost around 8M-9MM. He is the perfect C for the triangle. Has all the skillset needed from a C/PF for the triangle.

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2/23/2015  12:07 PM
NYKBocker wrote:If LMA can't be had for the max then I would like to get Greg Monroe. He would probably cost around 8M-9MM. He is the perfect C for the triangle. Has all the skillset needed from a C/PF for the triangle.

8M-9MM is a pipe dream.
He and his agents are no fools.
Monroe will get near current max.
Not sure it worth it long term even for 15M per.
Panic move for the Knicks.

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fishmike
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2/23/2015  12:49 PM
arkrud wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:If LMA can't be had for the max then I would like to get Greg Monroe. He would probably cost around 8M-9MM. He is the perfect C for the triangle. Has all the skillset needed from a C/PF for the triangle.

8M-9MM is a pipe dream.
He and his agents are no fools.
Monroe will get near current max.
Not sure it worth it long term even for 15M per.
Panic move for the Knicks.

panic move? Monroe at 4 years $60mm would be a good player and a great piece to have moving forward. Thats a building block piece. You think Monroe is worth less than Nene? I mean he's a skilled (almost) 7 footer who may not be a star but is very good. People need to stop thinking of saviors and simply high end rotation guys. He would be a nice piece. Better than Gasol
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2/23/2015  1:01 PM

Monroe is a 16mm max player and in the current environment getting a 25 year old to whom might be elevated by the system might be a huge pick up.

Free agency is after the draft we can see where w fall into. Take a kid like him, then maybe trade down to get two 1 picks if we are lucky to get the no. 1 pick and Philly gets the 3 or 4 Perhaps we go that route and inject
Monroe, Russell in the draft, and who ever Briggs is hot for at the 12.

Leave some room for Durant in '16. NYC needs that Starphuch Carrot.

Next year the goal is top 10 in the conference with strong finish and a healthy Melo!!!!

First things first.............Just lose baby!!!!! No. 1 pick and do what we may with it. If Phil think Russell is his sleeper Jordan (taken 3rd) or his Mamba (taken 13th) and get another player at the 12 then that could go a long way to solving one of the many holes to fill.

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2/23/2015  1:05 PM
fishmike wrote:
arkrud wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:If LMA can't be had for the max then I would like to get Greg Monroe. He would probably cost around 8M-9MM. He is the perfect C for the triangle. Has all the skillset needed from a C/PF for the triangle.

8M-9MM is a pipe dream.
He and his agents are no fools.
Monroe will get near current max.
Not sure it worth it long term even for 15M per.
Panic move for the Knicks.

panic move? Monroe at 4 years $60mm would be a good player and a great piece to have moving forward. Thats a building block piece. You think Monroe is worth less than Nene? I mean he's a skilled (almost) 7 footer who may not be a star but is very good. People need to stop thinking of saviors and simply high end rotation guys. He would be a nice piece. Better than Gasol

With CBA money incresing getting Monroe will come with an opt out to get him a bigger deal two years into a 4 year deal. Im just saying thats how it goes down.
YOu want a Free agent, you gotta over pay. Its not about the money, until its about the money!!!!

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2/23/2015  2:02 PM
knickscity wrote:
blkexec wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If we waive Calderon and pick up 5mm in cap spac e well have around 33-35 mm in the coffers. DO NOT BELIEVE that Phil is going to spend it all on 2-3 players especially now that free agency has been cut in half. In fact other than LeBron I have no interest in paying 16-20mm to anyone. I'd rather have an aggressive draft plan and piece meal free agency-- leaving 20mm next year open for kd. I do have some fear that Dolan will enforce us to pay max salaries to guys like rondo and Monroe and shoot our load going forward for 4 years based on the theory Carmel AnD will win a Championship or with Dolan just be a lower tier playoff team

I believe it is only 4m in cap space and including the draft pick and holds for open roster sots the knicks will only have around $30-31m I think.

No it's 5mm it's 7.5 spread over 3 years

It would actually be $15.1+ over 5 years. There are two more years left on his contract. I guess it is possible to reduce that number slightly if they agree to a buyout but why would Calderon do that?

Yellow once this season concludes he has 1 year. You spread 1 yr over 3 yrs using the provision

I don't know where you are looking but he is signed through 2016/2017

H shyt you are right I thought he was an ending contract.wtf was Phil thinking? Well I'd still waive him gain the 4mm and spread the rest as the cap will move up substantially anyway. I apologize I really thought it stated he was 1 yr remaining.

Thats exactly my point. Phil knew what he was getting with Calderon. Its a chess move where he had starter potential at best....backup at worse.....expiring trade bait.....connections with his spanish brothers......and a high IQ pg that should pickup the triangle and be an improvement over Felton. At this point why cut him now? Dont we have time for that? Did he learn from simply cutting players vs getting something in return instead? We have so many holes to fill and hes not the highest priority to fix. This team is so bad....if we had Dragic....fans would boo him too once they see his defense is similar to Calderon. This team needs a total makeover of leaders. Right now we have a team of bench players and d leaguers.


Dragic's defense isn't anywhere near as bad as calderon's. i agree we need a total makeover though

why, phil just put this team together 180 days ago, you mean he needs to make over again

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