WaltLongmire wrote:BRIGGS wrote:WaltLongmire wrote:Nalod wrote:If we have no. 1 pick how we gonna fool them into believing we want Russell????
Sun Tzu died a few thousand years ago, unfortunately, so I could not get more specific info from him on this particular case.
Do you think it's that difficult to bluff folks if we are at #1? OK4 has his detractors, and most of the other players deemed worthy of a top 5 pick have weaknesses of one sort or the other. Bigs seem to have a bigger bust potential, so Phil could play that card.
Maybe Phil actually does want Russell after he watches the NCAA tournament and conducts pre-draft workouts, or at least he is undecided. Russell has some good workouts, reinforcing Philly's belief that he is the chosen one, and Jackson goes mystical Zen with reporters and creates a seed of doubt about who we really want with the first pick in the draft.
Not saying it is easy to do, but Philly has some size at this point, and Mudiay has a limited track record against decent competition. If Russell is the missing piece for them, they might bite, especially if he has a decent tournament and wows teams in his workouts.
Worth trying... even if it doesn't work we would still have the #1 pick.
Hey Walt--who would you take number 1 right now--Okafor or Towns? or somebody else?
Don't know what I would do, yet.
Have not seen Towns enough, and he is not on the kind of team where he can get as much play as OK4, but he plays with Kentucky, and is undoubtedly more well rounded than we have seen so far.
Saw OK4 the other day. Unbelievable around the basket with the ball, uninspiring on D, although he did make some plays. Surprised he couldn't hit a foul shot. Showed toughness coming back from the injury, though. Not a bad passer. Has to learn that he is not a SF in the open court. Can he hit the midrange shot?
Tyus Jones is the gamer on that team, though- you can see something in his eyes.
Mostly clips of Russell and Mudiay, but Phil might like the larger multi-talented guard. Russell is less mature physically than Mudiay, and once he fils out he might be the special talent in this draft. Wish Mudiay had more of a track record.
If the Knicks go big, the guy has to be able to block some shots. Can OK4 do that? Years ago I thought that Duncan was soft and would have problems in the NBA. He got bigger after his college season, and had a bigger heart than I thought he had- so I'm hesitant to make predictions with OK4, who has a better body than Duncan at the same age, but has not shown tenacity on D.
If you trade #1 for #2 & #6 you could take OK4 at 2 and another big at 6 (Stein? That would mean OK4 would be a PF with Stein a C) or maybe Mudiay if he is there. If you could get 2,11, and 19, maybe you end up with OK$/Towns, Winslow, one of the international players, and Portis.
All depends on how much Philly wants Russell. I just think we need multiple picks, and the 76ers would be the best team to get them from.
I tend to agree with you. I think Id give up Russell and Okafor IF I could get Towns
AND picks 11 32 35 and Philly next year top 2 nd rounder.
In that case Id probably do something like this
Pick #3 or 4
Towns
Pick # 11
Porzingis or Portis(1 will be there)
Pick 32
Christmas Christian Wood Gbinje
Pick 35 Michael Gbinje Christmas or Wood if they are left
and then look for a 3 point specialist either by buying a pick or looking for guys who go undrafted.
That would potentially give me a lot of size rebounding and defense and a tall athletic G who w can play at PG in this system.
--Towns 7-0 250 C/PF (Highly skilled PF/C who may not be done growing)
--Portis 6-11 245 PF(great mid range J active defender with size)
--Wood 7-0 225 F/C (Raw F with as much upside as pick #1 will need development time but has all the tools and has a 7-5 wingspan and + 35 inch vertical at 7 feet tall with range to 3)Or Christmas 6-9 250 low block player with really good athletic ability tough physical defender good rebounder passer long arms plays bigger than 6-9 at times good stamina developed game good foul shot means he can develop 12 footer something between a Dale Davis and Al horford imho.
--Gbinje 6-7 200 PG/SG Can play PG in our system later bloomer very athletic good defender plays with his head up and gets to the rim easy --owns a nice 3 pt shot
I think wed have enough here to let Greg Monroe go somewhere else and resign Jason Smith. I still think we can get K Martin for Hardaway and absorbing the cap space and trade for David Lee for the 1 year 15mm and 2 Golden State number 1 picks in 2016 and 2018
We still need rebuilding time--but wed be much improved much bigger longer with a lot of team athleticism and added skills. Playoff team or close. Following year wed still have massive cap room and maybe GS# 1 pick.
That would be
C- Jason Smith(2 years 10mm 1 guaranteed)
PF Karl Towns
F Carmelo Anthony
SG Kevin Martin
PG Jose Calderon
C Portis
PF David Lee 1 year 15mm)
F Lance Thomas
SG Mike Dunleavy 1 year 3mm
PG Gbinje
Wood
Early
Thansis
Galloway
Robert Upshaw? picked up around 50
