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EnySpree
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2/12/2015  4:50 AM
smackeddog wrote:

I think someone a few people on here want us to sign him in the offseason

I'd want out too. Utah has no clue what they want to do over therr

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2/12/2015  10:50 AM
EnySpree wrote:
smackeddog wrote:

I think someone a few people on here want us to sign him in the offseason

I'd want out too. Utah has no clue what they want to do over therr

Calderon's contract matches up really nice.
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2/12/2015  11:25 AM
How about Jason Smith to Phoenix for T J Warren(he can take melo's spot for the rest of the year) and pick #47 2015.
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2/12/2015  12:32 PM
BRIGGS wrote:How about Jason Smith to Phoenix for T J Warren(he can take melo's spot for the rest of the year) and pick #47 2015.

Really think Suns will give up there 1st rd pick for a one year contract Jason Smith?!?!

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2/12/2015  12:50 PM
chewy wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:How about Jason Smith to Phoenix for T J Warren(he can take melo's spot for the rest of the year) and pick #47 2015.

Really think Suns will give up there 1st rd pick for a one year contract Jason Smith?!?!

Thats a 2nd round pick and a roster player. Tell me what quality big man you can get for 3mm right now? All depends if they want to upgrade the frontcourt.

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2/12/2015  1:30 PM
BRIGGS wrote:How about Jason Smith to Phoenix for T J Warren(he can take melo's spot for the rest of the year) and pick #47 2015.

I wouldn't be surprised if they signed Amar'e- nice fit of him (gets good medical help) and them (free front court help and leadership)
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2/12/2015  1:42 PM
Hmm, I think Dragic will get trade to Houston for a first rounder, taking him off our list of possible free agents.
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2/12/2015  1:53 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Nalod wrote:NYKBocker,

thats a fun scenario you put forth. They'd need a few years to really come together. Not sure the economics of those rookie contracts all hitting at the same time would do, but it would be fun to build a "TEAM" and watch it grow.
Just don't know in this era that is possible anymore.

Washington tried it and failed. Krause tried it with his twin towers.

While Melo has his detracters, he is a proven commodity. Im not sure we can really field a true contender around him, but he can be a piece around someone else. Who that player is, I don't know.

Its a fun idea you proposed!

Thank you. That's all it is.

Did Washington fail already? I think they are doing pretty well right now. They are a fun team to watch. The only thing I don't like about them is Paul Pierce.

Yeah..that Krause team after MJ was pretty bad but that was more a bad draft on Eddy Curry. Come on...which team has not been burned by Eddy Curry?

We are in a good spot right now. We can stay put and let the contracts expire and basically pick your players from the FA pool. Hopefully Phil will sign the right players for Melo.

How did Grunfeld keep his job? Owner Ted Lensois wanted a young team to build. Grun was not crazy about the idea given the team was young and lacked leadership. Shedding Blatche and Trading Mcgee for Nene with some other moves (they had added Reezy as well) enabled them to Draft Beal but mostly the moves were to blend in Yoot with some leadership. The team made great strides last year because of the "matureity" of both John Wall and veterans like Gortat and Nene...........

Thats what I meant about going with all yoot, the development is not always there unless you have some proven guys.

Melo is that for us in the next few years. Now, its just blowing it up!
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2/12/2015  2:27 PM
NYKBocker wrote:With the trade deadline coming fast, it's that time of the year for us to start proposing trade ideas.

I have been looking at this quite a bit and really there are 2 paths for our Knicks right now.

1. Try to trade our unwanted vets for picks on ending contracts. Amare for picks Bargs for a bag of Cheetos Calderon for yoots or picks.
2. Nuclear version and trade Carmelo.

My first thought is the nuclear option.

I think the Sixers would be a viable candidate. There already have been some writings in their media about this...
http://www.nj.com/sixers/index.ssf/2014/01/carmelo_anthony_trade_sixers_k.html
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1919029-how-long-will-it-take-philadelphia-76ers-to-complete-rebuild

My trade scenario would be to trade Carmelo and THJr for Expiring Contracts of Jason Richardson, Luc Mbah a Moute and Andrei Kirilenko PLUS both Sixers 2015 1st Round Picks #3(unprotected) and #15 overall and Jerami Grant.

Why would the Sixers do this? Well they get their Batman and MCW can be their Robin. Plus their 2 big men in Embiid and Noel. They will need a SG and that is where THJr comes in. This would be their roster for next year.
C-Embiid
PF-Noel
SF-MElo
SG-THJr
PG-MCW
Bench - PF-Aldemir, PG-Wroten, PF-Covington, SF-Thompson

They would still need to get another SG but that is a good team to surround Melo.

Why would we do it? We get 1 lottery pick and a mid 1st round pick. I am sure we can get good value there in the draft.

Say either the Sixers pick or Knicks get #1 overall and the other gets the #3 pick. We have 2 picks in the top 3...man I am salivating just thinking about it. We can draft the following...

#1 Jahil Okafor - We play him at PF
#3 D'Angelo Russel - We got our SG
#15 Willie Cauley-Stein - We play him at C.

We have our twin towers!!

That is 3 starting spots right there!

In free agency, we sign Lin. He is good with athletic players. Resign Admunson, Lance Thomas, Aldrich and Galloway. Sign Thanasis. Our roster would look like this...

C-Stein-7'
PF-Okafor-6'10"
SF-Early-6'7"
SG-Russel-6'5"
PG-Lin-6'3"

That is a long starting five that Phil Jackson teams always had.

Bench - PF-Admunson, C-Aldrich, SF-Thomas, PG-Galloway, PG-Calderon, SF-Thanasis, PF-Acy, SF-Wear

This should keep our cap steady for the Kevin Durant sweepstakes the following year.

Man....I would love this.

Yeah, Yeah...pipe dream.

Reasoning on Lin is that he should come cheap. Getting Dragic would mess up the cap a little as he would command a pretty big payday.


Thank you for not being the real GM of the Knicks.
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2/12/2015  2:38 PM
smackeddog wrote:I love the trade deadline, but it always ends up disappointing me!

That's because we're all used to not having players with contracts that are tradeable but if Phil does this rebuild the right way then we should always have players that other teams would want around the trade deadline if we need to make any changes. I fully trust that Phil will get it right and i'm not banking on it all being done next year because i think Phil will do it the right way and not get impatient if he can't get the players he's going after and be giving out bad contracts because of it.
Things are changing for the better for the New York Knicks which has been a long time coming so if i need to wait patiently for 2/3 more years then i'm fine with that. The only worry we should have in a few years is who will be replacing Phil.
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2/12/2015  3:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2015  3:17 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
smackeddog wrote:I love the trade deadline, but it always ends up disappointing me!

That's because we're all used to not having players with contracts that are tradeable but if Phil does this rebuild the right way then we should always have players that other teams would want around the trade deadline if we need to make any changes. I fully trust that Phil will get it right and i'm not banking on it all being done next year because i think Phil will do it the right way and not get impatient if he can't get the players he's going after and be giving out bad contracts because of it.
Things are changing for the better for the New York Knicks which has been a long time coming so if i need to wait patiently for 2/3 more years then i'm fine with that. The only worry we should have in a few years is who will be replacing Phil.
to be fair we have no assets anybdy wants. Amare will be bought out, Bargs couldnt buy you a soda lol, and obviously melo isnt going anywhere as long as James Dolan is the owner. Prigioni may have some value and by value i mean a 2nd rounder
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2/14/2015  11:42 AM
Heat are reportedly interested in Reggie Jackson and Dragic- wouldn't surprise me if they ended up snagging Reggie for Cole or Chalmers. If Reggie and Tragic get traded, and Wes Mathews stays in Portland, our backcourt options are down to Patrick Beverley and Danny Green.

Front court options seem to be holding steady- SVG said he has no intention of trading Monroe, but also didn't sound like he thought he'd be returning to the Pistons. Milsap didn't sound as locked into the Hawks as I thought he would be. Not heard much from Robin Lopez & Asik. Banter wants out (not a fan of his though).

The way things are shaping up, it might make more sense to draft Russell and keep Calderon (but still target Patrick Beverley- he'd be a nice complement to Russell in the backcourt), as there are more FA options at C and PF than there are at PG and SG (which is the opposite to how things looked a few weeks ago)
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2/14/2015  3:59 PM
Damn dude did Briggs kick your dog or something wtf
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2/16/2015  10:05 AM
Bucks are buying out Sanders. The Sixers did not give Frazier a second ten day contract. I am sure more guys will become available by the trade deadline.
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2/16/2015  12:16 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine · 3h3 hours ago
My man @ZachLowe_NBA writes of Toronto interest in David West. Hearing Indy leaning against trade unless West is one pushing to go. AND ...

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2/16/2015  12:57 PM
Old stuff, but good trade deadline fodder!!!
http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/02/craziest-trade-rumors-in-nba-history-that-never-came-to-fruition/
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2/16/2015  1:02 PM
Bropez might be on the move.
I didn't like the Charlotte rumor for Lance but I read the rumor it included Cody Zeller.
It makes them younger and Telotovitch might not make it back, and he is a free agent I thought.
Bropez to OKC but No Durant, westbrook, Adams or Ibaka to be included.
Sign David West as free agent, then trade him two years later for a 1st round pick? Great job Indy!!!!
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