nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Myles turner the true enigma of this draft I've seen Texas play 3 times including uconn and the only thing I noticed about him is an awkward running gait and that he is long. He has great form but also has trouble getting shots off in a clean fashion he is truly a potential boom bust guy. He needs more ncaa time and I doubt he contributes in the nba next year if he comes out

I would take Stein over Turner. I know exactly what i'm getting with Stein. I know the impact he'll have regardless of whether he makes any more improvement offensively. I just don't know about Turner. I worry about his physical make up in the NBA. So many more games and bigger guys banging on him. I just don't know about Turner at the next level.

There is 0 chance I would take either not a chance

-obviously offensively he is not good.. he can finish but that's about it.. if he dribbles at all it's an automatic TO..
-defensively he has good numbers and he looks the part of a decent defender but.. his rebounding numbers have gone down since towns and lyles came aboard which makes it seem to me that towns and lyles are better at hitting the boards.
-kentucky last year was 45th in the nation defensively with stein and dakari johnson.. with towns and lyles they are #1.. it seems to me that towns and lyles had a much bigger impact on their defense than stein/johnson ever did...

i think stein has a good chance at being a tyson chandler kind of center but there's enough question marks to say that he might just be a backup type...

fishmike wrote:shaking out to be a very interesting draft. You have some provem commodities with NBA skill sets in Russell and OK4. Both have the same knock, potentially lower ceiling as they lack the elite size or athleticism, but there is no denying these two freshmen are supremely talented. Then you have the higher ceiling guys in Muiday and Towns who show the skills but dont have the body of work to prove it will translate, but they are the athletic ponies in this race for sure.

they all have unknowns. Mudiay is hidden in china and can't shoot and Towns has question marks about his athleticism and explosiveness - not a supreme athlete.

Very few guys come out without question marks.

BRIGGS wrote:but what IF we are in position 5 or 6? Who do you take?

My 1.00

At pick #5 its become a no brainer for me--although the risk moves up substantially IMHO after pick 4 there is no doubt in my mind i would take Kristaps Porzingis next. I have not sen another athlete like him--he is NO "standard" European type player in any sense and has excellent athletic ability with very long arms(wingspan 7-7?) who can handle the ball has a nice touch on his shot and plays both ends. His upside is as high as anyone in the draft. I would have to have a doctor look at him and guarantee that he can put on a natural 20 pounds and stay what he is or even better.

Pick # 6 Bobby Portis One of the more under rated players who plays both ends and has been a consistent double double @ 6-11 245. He is a combination of Chris Bosh and Jermaine Oneal--hes going to be a good player. I would also listen intently on trades/trade downs etc..

Keeping the last overall position lets us AVOID this possible scenario. But it is a scenario

I am down with Porzingis -- limited film on him shows an high level athlete who is very long, very skilled.

Stanley Johnson is a stud --- I think he can play 1,2 & 3 in the pros. I think his game is being hidden at AZ thanks to great college PG on the team and just the congestion of the college game. I think Johnson will break-out at the NBA level. He's not just a SF -- he's a kid that can get where he wants with the dribble and has a legit mature NBA body already at 19.

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:but what IF we are in position 5 or 6? Who do you take?
At pick #5 its become a no brainer for me--although the risk moves up substantially IMHO after pick 4 there is no doubt in my mind i would take Kristaps Porzingis next. I have not sen another athlete like him

you're sht that we should just draft a big black guy is about as ignorant and racist a remark as I have heard here in a dozen years.

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:but what IF we are in position 5 or 6? Who do you take?

My 1.00

At pick #5 its become a no brainer for me--although the risk moves up substantially IMHO after pick 4 there is no doubt in my mind i would take Kristaps Porzingis next. I have not sen another athlete like him--he is NO "standard" European type player in any sense and has excellent athletic ability with very long arms(wingspan 7-7?) who can handle the ball has a nice touch on his shot and plays both ends. His upside is as high as anyone in the draft. I would have to have a doctor look at him and guarantee that he can put on a natural 20 pounds and stay what he is or even better.

Pick # 6 Bobby Portis One of the more under rated players who plays both ends and has been a consistent double double @ 6-11 245. He is a combination of Chris Bosh and Jermaine Oneal--hes going to be a good player. I would also listen intently on trades/trade downs etc..

Keeping the last overall position lets us AVOID this possible scenario. But it is a scenario

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I am down with Porzingis -- limited film on him shows an high level athlete who is very long, very skilled.

Stanley Johnson is a stud --- I think he can play 1,2 & 3 in the pros. I think his game is being hidden at AZ thanks to great college PG on the team and just the congestion of the college game. I think Johnson will break-out at the NBA level. He's not just a SF -- he's a kid that can get where he wants with the dribble and has a legit mature NBA body already at 19.

I love him also. Beast on defense also.

Hes the one everybody will be kicking themselves for passing on. Anybody whos above average on both ends....with lock down potential at 3 positions? is a low risk...high reward pick. Especially against college athletes.....instead of.....jeremy lin type dudes overseas. Thats why Mudiay is a high risk....but very high reward with his take over ability and nba body at 19.....6ft 5....200lbs

Mudiay has more westbrook potential than Russell....just because of size and physical gifts.

We are all guessing right now.....its all about who has that "i want to be the best" attitude wins. Whos mature enough to handle money and girls? Whats in their brain is also key. Whichis why OK4 continues to be the #1 pick since tbe season started. The only one in that same position. And if the pros and him are saying he has tim duncan potential....Then hes a better pick in the long run.

Its a toss up. You need to dig into their up bringing and family stability. Its not full proof but it helps.

Does he go with size or does he go with a guard who can dominate?