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StarksEwing1
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2/9/2015  9:03 AM
markvmc wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Marbury and melo are kind of similar. Both tremendous offensive talents from new york but not sure if you can build a contender around them

They are NOT the same player

Could be why he said they are "kind of similar" maybe...

exactly
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2/9/2015  10:00 AM
Marbury couldn't throw a lob pass I can't recall one.
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2/9/2015  1:11 PM
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SupremeCommander wrote:I don't think you can put his mental stability aside...

no, he was too weak mentally to make the most of his gifts. He still would have had to grow up. I mean, this is a guy who walked away from KG because he wanted to be THE man. Those two could have been lethal...

there was a book published in 2004 called "The Last Shot" by someone named darcy frey. it was a fascinating look at marbury and his family, and the author insinuates some damning things about marbury's father. nothing explicit, mind you, as that may have brought about a lawsuit. but still, the readers will glean plenty....

http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Shot-Streets-Basketball/dp/B004H8GMCG

grantland did a story on this in 2014. nice follow up bits.
http://grantland.com/features/the-last-shot-20-years-later-stephon-marbury-darcy-frey-classic-book-nyc-basketball/

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2/10/2015  4:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2015  4:44 AM
Anyone who thinks Marbury was even a good point guard needs to pay attention to the Larry Brown season and then after. Before that, Marbury relied solely on driving, pulling up and kicking the ball out on the doubles. Sure he could play pick and roll but that's bc it caused teams to double up on him and he was good at finding an open man. This is what helped him get 8 assists a night but that wasn't being a true point guard. When Larry Brown asked him to start initiating the offense and lead like a PG, he shut down. When Isiah (yak, cringe) said "i expect him to lead and defend from the PG position", he shut down even more.

Stephon Marbury was a scorer who just so happened to be the one to take the ball up the court. He was NOT a point guard.

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2/10/2015  4:42 AM
And to further prove my point, he was slightly better, as I recall, at defending 2s than other PG.
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2/10/2015  5:28 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:And to further prove my point, he was slightly better, as I recall, at defending 2s than other PG.

Tis true but you can't bring up larry brown. He was horrible here. I guess someone cab start a lay brown thread if you want to wallow in more sorrow

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2/10/2015  8:02 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:Anyone who thinks Marbury was even a good point guard needs to pay attention to the Larry Brown season and then after. Before that, Marbury relied solely on driving, pulling up and kicking the ball out on the doubles. Sure he could play pick and roll but that's bc it caused teams to double up on him and he was good at finding an open man. This is what helped him get 8 assists a night but that wasn't being a true point guard. When Larry Brown asked him to start initiating the offense and lead like a PG, he shut down. When Isiah (yak, cringe) said "i expect him to lead and defend from the PG position", he shut down even more.

Stephon Marbury was a scorer who just so happened to be the one to take the ball up the court. He was NOT a point guard.

yes, this is the heart of the matter, and excellently put.

and, by inference and in other words: TWEENER JUST LIKE CARMELO ANTHONY

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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EnySpree wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:And to further prove my point, he was slightly better, as I recall, at defending 2s than other PG.

Tis true but you can't bring up larry brown. He was horrible here. I guess someone cab start a lay brown thread if you want to wallow in more sorrow

do you have a head cold?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/10/2015  8:45 AM
dk7th wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:And to further prove my point, he was slightly better, as I recall, at defending 2s than other PG.

Tis true but you can't bring up larry brown. He was horrible here. I guess someone cab start a lay brown thread if you want to wallow in more sorrow

do you have a head cold?

I suffer from post suretype drip

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