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StarksEwing1
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2/9/2015  9:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/9/2015  9:48 AM
I just hope we dont go on any meaningless winning streaks at the end of the year. Hopefully melo shuts it down after all star game and amare is bought out
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jrodmc
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2/9/2015  11:29 AM
And the Bargs used car sale starts tonight!
matt
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2/9/2015  12:50 PM
Everyone knows Steph Curry would have been part of the Melo deal sooooo
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2/9/2015  1:04 PM
so many drafts picks have been trash as far as top 5 picks, so I don't know why for the life of me, some fans are so high on lottery picks. They either get hurt, never pan out, or become avg players.

Galloway easily looks like a top 10 pick, he looks way better than 6th overall pick marcus smart

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StarksEwing1
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2/9/2015  1:55 PM
knicks1248 wrote:so many drafts picks have been trash as far as top 5 picks, so I don't know why for the life of me, some fans are so high on lottery picks. They either get hurt, never pan out, or become avg players.

Galloway easily looks like a top 10 pick, he looks way better than 6th overall pick marcus smart

i respect that you like wins even in a lost season but getting a top 5 pick makes much more sense. True the draft is a crapshoot but that doesnt change the fact that there are a few talented kids at the top
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2/9/2015  3:09 PM
There's no comparison. It's far better to bottom out than to be mediocre. This is the best chance we have to get an elite talent. No guarantees with anything. Look at Charlotte paying for Lance Stephenson and he flopped. Nothing you do is guaranteed to work, but you have to at least see the value in possibly adding a top talent to your team on a very affordable contract. This is a better route than what we've been doing. I'm willing to bet that any of the top 5 picks would start for the Knicks right now. I'll take that any day.
knicks1248
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2/9/2015  3:35 PM
nixluva wrote:There's no comparison. It's far better to bottom out than to be mediocre. This is the best chance we have to get an elite talent. No guarantees with anything. Look at Charlotte paying for Lance Stephenson and he flopped. Nothing you do is guaranteed to work, but you have to at least see the value in possibly adding a top talent to your team on a very affordable contract. This is a better route than what we've been doing. I'm willing to bet that any of the top 5 picks would start for the Knicks right now. I'll take that any day.

wiggens, parker dante exum, aaron gordon embiid, Stauskas randle,

These were the top draft picks last yr, guess where their teams are headed this yr, back to the lottery. Parker, embiid, and randle didn't play at all.

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2/9/2015  3:41 PM
thejerk wrote:I'm enjoying this rebuilding process. Thinking of all the new players that we might get is exciting. I know it's not right but I root for the Knicks to lose every game and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

You're definitely NOT the only one. +100000 from me.

mreinman
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2/9/2015  3:45 PM
nixluva wrote:There's no comparison. It's far better to bottom out than to be mediocre. This is the best chance we have to get an elite talent. No guarantees with anything. Look at Charlotte paying for Lance Stephenson and he flopped. Nothing you do is guaranteed to work, but you have to at least see the value in possibly adding a top talent to your team on a very affordable contract. This is a better route than what we've been doing. I'm willing to bet that any of the top 5 picks would start for the Knicks right now. I'll take that any day.

maybe for the draft but not for attracting FA's.

I think that it would be best if we lost while playing the right way and unselfish team basketball.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
nixluva
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2/9/2015  5:37 PM
mreinman wrote:
nixluva wrote:There's no comparison. It's far better to bottom out than to be mediocre. This is the best chance we have to get an elite talent. No guarantees with anything. Look at Charlotte paying for Lance Stephenson and he flopped. Nothing you do is guaranteed to work, but you have to at least see the value in possibly adding a top talent to your team on a very affordable contract. This is a better route than what we've been doing. I'm willing to bet that any of the top 5 picks would start for the Knicks right now. I'll take that any day.

maybe for the draft but not for attracting FA's.

I think that it would be best if we lost while playing the right way and unselfish team basketball.

We already know that top FA's are hard to pull away from their current teams. The other FA's are gonna go where the money is and if their team doesn't want to pay them they'll sign here. There are only a few teams with enough cap space to be a real buyer in FA this year. The Knicks will be one of those teams.

The Knicks haven't been tanking as much as trying to teach the team how to play the right way and losing cuz they're not good enough. This team is developing players and a new culture so the Knicks are finally doing it the right way.

knicks1248 wrote:wiggens, parker dante exum, aaron gordon embiid, Stauskas randle,
These were the top draft picks last yr, guess where their teams are headed this yr, back to the lottery. Parker, embiid, and randle didn't play at all.

1st of all you can't always measure a draft after one season. 2nd every draft is different. I've never been one to want to place all my eggs in the draft basket since it's so much of a crapshoot but in our case this is the one time where we have our pick and are losing big, while there are some really good players available. This isn't about just W/L's for next year. You need to get off of that as the premise for whether drafting someone this year is worth it. This is a process of rebuilding and it's not an instant Title team type of offseason.

Your way of thinking would suggest that GS didn't win when they drafted Steph and Klay. They most surely did win big with those drafted players. What if we end up with a similar result from the player we draft?

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2/9/2015  6:45 PM
I am shocked that Mark Jackson is not given credit for the success of Klay and Steph
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/9/2015  7:35 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I am shocked that Mark Jackson is not given credit for the success of Klay and Steph

who cares about mark jackson

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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2/9/2015  9:48 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I am shocked that Mark Jackson is not given credit for the success of Klay and Steph

Why would he get any credit when it's Kerr that took the team to the next level. The question you should he asking is why you think Mark Jackson should get credit for Steve Kerr's success. Golden States offense was not a top offense under Jackson. They played good D and that's about it.

Mark Jackson isn't a great coach. He's a good motivator until his jesus Jesus jesus spiel gets old.

mreinman
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2/9/2015  9:51 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I am shocked that Mark Jackson is not given credit for the success of Klay and Steph

Why would he get any credit when it's Kerr that took the team to the next level. The question you should he asking is why you think Mark Jackson should get credit for Steve Kerr's success. Golden States offense was not a top offense under Jackson. They played good D and that's about it.

Mark Jackson isn't a great coach. He's a good motivator until his jesus Jesus jesus spiel gets old.

Klay went from ok last year to off the charts. I am sure that he is not thanking Jackson for that.

the musical chairs offense.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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