TPercy wrote:

mreinman wrote:

TPercy wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Dagger wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Ah, typical board talk- blast a player while they're here, insist the have no value and be traded, then canonised them when they play well for their new team and make out we were dumb to trade them. Next up: Calderón!

Yup, and the same offenders will do it over and over and over again. Once a player joins the Knicks they magically become the most toxic thing ever and we'd be lucky to pair them with a first rounder just to get rid of said player. JR was far from a stud and I'm not even against the trade where we gave him up for nothing, but he's not the worst player in the league like all the drama queens would harp on about.

It's all about the system a player plays in, some posters feel like a player should fit into any system, Which is so far from reality it isn't even funny.

You put steph curry in this triangle non sense, and they'll be begging to trade him the hell out out of here. You look at a guy like Lance stephenson, he's game is not suited for the sht they run in Charlotte, it is what it is.

OK4 will be a disaster in the triangle, he needs shooters all around him, he's more suited for a MDA/GSW type system.

Nonsense, one of the big parts of the triangle is having a big man who can post up and have great passing ability which Okafor can certainly do

can he knock down the 15 footer with consistency out of the high post?

Hell no. I was watching this dude the other day he can't shoot and has other deficiencies too.(Towns fan) but I'm making a case that he does have a skill set that has potential to be good in the triangle.

triangle bigs need to be able to shoot to be effective

Smith admitted while here in New York he went out too much

Partied too hard and allowed the outside to distract him from basketball

He says in Cleveland it's so boring all you can do is play

Video Games and go to the gym to work on your game, there's nothing to do in Cleveland

I guess this is the gift and curse of the lifestyle in NYC

There are always off the court distractions from Digital to Sinful

J.R. partied on our watch and is a professional on Cavs watch[for now]

Cleveland probably could trade him right now and get back a better asset than a 2019 2nd

mreinman wrote:

TPercy wrote:

mreinman wrote:

TPercy wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Dagger wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Ah, typical board talk- blast a player while they're here, insist the have no value and be traded, then canonised them when they play well for their new team and make out we were dumb to trade them. Next up: Calderón!

Yup, and the same offenders will do it over and over and over again. Once a player joins the Knicks they magically become the most toxic thing ever and we'd be lucky to pair them with a first rounder just to get rid of said player. JR was far from a stud and I'm not even against the trade where we gave him up for nothing, but he's not the worst player in the league like all the drama queens would harp on about.

It's all about the system a player plays in, some posters feel like a player should fit into any system, Which is so far from reality it isn't even funny.

You put steph curry in this triangle non sense, and they'll be begging to trade him the hell out out of here. You look at a guy like Lance stephenson, he's game is not suited for the sht they run in Charlotte, it is what it is.

OK4 will be a disaster in the triangle, he needs shooters all around him, he's more suited for a MDA/GSW type system.

Nonsense, one of the big parts of the triangle is having a big man who can post up and have great passing ability which Okafor can certainly do

can he knock down the 15 footer with consistency out of the high post?

Hell no. I was watching this dude the other day he can't shoot and has other deficiencies too.(Towns fan) but I'm making a case that he does have a skill set that has potential to be good in the triangle.

triangle bigs need to be able to shoot to be effective

I agree that is why I said he had the potential to be good in the triangle, not great, not WILL be, but the potential to be good.

F500ONE wrote:During Bulls vs Cavs telecast reported from sideline[maybe Rachel Nichols]

Smith admitted while here in New York he went out too much

Partied too hard and allowed the outside to distract him from basketball

He says in Cleveland it's so boring all you can do is play

Video Games and go to the gym to work on your game, there's nothing to do in Cleveland

I guess this is the gift and curse of the lifestyle in NYC

There are always off the court distractions from Digital to Sinful

J.R. partied on our watch and is a professional on Cavs watch[for now]

Cleveland probably could trade him right now and get back a better asset than a 2019 2nd

How can you say they could get more? Based on your personal quest to claim your stake as the top "I TOLD YOU" guy?

JR said two years ago he was done with the party scene. Its the same crap with him.
No doubt the team is far more intense then the knicks and he can't be the clown anymore.

Jr and His video game can have fun in cleveland.

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:And Mozgov started at C and got 15 points and 15 rbs.
It's a little funny and sad that the Cavs new starting lineup, which finally has them winning, is using JR Smith and Mozgov to compliment their big 3.

You know how the game goes....One mans trash, is another mans treasure

Our problem for years, decades even has been fit- we seem to assemble rosters add hoc with parts that don't complement each other- it just makes players look worse.

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:And Mozgov started at C and got 15 points and 15 rbs.
It's a little funny and sad that the Cavs new starting lineup, which finally has them winning, is using JR Smith and Mozgov to compliment their big 3.

You know how the game goes....One mans trash, is another mans treasure

We always get trash that never was or ever will be a treasure here

smackeddog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:And Mozgov started at C and got 15 points and 15 rbs.
It's a little funny and sad that the Cavs new starting lineup, which finally has them winning, is using JR Smith and Mozgov to compliment their big 3.

You know how the game goes....One mans trash, is another mans treasure

Our problem for years, decades even has been fit- we seem to assemble rosters add hoc with parts that don't complement each other- it just makes players look worse.

I thought that started to change when guys like Duhon, Amare, Lin, and felton played lights out the 1st couple of months under MDA, that is until he ran them ragged for 44 minutes a night.

CA does have the better shot and more range over Lebron, however, when his shot is off, he will always try to shoot himself back in

Well when

Irving and MosGoV

or

Lebron/MoSgOv

run's the PnR together, which help defender is going to help?

Irving
JR Smith
Lebron
Love
MosGoV

Same as with Tyson's trade
We didn't have leverage as they both were consistently playing poor for us

So what they did after the trade is irrelevent because they would have continued to suck while on our roster, especially running a system that they couldn't execute as a whole together
That was why I was against JUST RUNNING The Triangle with this roster when they clearly were not getting it or had the skills/post presence/IQ needed to just run the triangle
It is what it is...

TPercy wrote:JR's play hasn't really changed he is still shooting a lot of 3s and a lot of them on certain days can be absolutely stupid shots, but his immense talent is being utlilized a lot by Cleveland.

He's better overall and you can tell on the other side of ball