F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Yeah, it depends on price. He's young enough that I'd gamble on him for a little less than the max.

Brandon Knight is a much better option

+1 - Knight should command a lesser deal and is better at defending the position. No denying his skills at the offensive end. He is extremely gifted, but he needs to improve defensively to warrant anywhere near the money he is going to get next year.

djsunyc wrote:we have witnessed only 2 teams in the past 30 years that used the triangle - lakers + bulls.

neither of them had a pg that did anything other than spot up and shoot. you would have to make him your secondary scorer next to melo and then fill the lineup out with 2 way players. but if you are expecting him to "run" the team, then dump the triangle.

BRIGGS wrote:The Knicks havent had a PG like Dragic since Walt Frazier. I bet he is #1 on the Knicks wishlist for what in the UFA category. Hes a big 1.5 who can do a lot of things hes in his prime years and I dont think hes the type who will be injured half his contract.

He needs to be #1 on our list. We need to offer him a huge contract for whatever it takes. I can see phil grabbing him first and picking up R Lopez to put next to Okafor or Towns. Would be a great offseason to begin with. Dragic is the real deal and would be a perfect fit in this offense and alongside Melo.

gunsnewing wrote:I would draft Ok4 or Towns and use our resources on guys like a big SG and a PF/C.

Guys like Matthews, Green, Butler and Milsap or Lopez/Biyombo maybe even Gasol depending on who we draft

We're not getting Butler or Gasol, I know it's cute to throw names around

But those are the ones not going anywhere

F500ONE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Yeah, it depends on price. He's young enough that I'd gamble on him for a little less than the max.

Brandon Knight is a much better option

+1 - Knight should command a lesser deal and is better at defending the position. No denying his skills at the offensive end. He is extremely gifted, but he needs to improve defensively to warrant anywhere near the money he is going to get next year.

Yea I much rather have Knight although I just don't see us going with a big name PG.

Is Galloway going to be PG or SG? I see no reason why he can't be Phil's quinntisential big lead guard at the point.

You think Knight is a bigger name than Dragic?

Or you feel Phil won't splash for a point guard in general?

Both are bigger names. So the latter. Phil's PG's don't make more than $4mil. Maybe Galloway is the guy

BRIGGS wrote:The Knicks havent had a PG like Dragic since Walt Frazier. I bet he is #1 on the Knicks wishlist for what in the UFA category. Hes a big 1.5 who can do a lot of things hes in his prime years and I dont think hes the type who will be injured half his contract.

Sure we did but idiot team traded him...Rod Strickland..Dragic isn't even close to Strickland...Michael Ray Richardson...Marbury...

gunsnewing wrote:I can see going after Lin who will make significantly less and using the resources elsewhere

From a cost perspective, I this would make sense and I agree that Phil may not spend at the position. However, his perimeter shooting and defensive ineptitude don't really make me think this is on the radar. Phil's PGs have historically defended the position pretty well if my memory serves me correctly.

djsunyc wrote:we have witnessed only 2 teams in the past 30 years that used the triangle - lakers + bulls.

neither of them had a pg that did anything other than spot up and shoot. you would have to make him your secondary scorer next to melo and then fill the lineup out with 2 way players. but if you are expecting him to "run" the team, then dump the triangle.

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no ball dominant PG of note. Fish-Kerr-Paxton-BJ-Craig hodges-randy brown-Lindsey hunter, Farmar- all 6 foot 2, not great ball handlers but very good outside shooters!
Also Trent Tucker, Ron Harper, Pete Myers, brian shaw, Isiah Rider, Mitch richmond, , Vujacic,

These are a good list of his SG's that got minutes and got rings not named Jordan, Pippen or Kobe. Some were at the tail end of their careers.

What Dragic does bring to the table is shooting and height.

Phil has a lot of slots to fill on the roster and if this guy is going to command 15mil and get it, Im not sure this would be a good use of money when so many other areas are needed.

Outside of Shaq, who is a top 5 center of all time, His centers like Longly, cartwright, wennington, bynum and pau were fundamentally sound on the offense side. On defense he had guys like corey blunt, Jason Caffey, Rodman, grant, to defend the rim and rebound.

Taking stabs at talent we see as potential FA's or Dleague guys is fun but just "get the best talent availble" without any rhyme or reason does not always make sense, we should at least consider what his template has been in the past. Some Dleaguers might be "I need to show my stuff NOW in the NBA, the clock is ticking on my career!!" not "That triangle takes two years to get right and unless I have a firm commitment, Im better going to another team". Best case is like Galloway where the team made a commitment to bring him along and if they are doing the triangle in westchester, practicing in westchester, and maybe practicing with the Knicks once in a while he got a good look.